From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 00:39:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99C51065677 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordan.head@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D528FC2D for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordan.head@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so3619206rvb.43 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:39:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=jGgYmJxbQXun0hKJZgPq1dkRb9fRNePab1WX/+Azt0E=; b=iXBLgaU2ieu5sZjIrxtHDjESDNFX5AN9dvtjUCgh+LROLsI/djkr8cKM13I5g9+IEHUT3GOH+Q4fBFCIlG2tSllcKixG9iFT+F6xsJ5qgg5AubsTK29MOB/tj+F6Menuf+atPNSRW5fqibsNeDI2kbO6Dg/PVU2zn/pFY53Owsg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ENMBiHJPMdmKkAdD/keTfBJcZgQV7Mle/SE+bzG7zZvcGvlelhy3llhgobc/hajLIrrNFLRvJQUW6HcdncrHsym22o/ZKQZny0/DRDhT8/6pfoTX/OWXfVZV14HSZjTcUMw8w3bP7Vymwe77SMul9gtuH+G8zRy3K4YaOKbIfy4= Received: by 10.140.133.11 with SMTP id g11mr7322741rvd.235.1204416785341; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.132.9 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:13:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <507ca65b0803011613j2f6efa28k8621015b42fa2ed8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:13:05 -0500 From: "Jordan Head" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: nVidia nForce Network Controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:39:27 -0000 Hey I have an MSI motherboard with an onboard nvidia network adapter, with this specific computer my Linux ventures in the past failed when it came to the internet. Thanks Jordan Head From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 00:41:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8501C106567A for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4CE8FC2D for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m220fQeL092256 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:41:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org.mailing.list Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:41:25 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080301021803.GA26930@thought.org> <200803011336.57193.kline@thought.org> <47C9D2E1.9010306@passagen.se> In-Reply-To: <47C9D2E1.9010306@passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803011641.25757.kline@thought.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: Re: rsync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:41:31 -0000 On Saturday 01 March 2008 14:04:17 Roger Olofsson wrote: > Gary Kline skrev: > > On Friday 29 February 2008 19:25:50 Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > >> On 18:18:06 Feb 29, Gary Kline wrote: > >>> Is there a flag I can set to use with rsync to backup every file of > >>> /usr/home/* [here on my FBSD desktop] to my Ubuntu desktop that has > >>> only /home/*?? > >>> > >>> Of course, I could always create /usr/home on my other computers. ... > >> > >> Your question is not clear to me. > >> > >> I use > >> > >> $ rsync -avzp --delete /usr/home/* /home > >> > >> if that is what you are looking for. > > > > What does the "--delete" do?! I want to make a complete copy of, say, > > /usr/home/kline/* from here [tao] to my Ubuntu server, ethos, which has > > a "/home" mountpoint--- in otheer words: /home/kline/*. If the > > "--delete /usr/home* /home" syntax will let rsync rewrite /usr/home to > > /home, then fine. > > > > gary > > > >> -Girish > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --delete makes sure that if you delete a file on the source, it's also > deleted on the mirror. > > (Tip for those that use rsync to backup Windows machines to FreeBSD - > You will most likely have to use --ignore-errors if you are syncing > to/from windows machines with --delete.) > > Just my nickels worth. > > /R Good point. Because in addition to copying files across flavors of 'Nix, I do want to delete the old changes. Especially as my projects evolve. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 00:50:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2C2106567A for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2EB8FC1C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so1240394uge.37 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:50:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=C11oGLRBSUH/oVeywcBylnxXUYxjPbGZuOGYITbPY20=; b=pVc4pnTGq4RPxp+u/WYEM7+gjJREAiwyck2eOTFh3diZeAyGZI/x8D2dUZqcO3Es3S5sBM4lxuQK9h7JR6QLoNhfArh8yX0/3m4jnNom96n4Nbong5SwKPDMuX9W2KQAvwuXMi6FYROF1EMimTVPX6AtqiCI9WMgCMj6gpk8vHc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e/bWeCIrQ7/52dtl39nmwAmeQdIE+VarB0Dk5ODf9IARFkU3eb6PZWgblRr4MGtK5ike7VOa3P7OLkY3nIqT5TGdGt/EZ6+Z/1jGwDXrMyEJqC+DpYy4KVXJmjKOkY8TcyQ3ZLCqGd1r5yTla8jpSWMFeD4B1ozO3ktxYdCBP2o= Received: by 10.78.204.7 with SMTP id b7mr13462650hug.38.1204419046214; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.156.2 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:50:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7daacbbe0803011650j30e6278fn50b5a5524e91fccd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:50:46 +0100 From: "Dominique Goncalves" To: jhall@vandaliamo.net In-Reply-To: <49540.65.117.48.155.1204406604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49540.65.117.48.155.1204406604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting from Memory Stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:50:48 -0000 Hi, On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM, wrote: > I am working on getting a FreeBSD system to boot from a USB memory stick. > > Would it be possible to install the operating system using the following: > > cd /usr/src > make DESTDIR=/mnt/usbdisk world > boot0cfg -v -B -o noupdate da0 > > Or, is there an easier way to do this? Yes, the freesbie2 toolkit (http://www.freesbie.org/) does the job very well. Hope this helps. > Thanks, > > > Jay > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Regards. -- There's this old saying: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 01:12:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D08106566C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC9D8FC19 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m221CWS9087428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:12:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <47A3C37B.10707@tundraware.com> From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: So How Hard Is Moving From 6.3 To 7.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:12:36 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:12:27 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:12:36 -0000 I have a stable 6.3 production server. If I buildworld/kernel for 7.0, install them, and reboot, will everything pretty much work the same as it did under 6.3, or have file locations, userland configuration, etc. changed? Will my 6.3 binaries run unchanged on 7.0 as well? TIA, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 01:27:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED371065670 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:27:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5D28FC1C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n40so2621853gve.39 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:27:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=OHrjG8C6nNE0eYN1ATvp0UF3iRAyxO5pI5BpyPxX2Eo=; b=QEyAOZZJDxtbUOL33eH0VCETfJX6HUJWp0vlqnqjhkNJn1N7+G4MX/VxaXM5QWKe1UP64Tg2cuBqJ3bN2USkgxI1jDi3QTrka6Hls2eFCxjeneHWf7jqThwM61jFS6j20/MYTj3+xliRligUWxx94xLSXF1SB9LWels7RVaGFGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=rvPLQxXQyY7dBD5XuQIyGC4CGw55FmWnLJhv5z4nAa9C/rohFoGOKlbsiaT1G3mdlSGldRSI4ayJ8f74cEITwp/L9ezLHJkXomsgdS3VyM33vyLG3jmbX+zz8vogoPJlFwAMfivb5qOO9Mo3G6xuLfpAvGIXGwdl6eb9hsVxTww= Received: by 10.115.15.1 with SMTP id s1mr3302245wai.0.1204421234174; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.madambakam.org ( [59.92.50.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j6sm22460785wah.6.2008.03.01.17.27.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.madambakam.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id A2A6239FF5C; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:57:07 +0530 (IST) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:57:07 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080302012707.GA30006@saraswathy.madambakam.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080301021803.GA26930@thought.org> <20080301032550.GA15588@saraswathy.madambakam.org> <200803011336.57193.kline@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803011336.57193.kline@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Re: rsync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:27:17 -0000 On 13:36:56 Mar 01, Gary Kline wrote: > What does the "--delete" do?! I want to make a complete copy of, say, > /usr/home/kline/* from here [tao] to my Ubuntu server, ethos, which has > a "/home" mountpoint--- in otheer words: /home/kline/*. If the > "--delete /usr/home* /home" syntax will let rsync rewrite /usr/home to /home, > then fine. I started using rsync with -avzp but then realized that it would not delete the directories/files I deleted at the source *after* the backup. That is why I added the --delete hoping that it would replicate in such a way that both copies look identical. -Girish -- "unix soi qui mal y pense" UNIX to him who evil thinks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 01:45:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1651065672 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from farris.bafirst.com (adsl-074-165-190-154.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [74.165.190.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3F18FC13 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from HOME.encontacto.net ([189.129.17.152]) by farris.bafirst.com with esmtp; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:45:15 -0600 id 0006D416.47CA06AB.0000FE06 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by HOME.encontacto.net with local; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:45:14 -0600 id 0004AC19.47CA06AA.0000534C Received: from 172.16.0.2 ([172.16.0.2]) by intranet.encontacto.