From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 25 18:57:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5663515D423F for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netsecurity@sound-by-design.com) Received: from lhvm02.lizardhill.com (lhvm02.lizardhill.com [64.27.2.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC5457093B for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:57:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netsecurity@sound-by-design.com) Received: from [76.217.50.227] (helo=[192.168.2.4]) by lhvm02.lizardhill.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hfqdX-0005ow-1H; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:57:47 -0700 Subject: Re: I've got a major question... To: Alejandro Imass Cc: FreeBSD Questions References: From: Allen Schaaf Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:57:54 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 190625-2, 06/25/2019), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Authenticated-Id: netsecurity@sound-by-design.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: AC5457093B X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of netsecurity@sound-by-design.com designates 64.27.2.117 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=netsecurity@sound-by-design.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.83 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[13]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.sound-by-design.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35916, ipnet:64.27.0.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.62)[0.625,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sound-by-design.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.90)[0.904,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.97)[0.966,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[117.2.27.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; IP_SCORE(0.65)[asn: 35916(3.30), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:57:57 -0000 Hi Alex, The credit union is located in Richmond CA, USA. I can't use the organization's e-mail because we don't have a system where board members have accounts. Currently only the CEO/Manage and the assistant manager have e-mail addresses. The cost of the current system is a bit much. One of the things I want to do is use Thunderbird - or a better alternative - for e-mail for both the staff and the board. This needs to be done once we either move to Windows 10 or a FreeBSD system. We don't even have a web site yet though that is in the process of being created once I can get the board to approve it. We do have a domain name, myavcu.org: Raw WHOIS Record Domain Name: MYAVCU.ORG Registry Domain ID: D402200000004219824-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.publicdomainregistry.com Registrar URL: http://www.publicdomainregistry.com Updated Date: 2018-01-17T03:47:55Z Creation Date: 2017-11-17T04:35:29Z Registry Expiry Date: 2022-11-17T04:35:29Z It is currently "hosted" at Lizardhill.com. It has been a hell of a process to getting things moved from the old way of doing things. We just celebrated our 60th year and the current CEO/Manager, Cecilia Heredia-Rocha, has been there for 20 years and learned to do things based on the old ways. She is working to move forward but it is a complicated process what with being of a size that mostly just gets sold off to one of the big credit unions, and they have no real interest in helping the lower income people. Running any financial banking system is a bit more complex than we think, primarily because we have to meet auditing requirements. What we do is almost totally local desktops and printers, plus paper copies of things for monitoring various things. The paper copies are simply local copies of data that is stored externally. The auditing requirements as to how to do things is more complex than a small banking system can do totally in-house. All of our primary record keeping is done on external systems. the two biggest ones are the corporate credit union Catalyst: https://www.catalystcorp.org/ and the other one on the financial end that we refer to as Mercury Mod, a company based in Silicon Valley - I don't have their correct name so I can't provide a link. the next major outside service is ADP for our payroll and help with human resources. To show you how slow the process of change is, ADP has been used less than 6 months. Everything was done with hand written time sheets and spreadsheet calculations and a lot of sloppiness. I'm sure the external systems are on mainframe, possibly ERPs as well, but nothing we have in-house is either. I hope this has answered your questions in sufficient detail.Best, Allen On 6/25/2019 8:11 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 2:35 PM Allen Schaaf > > wrote: > > Hi, whomever you'll are, > > I've got a major question. I'm the President of the Board of > Directors of a very small credit union, it's certified to help > the lower income people, as well as being their tech support > > > 1) Where is the Credit Union located? > 2) Why don't you use your organization's email? > 3) You make it sound as if running a credit union is about > desktops and utility programs, but where are the core systems > running? How do you manage the accounting for example? (i.e. do > you use an ERP or Mainframe-based systems?). > > I am sure you could arouse the interest of companies like ours > if there is a business case to develop a full open source > solution for small credit unions but your email sounds like > phishing. If you are serious about this provide all the info so > interested professionals and contractors can provide a more > formal assessment. > > Best, > Alex > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus