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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:35:36 -0000 Den tisdag 16 juli 2019 02:34:02 CEST, Mark Linimon = skrev:=20 On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 05:44:32PM +0000, Mark Linimon wrote: > If enough people are interested, I can put together a page modeled on > this, and we can see where it goes from there. Turning the existing rpi table on the wiki on its side gives us the following prototype: =C2=A0 https://wiki.freebsd.org/MarkLinimon/WorkArea16 I'll add more information if people on this list a) think it's useful, b) will send me the data.=C2=A0 I am too overcommitted to gather it myself, but I can edit it. mcl _______________________________________________ freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" For the hobbyist user, your table is ok. The professional users (Build custom boards based around a SoC and custom F= reeBSD images based probably on stable) are interested in which SoC (bcm283= 7, AM335x, iMX6...), support for SPI (speed/mode), I2C, UART (Yes still usi= ng UARTS), GPIO, ADC, PWM, SD/emmc/flash/... USB, some are also intrested i= n LCD (16, 24bit, resolution), Touch interface. If drivers exists for the SoCs watchdog, RTC, DMA and so on. Of course its nice to have a fully functional eval card from the SoC vendor= for example=20 http://www.ti.com/tool/tmdsidk574 or http://www.ti.com/tool/tmdsevm572x at = the same time the Beagleboard X15 and Beaglebone AI is the same SoC family = and its cheaper and still do the job to provide initial development platfor= m before the custom boards are produced. And the professional users are still looking at the 32bit ARM due to $cost = and of course the 32bit is quite cooler than the 64 bit and can be cooled p= assive without fans when embedded. Other aspects are how long the SoC vendor "prommise" to produce their SoC f= amily. Of the RPi family the "most" interesting product are the compute module https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/compute-module-development-kit-2/ To get more manpower to the whole project i belive its cruciale to attract = the businesses to build solutions with the BSD code as the base of their pr= oducts. -- B=C3=A4sta H=C3=A4lsningar=20 Oskar Holmlund Tel 070-3220292