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:45:14 -0600 Message-ID: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:45:14 -0600 From: eculp To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) Subject: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:45:18 -0000 I have installed freebsd server in a small company that has approx 30 =20 pc's of all sizes, shapes, brands, etc. They have just realized that =20 a large part of the problems that they had before the firewall was =20 caused by the 30 windows pc's that were connected directly to the =20 ISP's wireless router. They would like to change the PC's to unix =20 desktops. I would like to install FreeBSD or any other bsd but don't feel that =20 we have the drivers available to substitute such a wide variety of =20 hardware. I would love to be proven wrong. Therefore I am =20 considering a linux version with a graphic installer that will make it =20 easier to train someone to install on any new machines that they add =20 later. My problem is that I haven't done a linux install since before =20 FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would be the most =20 versatile and has an installer that is basically brain dead simple =20 with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the impossible but =20 you never know. I'm sure that I'm not the only person to run into this situation and I =20 would sure appreciate any suggestions. Thanks, ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 02:00:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B283106566B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE3F8FC1C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n40so2635719gve.39 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:00:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=l54WBLD29m5d+XtKchCQBC0CyATYYJvuu2kNtkZDZe8=; b=Nz+O5Lu9Orjkj4urgndDFVVRhaLrMqx856WqUA9NrWYq/hWAhZ4R8lo7JCs6iMUe6QKg1JrYHIYAZrcM8KiAIw0XmILjJ+5N3h0IiOCba4XXzJMvrvOnGEGiZyIJVn+GpNAelbu3OhFNlqlr697aJTYsz+evhnlt6mSAqUNWkpQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PUF61hM0DCNcFfZ2S4Qg1QmZcflGm1d4QxVOAznijxaFbk7XNJu4KSBNfwjIlqUERR1cbHyz9dRhIuAXoFd4/36ju6YC5qvxSy8x6DqZzfQQ0n5L/RXJCIScD54S1mNeG5pobBF31VFd4/uw/KbcNxA/QXK1SjF/3pwz6KO/u4U= Received: by 10.115.94.1 with SMTP id w1mr3690475wal.85.1204423232031; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.13.16 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:00:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8d23ec860803011800q21947eeejffb0f7cb847d93e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 21:00:32 -0500 From: Schiz0 To: eculp In-Reply-To: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:00:35 -0000 On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 8:45 PM, eculp wrote: > I have installed freebsd server in a small company that has approx 30 > pc's of all sizes, shapes, brands, etc. They have just realized that > a large part of the problems that they had before the firewall was > caused by the 30 windows pc's that were connected directly to the > ISP's wireless router. They would like to change the PC's to unix > desktops. > > I would like to install FreeBSD or any other bsd but don't feel that > we have the drivers available to substitute such a wide variety of > hardware. I would love to be proven wrong. Therefore I am > considering a linux version with a graphic installer that will make it > easier to train someone to install on any new machines that they add > later. My problem is that I haven't done a linux install since before > FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would be the most > versatile and has an installer that is basically brain dead simple > with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the impossible but > you never know. > > I'm sure that I'm not the only person to run into this situation and I > would sure appreciate any suggestions. > > Thanks, > > ed Ubuntu Linux. It's very windows-users friendly, and has a graphical installer. It's based on Debian Linux. It also is a LiveCD, so you can test hardware before actually installing it to the HDD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 02:21:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA813106566C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D1E8FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m222Kmcc022089; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 20:20:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080301201509.024b8c60@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:20:37 -0600 To: tundra@tundraware.com, FreeBSD Mailing List From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <47A3C37B.10707@tundraware.com> References: <47A3C37B.10707@tundraware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: So How Hard Is Moving From 6.3 To 7.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:21:16 -0000 At 07:12 PM 2/1/2008, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >I have a stable 6.3 production server. If I buildworld/kernel for 7.0, >install them, and reboot, will everything pretty much work the same as >it did under 6.3, or have file locations, userland configuration, etc. >changed? Will my 6.3 binaries run unchanged on 7.0 as well? > >TIA, >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com >PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ Tim, I am still working on my first server migration. I followed the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING, but still had problems. I also did a portupgrade -faP to make the ports as per the release notes. Unfortunately not all worked after that. I had issues with apache22 and clamav, so I rebuilt and reinstalled both of those ports. I still don't have xorg and gnome working. So needless to say this is a much longer update process than previous versions. I did NOT try the binary update from CD or the new binary update utility. I believe most of the issues I have had are because of changes in the libraries specifically to the threads. Oh, I started my update on Friday Morning. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 02:56:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49E7106566C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zflyer@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9154E8FC18 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zflyer@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so874598wra.13 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:56:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=E2AimmMbEfUtmQU7zwIbuyB+y3U/CQ9XXgCf0IzdpfA=; b=vuMxFFa4CjxzaVZN+P80dhbQsO0GHflQbGQI58DpJ1TVaVOFh6PQprmlgTB8DWxtHZOciKlxphdb+lq6pUTnli3MohWKMxE2peOTgn9W0K3ZpNHXfpNojnnkuW8Up//mU85PleQ86u/i3aUrq328B2IiCm2pSdu5wVrR+9+kOW4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=bbdotPm+2imC6/BmWinTNkmyhn2UMSgZpsJsKQf4Fub7OplbLdgEDUMCSt69lBNy+GDyEb8qImMuNCLV/ypqdRhggXhP4Trnzbv7FO0eiaKaCt3VLf1uSuskgT/SipZYTXHM5qQs5/jJ7j1Z0GFpyoFnFe4IEo8zBWMRR0BqvMg= Received: by 10.100.41.16 with SMTP id o16mr19020633ano.1.1204424969135; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:29:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.31.20 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:29:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6293ba970803011829u77bf6191i446a958527e014ea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 21:29:29 -0500 From: Walker To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: 7.0 and fsck question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:56:19 -0000 Today I lost power and my FreeBSD 7.0-R server came up with all partitions "not properly dismounted". I was watching the fsck reports to syslog and noticed there wasn't one for the root partition. Why is this? No syslogd running at the point when fsck runs on /? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 02:58:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B121065672 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EBA8FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JVePc-0006jx-Be for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:58:53 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JVePK-0006je-FJ; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:58:34 -0700 Message-ID: <47CA17D6.9010905@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:58:30 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eculp References: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> In-Reply-To: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:58:53 -0000 eculp wrote: > I have installed freebsd server in a small company that has approx 30 > pc's of all sizes, shapes, brands, etc. They have just realized that > a large part of the problems that they had before the firewall was > caused by the 30 windows pc's that were connected directly to the > ISP's wireless router. They would like to change the PC's to unix > desktops. > > I would like to install FreeBSD or any other bsd but don't feel that > we have the drivers available to substitute such a wide variety of > hardware. I would love to be proven wrong. Therefore I am > considering a linux version with a graphic installer that will make it > easier to train someone to install on any new machines that they add > later. My problem is that I haven't done a linux install since before > FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would be the most > versatile and has an installer that is basically brain dead simple > with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the impossible but > you never know. > > I'm sure that I'm not the only person to run into this situation and I > would sure appreciate any suggestions. > > Thanks, > > ed > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" PC-BSD would be a good choice but stay away from PBI. You may try also DesktopBSD, TrueBSD, or RoFreeSBIE. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 03:11:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B661065672 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DBB8FC1F for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.3.245] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m223B5Zl010820; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:11:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:11:04 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <49540.65.117.48.155.1204406604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> In-Reply-To: <49540.65.117.48.155.1204406604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803012211.04629.john@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: jhall@vandaliamo.net Subject: Re: Booting from Memory Stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:11:08 -0000 On Saturday 01 March 2008 04:23:24 pm jhall@vandaliamo.net wrote: > I am working on getting a FreeBSD system to boot from a USB memory > stick. > > Would it be possible to install the operating system using the > following: > > cd /usr/src > make DESTDIR=/mnt/usbdisk world > boot0cfg -v -B -o noupdate da0 > > Or, is there an easier way to do this? I know you've gotten some other responses, but I wanted to chime in and say that I've done this (just today, actually) using an approach similar to what you're outlining. In a nutshell: (assuming USB stick is da0, you don't care about what's on it, and you want to use the whole thing with one partition and no swap) ##prepare the destination disk, including boot blocks, and mount fdisk -BI /dev/da0 #ignore the GEOM not found message bsdlabel -wB /dev/da0s1 newfs -U -L mystick /dev/da0s1a #optional flags for softupdates and label mount /dev/ufs/mystick /mnt ##prepare obj tree (skip if you already have one with the kernel you want) cd /usr/src make buildworld make KERNCONF=MYUSBKERNEL #or GENERIC, whatever ##install to the stick cd /usr/src make KERNCONF=MYUSBKERNEL DESTDIR=/mnt installkernel make DESTDIR=/mnt installworld mergemaster -i -D /mnt #review list, answer yes to followup ?'s ##The only other thing that's required is an fstab file: echo "/dev/ufs/mystick / ufs rw 1 1" >> /mnt/etc/fstab ##and don't forget to un-mount the stick when you're done umount /mnt That's a bit quick and dirty, obviously, but you can boot from the stick and have a complete system at this point. Setup of the root password, users, groups, hostname, interfaces, timezone, etc not included. Sysinstall or manual config (either from the initial host or after booting from the stick) can get you the rest of the way. Or you may discover that one of the other approaches suggested is easier. :) JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 03:38:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306D6106566C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comperr@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0708.google.com (wr-out-0708.google.com [64.233.184.