From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 11 04:47:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9D016A4CE for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 04:47:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [64.32.179.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9532B43D41 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 04:47:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ges+lists@wingfoot.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13861F4496; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (caduceus.wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44653-06; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-44c47f78.dyn.optonline.net [68.196.127.120]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFFC1F446C; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4119A4DA.1050700@wingfoot.org> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:47:22 -0400 From: Glenn Sieb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Thunderbird/0.7.1 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roman Neuhauser , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <1091989450.570.2.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20040808202351.GV87690@submonkey.net> <41168DF7.2090601@wingfoot.org> <4116906E.8060408@elvandar.org> <4116ED12.3000809@wingfoot.org> <20040810181651.GA4929@isis.wad.cz> <411916DB.3060307@wingfoot.org> <20040810192520.GB4929@isis.wad.cz> In-Reply-To: <20040810192520.GB4929@isis.wad.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at wingfoot.org Subject: Re: Questionable statement in article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 04:47:46 -0000 Roman Neuhauser said the following on 8/10/2004 3:25 PM: > I see you mix "in BSD" with "for BSD" as you see fit for your > argument. Yes, Apache *is* developed *in BSD*, besides other > operating systems (and *for* BSD, besides other operating systems). > > Not intentionally, Roman. Don't see attacks where there are none. I've said (repeatedly now) that I love the OS and have been using it since version 4.1. (Actually I think it was 4.1 beta) > Apache's AcceptFilter is AFAICT a FreeBSD-specific feature, which > would even make it fit your slightly shifted definition ("developed > *for* BSD). > > Cool.. I didn't know that! :) > But you're missing the fact that you're changing the playground in the > middle of the game. > > Again, as I've said, not intentionally. > Oh, here we're back at "develop in". You should have said in the > previous mail that you "don't see Oracle, Legato, or Veritas > development happening in BSD". Your previous statement implied much > broader scope. > > Yes, well. Thanks to Mercury being retrograde again. So let's put the knives down and discuss things that maybe we can do to help encourage vendors to make their software available for BSD. Personally, I think Oracle Collab Suite (as a prime example) would do amazingly well on a BSD platform. But of course, I'm a little biased that way :) Best, G.