From owner-freebsd-arch Mon Jan 20 14:20:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAF537B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6EA43F13 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:20:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (athlon.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.3]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0KMKSMW018885; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:20:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0KMKSZf000669; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:20:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0KMKSxm000668; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:20:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:20:27 -0800 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Nicolas Souchu Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbusifying kbd? Message-ID: <20030120222027.GA597@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20030119225129.A6948@armor.fastether> <20030119233031.GA24377@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030120074638.A11055@armor.fastether> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030120074638.A11055@armor.fastether> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 07:46:39AM +0100, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:30:31PM -0800, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:51:29PM +0100, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Has anyone already thought about newbusifying kbd? > > > > I've been playing with the scary thought of redoing syscons completely; > > whether rewriting or importing. It's not only kbd that needs > > newbusification and fb(4) is really full of ISA/BIOS stuff. > > Indeed. > > I'm currently working on KGI (http://www.kgi-project.org and > http://wwww.freebsd.org/~nsouch/ggiport.html) and try to port it to FreeBSD. > The console (graphic and input resources), focus management, and all this > kind of stuff are the suject of the KGI project. > > KGI already have its way to control inputs vs process/console focuses > independently from graphic drivers and any console implementation. > > Maybe we could look at it? I took a quick look at it. I'm not opposed to having graphics support in the kernel. The problem I think I see is that we probably have enough interest to make standard VGA work, but never really have the people or interest to keep up with the latest and greatest graphics engine. So, I think this would be useful only in a model where the graphics drivers are contributed and the X server makes use of it. So, if XFree86 changes to this model, then I see potential... -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message