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8428FC1B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comperr@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b72so5240506wra.7 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:38:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.136.15 with SMTP id j15mr962080and.21.1204428497573; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:28:17 -0800 (PST) X-IP: 24.45.43.202 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) Gecko/20070515 Firefox/2.0.0.4, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) From: comperr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: HDD missing from sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:38:44 -0000 When I put in my fbsd 6.3 or 7.0 install disk sysinstall is unable to detect any of the hard drives in my computer. This is includes SATA and IDE HDDs in varying orders. BIOS is able to detect the the hard drives. I Previously had fbsd 6.2 installed on them and the problem started when I upgraded the kernel to 6.3 although I don't see my upgrades relevance as I have tried to reinstall from a clean disk since then. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 03:40:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E90106567C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@it.dk) Received: from dansknet.dk (smtp1.dansknet.dk [85.233.229.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41D488FC1D for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@it.dk) Received: (qmail 6188 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2008 03:57:38 -0000 Received: from 85233228239.switch.dansknet.dk (HELO workp4) (85.233.228.239) by dansknet.dk with SMTP; 2 Mar 2008 03:57:38 -0000 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 04:13:21 +0100 From: Rico Secada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080302041321.774bc502.coolzone@it.dk> In-Reply-To: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> References: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.3.0beta5 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:40:11 -0000 On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:45:14 -0600 eculp wrote: > I have installed freebsd server in a small company that has approx > 30 pc's of all sizes, shapes, brands, etc. They have just realized > that a large part of the problems that they had before the firewall > was caused by the 30 windows pc's that were connected directly to > the ISP's wireless router. They would like to change the PC's to > unix desktops. > > I would like to install FreeBSD or any other bsd but don't feel that > we have the drivers available to substitute such a wide variety of > hardware. I would love to be proven wrong. Therefore I am > considering a linux version with a graphic installer that will make > it easier to train someone to install on any new machines that they > add later. My problem is that I haven't done a linux install since > before FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would be the > most versatile and has an installer that is basically brain dead > simple with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the > impossible but you never know. > > I'm sure that I'm not the only person to run into this situation and > I would sure appreciate any suggestions. In my experience from similar situations I would recommend OpenSUSE from Novell, since it has to be as windows "like" as possible. OpenSUSE is very well supported and since it is Novell who is behind the distro, the company can provide professional support. In general I recommend Debian over any distro, but in some rare cases like this one, I would rather recommend OpenSUSE. > Thanks, > > ed > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 04:25:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8BA106566B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 04:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from nlpi001.prodigy.net (nlpi001.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BBC8FC1C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 04:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) X-ORBL: [76.238.148.150] Received: from Leticia-B-Desrochers-Computer.local (adsl-76-238-148-150.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [76.238.148.150]) by nlpi001.prodigy.net (8.13.8 out.dk.spool/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m224Pu67001955 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:25:57 -0600 Message-ID: <47CA2C53.8050209@chrismaness.com> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:25:55 -0800 From: Chris Maness User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd-update and mergemaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:25:59 -0000 I was wondering if it was possible to use mergemaster with the binary update tool. It seemed like a much better way than freebsd-update dumping me into vi. I don't understand what it wants me to do with vi. Mergemaster is very clear. Can someone please shed light. Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 05:01:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96230106566C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from fear.mtmary.edu (rrcs-74-62-87-82.west.biz.rr.com [74.62.87.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B818FC1E for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from webmail.mtmary.edu (avarice.mtmary.edu [172.16.0.207]) by fear.mtmary.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840DA50D540; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:31:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from 218.185.52.132 (SquirrelMail authenticated user clarkp) by webmail.mtmary.edu with HTTP; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:31:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <39632.218.185.52.132.1204432269.squirrel@webmail.mtmary.edu> In-Reply-To: <47c9e1a1.c98z3hRYgXce6kBO%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <47c9e1a1.c98z3hRYgXce6kBO%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:31:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Peter Clark" To: perryh@pluto.rain.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dependencies in portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:01:15 -0000 > I am trying to figure out what-all would happen if I were to install > a particular port. IOW I want to do something like > > # portmaster {some set of options} name-of-port > > and have it report something along the lines of > > name-of-port vn #.## requires: > port status > ---- ------ > dependency-1 OK > dependency-2 need vn 2.22, current 1.05 > dependency-3 not installed > ... > > dependency-2 vn 2.22 requires: > port status > ---- ------ > dependency-4 OK > dependency-5 need vn 5.03, current 4.57 > ... > > dependency-3 vn #.## requires: > port status > ---- ------ > dependency-6 not installed > > ... > > I do not want it to actually build or install anything. > > If I am understanding the portmaster manpage correctly this is close > to what -n would do, but I don't even want it to do 'make config' -- > I just want a report of what would have to be added or upgraded in > order to install the port in question. (I imagine portmaster has > to already be collecting this sort of information internally, the > question is how to get it reported externally.) > > BTW I am looking for a solution that does not involve portupgrade, > because I do not have portupgrade installed and before attempting > to install it I would want to see this sort of report regarding it. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If you truly are just looking at the dependency list and do not wish to have make do anything, wouldn't this do the trick: http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portdependencytree.py I guess you would need to have an up to date ports tree for this to be accurate. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 05:07:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8571065672 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comperr@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0708.google.com (wr-out-0708.google.com [64.233.184.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232068FC14 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comperr@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b72so5289599wra.7 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:07:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 21:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.136.15 with SMTP id j15mr963501and.21.1204434459248; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:07:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 24.45.43.202 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) Gecko/20070515 Firefox/2.0.0.4, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) From: comperr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: HDD missing from sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:07:40 -0000 Just to add I am using an MSI P6N SLI plat. motherboard On Mar 1, 10:28 pm, comperr wrote: > When I put in my fbsd 6.3 or 7.0 install disk sysinstall is unable to > detect any of the hard drives in my computer. > > This is includes SATA and IDE HDDs in varying orders. BIOS is able > to detect the the hard drives. I Previously had fbsd 6.2 installed > on them and the problem started when I upgraded the kernel to 6.3 > although I don't see my upgrades relevance as I have tried to > reinstall from a clean disk since then. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org mailing listhttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 05:10:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D90E106566B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63D78FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F094C50916 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:10:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dt7z71G5JMGo for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:10:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C576550901; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:10:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080302051003.C576550901@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:10:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-02-10 - 2008-03-01 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:10:10 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 05:16:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1587B106566C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.todd@internet.co.nz) Received: from stewie.iconz.co.nz (etrn.iconz.co.nz [210.48.22.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1EF8FC1C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.todd@internet.co.nz) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by stewie.iconz.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94F62B008A for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:16:13 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from stewie.iconz.co.