From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 02:50:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486FC16A41F for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 02:50:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [216.148.227.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FE443D53 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 02:50:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from smogmonster.local (pcp0010916331pcs.albqrq01.nm.comcast.net[68.35.114.183]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005110202492401300egt7ve>; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 02:49:40 +0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:48:38 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <20051101220411.53839.qmail@web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4367EEB5.6050400@401.cx> In-Reply-To: <4367EEB5.6050400@401.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200511011948.51372.krinklyfig@comcast.net> Cc: stanb@panix.com, stheg olloydson Subject: Re: New Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 02:50:53 -0000 On Tue 1 Nov 05 15:39, "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" wrote: > stheg olloydson wrote: > > it was said by stanb: > >> YUK!!!!!!!!! > >> > >> -- > >> U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout > >> Despite Vietcong Terror > >> - New York Times 9/3/1967 > > > > Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out > > badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more. > > > > shudders, > > > > stheg > > Speak for yourself! > I had great expectations, and I'm very pleased to see the result. > Congratulations to core and the winner of the contest for a job > well done. > > 'Everyone' does not have a problem with FreeBSD trying to make > progress. I know a lot of people do, but far from everyone. Progress != a new logo. I am always happy to see FreeBSD make progress. I have no problem with the idea of a new logo, but my hopes were not high, given that it became a controversial subject. I wasn't going to say anything, but honestly, I don't like it that much. It looks a bit dated for an update, and it doesn't do well in black on white - the font is too thin (and way too art-deco/euro-like) and doesn't seem to have much to do with the "head" icon. In fact the head and wording seem as if they were put together as an afterthought. And what's with the sateen/silk background? Looks like a velvet painting, which is sorta groovy in a kitchy way, but I don't think that was the intention. I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, and it looks like some work went into it, but it's too trendy to be memorable and have staying power, and it's too far behind-the-curve to be trendy. It looks like it's trying too hard ... I dunno. Just that I get the feeling it will have to be updated soon to look "modern" again, and it might be better for FreeBSD to go with a more "classic" look that can withstand changes in trends. Some logos never have to be - and never should be - updated (again, I don't think this is one of them), and that's a better idea for the long run. Just MHO. - jt