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (stewie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28449-18 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:16:11 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ip-210-185-11-153.internet.co.nz [210.185.11.153]) by stewie.iconz.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28212B0085 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:16:11 +1300 (NZDT) From: Glenn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1204410553.3211.15.camel@Hawk.internet.co.nz> References: <1204410553.3211.15.camel@Hawk.internet.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:12:05 +0000 Message-Id: <1204481525.1008.7.camel@Hawk.internet.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (ICONZ) at stewie.iconz.co.nz Subject: Re: ndis0 panic when ifconfig inet IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:16:19 -0000 Update: I wasn't able to solve the problem so resorted to installing FreeBSD 6.3 instead, and got the wireless working without any difficulty. I guess that some of the ndis kernel code has been changed in 7.0 that is causing my system to panic. Glenn > I have just upgraded my Asus A2 notebook from 6.1 to FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE > #0 by doing a full clean install. (completely repartitioned my disc > prior to installing) > > This notebook uses the Broadcom bcmwl5 wireless drivers which worked > faultlessly using ndis on 6.1 > > I can kldload ndis and driver bcmwl5_sys without a problem. > > However the system panics anytime that I try to config the ip address > either through rc.conf or directly e.g. ifconfig ndis inet 192.168.0.5 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > Got the error on the GENERIC kernel plus my own built kernel > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 > fault virtual address = 0x0 > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instructor pointer = 0x20:0xc0a464f8 > stack pointer = 0x28:0xcbfd8b04 > frame pointer = 0x28:0xcbfd8b3c > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0xib > = DPL0, pres 1 def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 994 (ndis0 taskq) > trap number = 12 > > Any idea what the problem may be? > > Glenn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 05:40:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADC4106566B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-11.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-11.bluehost.com [69.89.18.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F27958FC18 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 32614 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2008 05:39:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2008 05:39:59 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JVgvX-0003ur-Kj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:39:59 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:39:59 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:39:59 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080302053959.GB38596@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> <1203647649.4297.19.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be4e2b.vQK8DB3ioXE6GzW+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1203655600.4297.36.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be5fb2.jZZIZJkadZ96YrS7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1203659785.4297.38.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be8013.1vzfbmuRdzsgw+40%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1203672364.5367.5.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47BEDDA5.9010504@chessgriffin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47BEDDA5.9010504@chessgriffin.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:40:01 -0000 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 09:35:17AM -0500, Chess Griffin wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > >On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 23:56 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > >>>>You need something that costs too much, breaks down a lot, > >>>>and never uses standard parts if they can help it. > >>>Mercedes? :) > >>Fits the first, dunno about the third. Certainly not the second -- > >>Benz are some of the best-engineered and built cars in existence. > >> > >>Maybe BMW, aka Bunch-a Money Wasted or Bite My Wallet. > > > >I wouldn't insult a quality car like that. Ive heard nothing but good > >stories about them and it's something I'd buy myself. Very safe to > >drive... > > > >Ok. How about the new VW beetle? I've heard they're crap- not as good as > >the original, expensive, poorly designed, break down a lot, and driven > >by little teeny boppers with money to waste buying just for the frilly > >stuff. Does that fit the bill? > > > >We'll take a vote- all in favor say aye... :P > > Might I suggest a 1983 Renault Alliance? The first car I ever owned and > it was ... what's the word I'm looking for ... ah yes: horrible! i > would have traded it for a VW Beetle any day. :-) Actually (a bit late) . . . if you want something that costs too much, breaks down a lot, and never uses standard parts, you're looking for a Jaguar circa 1990 or earlier. I'm not sure about after that. They sure do look nice (Aero Glass), but there are better-looking cars out there that don't break down all the time (like Aqua and Compiz Fusion), and some of them even cost less. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Isaac Asimov: "Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is completely programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 05:48:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018201065674 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenp_89@yahoo.com) Received: from n3.bullet.mail.re4.yahoo.com (n3.bullet.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.56.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A75638FC1D for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenp_89@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.230.28] by n3.bullet.re4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2008 05:34:39 -0000 Received: from [69.147.75.182] by t1.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2008 05:34:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp103.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2008 05:34:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 342771.94926.bm@omp103.mail.re1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 25702 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Mar 2008 05:34:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=0MQQDk/9H+5IQ/MY7vPl4phAXx6xfV7wtOkE1QTorcQoEfccwDq1hSEBU4/BJTm0rA563rv5tTVHNpHUQA2b2t/HakVxSBRpqIHoCdHc+G6ldUx8Vx7zQyzJUGxVZyOugcZt1b3QmFK33UM0tl7VDc8miDmBjrnqXxxust9XjzE=; X-YMail-OSG: Ped_MAYVM1lltMA0PU1_Be2LdMGETAfL39oAHQbxDaQRQSFeEZaFEGSJXwzMnYEe28H98coFIPXkV4bclxJEuwqtfqIzVi27W4fje94O91J0e2aONGN8Q1mYNS9uBn1W Received: from [71.215.255.38] by web57315.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:34:39 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 21:34:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Peck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <265774.25483.qm@web57315.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Subject: Internet connection errors on 7.0-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kenp_89@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:48:31 -0000 Hello, fellow FreeBSD'ers, I just yesterday did a source upgrade from 6.3-STABLE to 7.0-STABLE, but am now having problems getting back online. I am certain this is kernel-related, as I have Internet access through a backup copy of my 6.3 kernel, and all my other computers work fine as well. Here is the output of uname -a FreeBSD ostrich.brgr.ksd 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #9: Sat Mar 1 22:32:48 CST 2008 root@ostrich.brgr.ksd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EMU amd64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ and the output of dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #9: Sat Mar 1 22:32:48 CST 2008 root@ostrich.brgr.ksd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EMU Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (2004.19-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x40fb2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x2001 AMD Features=0xea500800 AMD Features2=0x1f Cores per package: 2 usable memory = 493142016 (470 MB) avail memory = 474247168 (452 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 1deb0000, 50000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 1ddb0000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfefff000-0xfefff3ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 25000000 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 powernow0: on cpu0 device_attach: powernow0 attach returned 6 cpu1: on acpi0 powernow1: on cpu1 device_attach: powernow1 attach returned 6 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.5 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.6 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.7 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 vgapci0: mem 0xfc000000-0xfcffffff,0xd0000000-0xdffffff f,0xfb000000-0xfbffffff irq 16 at device 5.0 on pci0 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 10.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 10.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 10.2 (no driver attached) ohci0: mem 0xfe02f000-0xfe02ffff irq 21 at devic e 11.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ohci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfe02e000-0xfe02e0ff irq 22 at d evice 11.1 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb1: EHCI version 1.0 usb1: companion controller, 8 ports each: usb0 usb1: on ehci0 usb1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0 x177,0x376,0xf400-0xf40f at device 13.0 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: port 0x9f0-0x9f7,0xbf0-0xbf3,0 x970-0x977,0xb70-0xb73,0xe000-0xe00f mem 0xfe02d000-0xfe02dfff irq 23 at device 14.0 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] atapci2: port 0x9e0-0x9e7,0xbe0-0xbe3,0 x960-0x967,0xb60-0xb63,0xcc00-0xcc0f mem 0xfe02c000-0xfe02cfff irq 20 at device 15.0 on pci0 atapci2: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci2 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci2 ata5: [ITHREAD] pcib4: at device 16.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pcm0: mem 0xfe024000-0xfe027fff irq 21 at device 16.1 on pci0 pcm0: [ITHREAD] nfe0: port 0xc800-0xc807 mem 0xfe02 b000-0xfe02bfff irq 22 at device 20.0 on pci0 miibus0: on nfe0 e1000phy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 e1000phy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto nfe0: Ethernet address: 00:1b:fc:93:da:00 nfe0: [FILTER] acpi_tz0: on acpi0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 ppbus0: [ITHREAD] plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ppc0: [ITHREAD] atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: [ITHREAD] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 76319MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 pcm0: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=18 WARNING: zero cnid entnum=4 j=2 index =0 entries=8 found=2 res=0x21002211 pcm0: pcm0: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ and also my kernel config file cpu HAMMER ident EMU7 # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options SCTP # Stream Control Transmission Protocol options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options UFS_GJOURNAL # Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options NTFS # NT File System options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization options COMPAT_43TTY # BSD 4.3 TTY compat [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_IA32 # Compatible with i386 binaries options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. options STOP_NMI # Stop CPUS using NMI instead of IPI options AUDIT # Security event auditing # Make an SMP-capable kernel by default options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel # CPU frequency control device cpufreq # Bus support. device acpi device pci # Floppy drives #device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives #device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers #device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. #device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices #options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) #device hptiop # Highpoint RocketRaid 3xxx series #device isp # Qlogic family #device ispfw # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a module #device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') #device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters #device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters #device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters #device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. #device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device arcmsr # Areca SATA II RAID #device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* #device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options #device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x #device hptrr # Highpoint RocketRAID 17xx, 22xx, 23xx, 25xx #device iir # Intel Integrated RAID #device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID #device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID #device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID # RAID controllers #device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID #device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device mfi # LSI MegaRAID SAS #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #XXX pointer/int warnings #device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 #device twe # 3ware ATA RAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc device agp # support several AGP chipsets # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports device uart # Generic UART driver # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is # supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following # line to enable it (connects to sio, uart and/or ppc drivers): #device puc # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card #device ixgb # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card #device le # AMD Am7900 LANCE and Am79C9xx PCnet #device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support #device bce # Broadcom BCM5706/BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet #device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet #device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet #device msk # Marvell/SysKonnect Yukon II Gigabit Ethernet device nfe # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet #device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet #device nve # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet Networking #device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over 'le') #device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F #device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. #device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' #device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards #device ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ #device ep # Etherlink III based cards #device fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards #device sn # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips #device xe # Xircom pccard Ethernet # Wireless NIC cards #device wlan # 802.11 support #device wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support #device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support #device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support #device wlan_amrr # AMRR transmit rate control algorithm #device wlan_scan_ap # 802.11 AP mode scanning #device wlan_scan_sta # 802.11 STA mode scanning #device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. #device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's #device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) #device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath #device awi # BayStack 660 and others #device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs. #device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) device firmware # firmware assist module # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse #device ural # Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs #device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires miibus #device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet #device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet #device cdce # Generic USB over Ethernet #device cue # CATC USB Ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet #device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet # FireWire support #device firewire # FireWire bus code #device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) #device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) #device fwip # IP over FireWire (RFC 2734,3146) #device dcons # Dumb console driver #device dcons_crom # Configuration ROM for dcons # Sound support device sound # Enables sound device snd_hda # Intel High-Definition Audio +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I have no idea what to do, other than using my old kernel; any help would be appreciated! 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Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 05:54:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95971065678 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA068FC20 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mehul.n.ved@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 25so5456679wfa.7 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:54:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=TGiOjBkKWqIvf/gjwptdCRN/YM5bpLjQoYqxVuTOG2I=; b=LyDuRabkVMzSO4lUKxYBgTZ8FufZD+FMGYNX0qcYn2eDC9te/cZTI5Y2laj0xSQVtt3r9wtpVpYqpAVoti4wAuOoZISg30Y/vR/m+VU6gHCQjQNkmUzo4OaHlSfE8oYGEuvLY1CZwhMTt5pbd/HQlSnc0/hF6uj0OcEkY9tLTrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=vctYdQ5lMmAvCXeki0cEK9BBtFWI5o01RTJrMwkXC1YNdZ7OrYIP/mVWJr5wOl2+sDl54PrxKzLsTmRNLZ5/vP+Hq6FAv2bXXY4Yw0AOgZJsxZbAV/s54igumHuzbKFwm+kr31pPmteQ6m+6Tch6OHJdTkl1MCRxtVeDhMq4ymM= Received: by 10.142.125.5 with SMTP id x5mr8143149wfc.40.1204437295121; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:54:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.163.5 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 21:54:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:24:55 +0530 From: "Mehul Ved" To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> Subject: Re: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:54:55 -0000 On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:15 AM, eculp wrote: > My problem is that I haven't done a linux install since before > FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would be the most > versatile and has an installer that is basically brain dead simple > with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the impossible but > you never know. Maybe PC-BSD or Sabayon Linux. Sabayon is based on gentoo and contains lots of proprietory drivers built in. So, if you have no problem with that maybe you could look at Sabayon Linux too. 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( [66.66.102.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i33sm6301842wxd.4.2008.03.01.21.35.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:35:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4EFB7E35-456B-49B5-8212-08B1759E0C34@gmail.com> From: Chad Gross To: Rico Secada In-Reply-To: <20080302041321.774bc502.coolzone@it.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:35:48 -0500 References: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> <20080302041321.774bc502.coolzone@it.dk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:02:19 -0000 On Mar 1, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Rico Secada wrote: > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:45:14 -0600 > eculp wrote: > >> I have installed freebsd server in a small company that has approx >> 30 pc's of all sizes, shapes, brands, etc. They have just realized >> that a large part of the problems that they had before the firewall >> was caused by the 30 windows pc's that were connected directly to >> the ISP's wireless router. They would like to change the PC's to >> unix desktops. >> >> I would like to install FreeBSD or any other bsd but don't feel that >> we have the drivers available to substitute such a wide variety of >> hardware. I would love to be proven wrong. Therefore I am >> considering a linux version with a graphic installer that will make >> it easier to train someone to install on any new machines that they >> add later. My problem is that I haven't done a linux install since >> before FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would be the >> most versatile and has an installer that is basically brain dead >> simple with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the >> impossible but you never know. >> >> I'm sure that I'm not the only person to run into this situation and >> I would sure appreciate any suggestions. > > In my experience from similar situations I would recommend OpenSUSE > from Novell, since it has to be as windows "like" as possible. > OpenSUSE > is very well supported and since it is Novell who is behind the > distro, > the company can provide professional support. > > In general I recommend Debian over any distro, but in some rare cases > like this one, I would rather recommend OpenSUSE. I would recommend investigating Ubuntu or one of it's clones (e.g. Xubuntu, Kubuntu). The install is "brainless", they offer commercial support through the parent company Canonical, and they are Debian-based. Another option would be PC-BSD or DesktopBSD as they both have very easy installations and will support most things that the above support. The only stipulation that I have run into is the standard trouble of Flash on BSD operating systems. > > >> Thanks, >> >> ed >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 06:05:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92003106566B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avatar4d@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498168FC1F for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avatar4d@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so5637705wxd.7 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:05:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=TDKPMv1Rw2+5w/AoF71sXG+tJ9e6cq37OcX/FPl3rVc=; b=HtFa1Kb0AOvYcIKnRBZEt6TWXTEIJpRcgEUg/VS6gFqsluuAGAG4+UOiZOjLnIHyws9D4GVjgwgFHFQ1VqE4UDqQhV/ycY3txb2gbToGtOPdhQWyy8mwWn1JRAxlmS/IFAnwTzWLEOgt2dXq6CJTaUCbYeRHt6A6QbXM8aMPBjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=jnnDesX/SDh4n5bYq0wfJEVRZMR5yxWJGphHhh/fHMb+TFkJ7x3ocjAyEeAJe57pMidwTbpenyWtldY61PMZq9GzdqOXEABSIPNqKn30RIgDgWS7GB5P3n6P8zZ1mqBh1KhuqHtk2E/QdKjwRtjePYVT14K43ydC/FrVVjXFvgM= Received: by 10.70.13.6 with SMTP id 6mr10103291wxm.29.1204436275459; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.112? ( [66.66.102.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h37sm5761688wxd.6.2008.03.01.21.37.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:37:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <52340A3A-6696-4940-BFCD-B2D170BEE983@gmail.com> From: Chad Gross To: tundra@tundraware.com In-Reply-To: <47A3C37B.10707@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:37:49 -0500 References: <47A3C37B.10707@tundraware.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: So How Hard Is Moving From 6.3 To 7.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:05:03 -0000 On Feb 1, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I have a stable 6.3 production server. If I buildworld/kernel for > 7.0, > install them, and reboot, will everything pretty much work the same as > it did under 6.3, or have file locations, userland configuration, etc. > changed? Will my 6.3 binaries run unchanged on 7.0 as well? > TIA, You will want to check /usr/src/UPDATING and /usr/ports/UPDATING for changes before doing any kind of update. > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com > PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 06:13:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6035D1065684 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42ADD8FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m226DnVG081338 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:13:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m226DnTT081337; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:13:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02948; Sat, 1 Mar 08 22:02:48 PST Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:57:29 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: clarkp@mtmary.edu Message-Id: <47ca41c9.Km8lEtIDXQECQMmE%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <47c9e1a1.c98z3hRYgXce6kBO%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <39632.218.185.52.132.1204432269.squirrel@webmail.mtmary.edu> In-Reply-To: <39632.218.185.52.132.1204432269.squirrel@webmail.mtmary.edu> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dependencies in portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:13:51 -0000 > If you truly are just looking at the dependency list and do not > wish to have make do anything, wouldn't this do the trick: > > http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portdependencytree.py Not quite, because it doesn't show which of the dependencies I have already got installed, and which of those would need to be updated. Secondly, I would have needed to know it existed :) > I guess you would need to have an up to date ports tree for this > to be accurate. Not a problem in this case. The whole point is to find out what-all I would be stuck with building in order to build one particular port after updating the tree a few days ago. Why not just rebuild everything? Because I'm not willing to attempt a rebuild of OpenOffice -- that was a collosal PITA the first time -- nor the xorg migration; I figure those are better accomplished by a clean install once the Mall's 7.0 CD set is ready. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 08:30:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157981065670 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 08:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837708FC12 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 08:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (athedsl-366477.home.otenet.gr [87.202.159.106]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m228U5wF024111; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:30:06 +0200 Message-ID: <47CA65C5.7010101@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:31:01 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tore Lund References: <47C93ABA.6020903@otenet.gr> <47C9C2B6.3000807@netscape.net> In-Reply-To: <47C9C2B6.3000807@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 08:30:09 -0000 Tore Lund wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have already upgraded a couple of machines from 7.0-RC1/2 to >> 7.0-RELEASE using: >> >> freebsd-update -r 7.0-RELEASE upgrade >> >> However, on this one machine, I get this: >> >> freebsd-update: cannot open files/.gz: No such file or directory >> > > I have no answer, but as step in hopefully the right direction, let me > ask: does /var/db/freebsd-update/files exist when you get that message? > Are there any files in it? > > I upgraded yesterday, and my ../files directory is full of *.gz files. > I can't really remember, but since I've deleted and recreated the entire folder, it should have been recreated at first run as well. I didn't really solve the freebsd-update problem, but I upgraded the machine in the following way: I did a binary upgrade from the CD, then csup'd the sources and recompiled the kernel. I guess if there continues to be a problem with freebsd-update, it may exhibit itself during normal updates as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 08:46:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459801065670 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 08:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from budiyt@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B418FC14 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 08:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from budiyt@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so5728616waf.3 for ; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:46:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=IOPXllfp3U5wre0fvRG/s75HXWbTNS0UuyPOi5LbxGE=; b=rhXRaqkp6e+NC5K+AJy2egAPLLofAq9qRQ6OCjqNclchyx1uZ+hPfdWpk/oVAOGxUpy2j2sDQHwfYPGjY5biflSjrEfAe0sMvhi8hvmkXs642MN68Rb7if7PECpf9Aa8ZBDebrNLt9+OBcoQ4ORVK8xdKJnGtOKwqQbgo07YnDw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LfE21wudcng0tOioAbgltgtZspoEYduFzf/aP1RLTng9Ya/linvB5XBch2Z0XmyvYPqZNfglWvxBNsh4bHup6/oL3Nu2OdqGb/THkzSEIHKF8Tfi0oyrHmDSpdLfSUIVuuigRcQWfCYRD7FaD7Lfy1OzCXZ+XNIX6l7b1OAASUo= Received: by 10.115.74.1 with SMTP id b1mr4082022wal.93.1204445983721; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.131.6 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:19:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4d4dc3640803020019r4d218363k8e473e32086012ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:19:43 +0700 From: budsz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ACPI trouble FreeBSD 7.0 STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 08:46:08 -0000 Hi, Yesterday, I try to CVSUP/make world from FreeBSD 6.3 STABLE to FreeBSD 7.0 STABLE: I got strange debug message here: Mar 2 14:14:14 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: suspend request ignored (not ready yet) Mar 2 14:14:14 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: request to enter state S5 failed (err 6) Mar 2 14:14:15 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: suspend request ignored (not ready yet) Mar 2 14:14:15 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: request to enter state S5 failed (err 6) Mar 2 14:14:16 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: suspend request ignored (not ready yet) Mar 2 14:14:16 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: request to enter state S5 failed (err 6) Mar 2 14:14:17 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: suspend request ignored (not ready yet) Mar 2 14:14:17 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: request to enter state S5 failed (err 6) Mar 2 14:14:18 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: suspend request ignored (not ready yet) Mar 2 14:14:18 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: request to enter state S5 failed (err 6) Mar 2 14:14:18 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: suspend request ignored (not ready yet) Mar 2 14:14:18 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi: request to enter state S5 failed (err 6) Mar 2 14:14:19 gw-core-iixrouter syslogd: exiting on signal 15 Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 1 09:44:33 WIT 2008 Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: root@gw-core-iixrouter.kumprang.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IIX-ROUTER Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.13GHz (2130.56-MHz 686-class CPU) Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf41 Stepping = 1 Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: Features=0xbfebfbff Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: real memory = 263454720 (251 MB) Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: avail memory = 247963648 (236 MB) Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 1 Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi0: [ITHREAD] Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed Mar 2 14:21:20 gw-core-iixrouter kernel: acpi0: reservation of 100000, fb00000 (3) failed Someone give me clue to resolving this problem. Thanks You. -- budsz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 08:48:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4920C106566C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 08:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from virtual.micronet.sk (smtp.micronet.sk [84.16.32.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E6F8FC1B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 08:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2D210E7C5; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 09:47:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at virtual.micronet.sk Received: from virtual.micronet.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virtual.micronet.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CJYHXiktAvIx; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 09:47:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from DANGER-PC (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CFE10E7AA; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 09:47:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 09:50:43 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.3) Professional Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <256113233.20080302095043@rulez.sk> To: B. Cook In-Reply-To: <740F46FB-B946-408F-8404-7C25E6273F43@poughkeepsieschools.org> References: <740F46FB-B946-408F-8404-7C25E6273F43@poughkeepsieschools.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looks like success X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 08:48:58 -0000 Hello B., Thursday, February 28, 2008, 9:27:03 PM, you wrote: > Hello all, > make delete-old (took a long time to do by hand) > and make delete-old-libs (went rather quickly) if you really want to delete all things: # yes | make delete-old -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 09:32:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30C1106566C for ; 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Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:01:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0FD8FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m22A1TN1078585; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:01:29 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m22A1TN1078585 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47CA7AF9.3090401@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:01:29 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Walker References: <6293ba970803011829u77bf6191i446a958527e014ea@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6293ba970803011829u77bf6191i446a958527e014ea@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:01:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6074/Sat Mar 1 21:59:36 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0 and fsck question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:01:36 -0000 Walker wrote: > Today I lost power and my FreeBSD 7.0-R server came up with all > partitions "not properly dismounted". I was watching the fsck reports > to syslog and noticed there wasn't one for the root partition. Why is > this? No syslogd running at the point when fsck runs on /? Two possibilities: i) The root partition wasn't marked dirty at the time your system crashed. This seems unlikely to me unless you're doing things like mounting root read-only. ii) The root partition is fsck'd somewhat earlier in the boot sequence than other partitions. You'ld still see mention of it in the console output. However it is the case that in the default system layout, there's very little that would actually be writing to the root partition, and the partition itself is pretty small, so even if the root does get fsck'd it will be pretty quick and fairly painless. Perhaps you simply missed it in all the text scrolling up the screen? Cheers, Matthew Note: mounting root read-only is guru territory -- unless you understand what stuff is going to break, why and how to get around all that, then it's best not to even contemplate such things. -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 11:04:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F59106566C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: from smtp1.default.co.yu (anarki.default.co.yu [87.237.201.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 369668FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: (qmail 57966 invoked by uid 89); 2 Mar 2008 11:04:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.5.7.109?) (bc@default.co.yu@213.198.226.187) by smtp1.default.co.yu with SMTP; 2 Mar 2008 11:04:49 -0000 Message-ID: <47CA89CE.7070503@default.co.yu> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:04:46 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?Qm9nZGFuIMSGdWxpYnJr?= Organization: Default Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tundra@tundraware.com References: <47A3C37B.10707@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <47A3C37B.10707@tundraware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: So How Hard Is Moving From 6.3 To 7.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:04:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tim Daneliuk wrote: | I have a stable 6.3 production server. I would stop right there. Question is why would you change something that simply works? - -- Best regards, Bogdan Culibrk bc@default.co.yu http://default.co.yu/~bc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkfKic4ACgkQo6C4vAhYtCBqKwCeOCybASwKMu4HV7oTeJRmaeUa eiEAnjyKaPVDYXv/aiNIqeQQx+bbbhtO =Fxf9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 11:47:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1461065670 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ezat_t@optusnet.com.au) Received: from fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268E88FC1B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ezat_t@optusnet.com.au) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m22AvK5q014329 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:57:20 +1100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (155.183.233.220.exetel.com.au [220.233.183.155]) (authenticated sender ezyt) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m22AvCGq004538 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:57:18 +1100 Message-ID: <47CA8809.7050905@optusnet.com.au> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:57:13 +1100 From: Ezat User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Postfix port broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:47:03 -0000 Hello all, Not sure if correct list for this. Trying to install postfix today and came across this issue. ===> postfix-2.5.1_1,1 Waiting for a new patch that's work with 2.5.1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/postfix. Anyone have same issue? ezat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 11:48:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766961065672 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D2F8FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m22BmKmC000905; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:48:20 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m22BmKmC000905 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47CA9404.3090404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:48:20 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kenp_89@yahoo.com References: <265774.25483.qm@web57315.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <265774.25483.qm@web57315.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:48:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6074/Sat Mar 1 21:59:36 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Internet connection errors on 7.0-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:48:26 -0000 Ken Peck wrote: > Hello, fellow FreeBSD'ers, I just yesterday did a source upgrade from > 6.3-STABLE to 7.0-STABLE, but am now having problems getting back online. > > I am certain this is kernel-related, as I have Internet access through a > backup copy of my 6.3 kernel, and all my other computers work fine as well. > nfe0: port 0xc800-0xc807 mem 0xfe02 > b000-0xfe02bfff irq 22 at device 20.0 on pci0 > miibus0: on nfe0 > e1000phy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 > e1000phy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto > nfe0: Ethernet address: 00:1b:fc:93:da:00 > nfe0: [FILTER] Hmmm... This is the only network adapter I can see in your boot messages. Which is odd, because the nfe(4) device was first supported in 7.0 -- were you using ethernet on the machine with 6.3 at all? Did you patch the 6.3 kernel or use a separate NIC card if so? If that hasn't caused a light to dawn, could you send the output from pciconf -lv ifconfig -a (obfuscate the IP numbers if you really must) Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 12:17:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7981065670 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from farris.bafirst.com (adsl-074-165-190-154.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [74.165.190.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BE68FC1C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from HOME.encontacto.net ([189.129.17.152]) by farris.bafirst.com with esmtp; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:17:16 -0600 id 0006D418.47CA9ACD.00014CD7 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by HOME.encontacto.net with local; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:17:16 -0600 id 0004AC1D.47CA9ACC.00014251 Received: from 172.16.0.2 ([172.16.0.2]) by intranet.encontacto.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:16:28 -0600 Message-ID: <20080302061628.689932a7sed2bcmc@intranet.encontacto.net> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:16:28 -0600 From: eculp To: Chad Gross References: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> <20080302041321.774bc502.coolzone@it.dk> <4EFB7E35-456B-49B5-8212-08B1759E0C34@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EFB7E35-456B-49B5-8212-08B1759E0C34@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:17:16 -0600 Resent-From: eculp@encontacto.net Resent-To: freebsd-questions Resent-Message-ID: <20080302061716.31173m68its1dhgk@intranet.encontacto.net> Old-Return-Path: eculp@encontacto.net User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) Cc: Subject: Re: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:17:19 -0000 Quoting Chad Gross : > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Rico Secada wrote: > >> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:45:14 -0600 >> eculp wrote: >> >>> I have installed freebsd server in a small company that has approx >>> 30 pc's of all sizes, shapes, brands, etc. They have just realized >>> that a large part of the problems that they had before the firewall >>> was caused by the 30 windows pc's that were connected directly to >>> the ISP's wireless router. They would like to change the PC's to >>> unix desktops. >>> >>> I would like to install FreeBSD or any other bsd but don't feel that >>> we have the drivers available to substitute such a wide variety of >>> hardware. I would love to be proven wrong. Therefore I am >>> considering a linux version with a graphic installer that will make >>> it easier to train someone to install on any new machines that they >>> add later. My problem is that I haven't done a linux install since >>> before FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would be the >>> most versatile and has an installer that is basically brain dead >>> simple with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the >>> impossible but you never know. >>> >>> I'm sure that I'm not the only person to run into this situation and >>> I would sure appreciate any suggestions. >> >> In my experience from similar situations I would recommend OpenSUSE >> from Novell, since it has to be as windows "like" as possible. OpenSUSE >> is very well supported and since it is Novell who is behind the distro, >> the company can provide professional support. >> >> In general I recommend Debian over any distro, but in some rare cases >> like this one, I would rather recommend OpenSUSE. > > > I would recommend investigating Ubuntu or one of it's clones (e.g. =20 > Xubuntu, Kubuntu). The install is "brainless", they offer commercial =20 > support through the parent company Canonical, and they are =20 > Debian-based. Hi Chad, Thanks a lot, I just tried the latest and greatest Ubuntu on my PITA =20 laptop, acer 5520-5679, that is running FreeBSD current amd64 and was =20 unable to get to the next step after the X configuration on the =20 graphic installer. I got no error so maybe I should have waited =20 longer and something would have happened. I think I dislike graphic =20 installers unless maybe they were verbose and give an indication of =20 the problem. > Another option would be PC-BSD or DesktopBSD as they both have very =20 > easy installations and will support most things that the above =20 > support. The only stipulation that I have run into is the standard =20 > trouble of Flash on BSD operating systems. Very true. Windows folks, have a hardtime not just clicking on the =20 "you must update to the latest version of the flash player" or =20 something like that and expecting it to just work. Thanks again, ed >> >> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> ed >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 12:21:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368E01065671 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from farris.bafirst.com (adsl-074-165-190-154.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [74.165.190.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7328FC23 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from HOME.encontacto.net ([189.129.17.152]) by farris.bafirst.com with esmtp; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:21:37 -0600 id 0006D418.47CA9BD1.00014D2E Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by HOME.encontacto.net with local; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:21:36 -0600 id 0004AC1D.47CA9BD0.00016064 Received: from 172.16.0.2 ([172.16.0.2]) by intranet.encontacto.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:21:36 -0600 Message-ID: <20080302062136.274050kadocymyw4@intranet.encontacto.net> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:21:36 -0600 From: eculp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) Subject: Re: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:21:39 -0000 Quoting Mehul Ved : > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:15 AM, eculp wrote: >> My problem is that I haven't done a linux install since before >> FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would be the most >> versatile and has an installer that is basically brain dead simple >> with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the impossible but >> you never know. > > Maybe PC-BSD or Sabayon Linux. Sabayon is based on gentoo and contains > lots of proprietory drivers built in. So, if you have no problem > with that maybe > you could look at Sabayon Linux too. I've never heard of Sabayon but will definitely give it a shot on my laptop first and take a good look at the licensing. I really like the idea of PC-BSD but the Flash thing, holds me back a bit. ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 12:29:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA29106566B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from farris.bafirst.com (adsl-074-165-190-154.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [74.165.190.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E698FC19 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from HOME.encontacto.net ([189.129.17.152]) by farris.bafirst.com with esmtp; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:29:20 -0600 id 0006D41B.47CA9DA0.00014DCE Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by HOME.encontacto.net with local; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:29:20 -0600 id 0004AC18.47CA9DA0.000161C8 Received: from 172.16.0.2 ([172.16.0.2]) by intranet.encontacto.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:29:20 -0600 Message-ID: <20080302062920.15702cncp0dfx8ro@intranet.encontacto.net> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:29:20 -0600 From: eculp To: Predrag Punosevac References: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> <47CA17D6.9010905@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <47CA17D6.9010905@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:29:22 -0000 Quoting Predrag Punosevac : > eculp wrote: >> I have installed freebsd server in a small company that has approx =20 >> 30 pc's of all sizes, shapes, brands, etc. They have just realized =20 >> that a large part of the problems that they had before the firewall =20 >> was caused by the 30 windows pc's that were connected directly to =20 >> the ISP's wireless router. They would like to change the PC's to =20 >> unix desktops. >> >> I would like to install FreeBSD or any other bsd but don't feel =20 >> that we have the drivers available to substitute such a wide =20 >> variety of hardware. I would love to be proven wrong. Therefore I =20 >> am considering a linux version with a graphic installer that will =20 >> make it easier to train someone to install on any new machines that =20 >> they add later. My problem is that I haven't done a linux install =20 >> since before FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would =20 >> be the most versatile and has an installer that is basically brain =20 >> dead simple with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the =20 >> impossible but you never know. >> >> I'm sure that I'm not the only person to run into this situation =20 >> and I would sure appreciate any suggestions. >> >> Thanks, >> >> ed > PC-BSD would be a good choice but stay away from PBI. You may try =20 > also DesktopBSD, TrueBSD, or RoFreeSBIE. > Something like the above would be my choice except for potential =20 driver availability and FLASH9 that hold me back. I've not looked at =20 TrueBSD or ROFreeSBIE although I have used FreeSBIE 6.0 IIRC. Thanks, ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 12:31:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16AB4106566B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from farris.bafirst.com (adsl-074-165-190-154.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [74.165.190.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38558FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:31:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from HOME.encontacto.net ([189.129.17.152]) by farris.bafirst.com with esmtp; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:31:55 -0600 id 0006D418.47CA9E3C.00014E04 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by HOME.encontacto.net with local; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:31:55 -0600 id 0004AC18.47CA9E3B.0001627D Received: from 172.16.0.2 ([172.16.0.2]) by intranet.encontacto.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:31:55 -0600 Message-ID: <20080302063155.12053j71raf1kdic@intranet.encontacto.net> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:31:55 -0600 From: eculp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> <20080302041321.774bc502.coolzone@it.dk> In-Reply-To: <20080302041321.774bc502.coolzone@it.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) Subject: Re: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:31:58 -0000 Quoting Rico Secada : > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:45:14 -0600 > eculp wrote: > >> I have installed freebsd server in a small company that has approx >> 30 pc's of all sizes, shapes, brands, etc. They have just realized >> that a large part of the problems that they had before the firewall >> was caused by the 30 windows pc's that were connected directly to >> the ISP's wireless router. They would like to change the PC's to >> unix desktops. >> >> I would like to install FreeBSD or any other bsd but don't feel that >> we have the drivers available to substitute such a wide variety of >> hardware. I would love to be proven wrong. Therefore I am >> considering a linux version with a graphic installer that will make >> it easier to train someone to install on any new machines that they >> add later. My problem is that I haven't done a linux install since >> before FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would be the >> most versatile and has an installer that is basically brain dead >> simple with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the >> impossible but you never know. >> >> I'm sure that I'm not the only person to run into this situation and >> I would sure appreciate any suggestions. > > In my experience from similar situations I would recommend OpenSUSE > from Novell, since it has to be as windows "like" as possible. OpenSUSE > is very well supported and since it is Novell who is behind the distro, > the company can provide professional support. > > In general I recommend Debian over any distro, but in some rare cases > like this one, I would rather recommend OpenSUSE. > Hey Rico, That really makes a lot of sense, I'll give it a try in a few minutes, Thanks a lot. ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 12:43:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3F0106567C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ezat@ezatech.com.au) Received: from mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F35A8FC2F for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ezat@ezatech.com.au) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (155.183.233.220.exetel.com.au [220.233.183.155]) (authenticated sender ezyt) by mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m22Cb2uP008750; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:37:07 +1100 Message-ID: <47CA9F6F.2060901@ezatech.com.au> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:37:03 +1100 From: Ezat - Ezatech User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) To: eculp References: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> <20080302062136.274050kadocymyw4@intranet.encontacto.net> In-Reply-To: <20080302062136.274050kadocymyw4@intranet.encontacto.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:43:52 -0000 Ed, If flash is bothering you, its quite easy to just install the linux version of firefox on FreeBSD. Sabayon linux is a multimedia powerhouse. Definately needs some good spec hardware to run even after most of the xgl services have been disabled. The sabayon image is around 4.2GB which gives you an indication. Ezat. eculp wrote: Quoting Mehul Ved [1]: On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:15 AM, eculp [2] wrote: My problem is that I haven't done a linux install since before FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would be the most versatile and has an installer that is basically brain dead simple with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the impossible but you never know. Maybe PC-BSD or Sabayon Linux. Sabayon is based on gentoo and contains lots of proprietory drivers built in. So, if you have no problem with that maybe you could look at Sabayon Linux too. I've never heard of Sabayon but will definitely give it a shot on my laptop first and take a good look at the licensing. I really like the idea of PC-BSD but the Flash thing, holds me back a bit. ed _______________________________________________ [3]freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list [4]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [5]"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" References 1. mailto:mehul.n.ved@gmail.com 2. mailto:eculp@encontacto.net 3. mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 4. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions 5. mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 13:04:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4CE106566C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colinpauladams@googlemail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5C08FC20 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colinpauladams@googlemail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n40so2758822gve.39 for ; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:04:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=6Z5Mktk90gYNRLQ4ra+EJ0Xv+HsGFDbgmXPv7C6MfDk=; b=qbAT1UWKXdYTf0G5BwL+nuAXhrltR1JTGmpyCV9H7eyB8yleygo+5UoC+aVh5hLJBGeicLK5u/V2efBy3AzlI9nqNsR4