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Date:      Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:27:42 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
Cc:        "David W. Chapman Jr." <dwcjr@inethouston.net>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, Mark Valentine <mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, Takahashi Yoshihiro <nyan@jp.FreeBSD.org>, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libdisk Makefile chunk.c write_alpha_dis 
Message-ID:  <23018.1035574062@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 26 Oct 2002 05:27:21 %2B1000." <20021026052106.L5096-100000@gamplex.bde.org> 

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In message <20021026052106.L5096-100000@gamplex.bde.org>, Bruce Evans writes:
>On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote:
>
>> > > Mark Valentine <mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk> writes:
>> > > > The MBR partitioning is a feature of the MBR boot code, not of the BIOS.
>> > >
>> > > Wrong.  Plenty of recent-issue BIOSen (particularly on laptops) go
>> > > down in flames if the MBR does not contain a valid partition table.
>> >
>> > Wrong yourself.  Mark unfortunately understands how MBRs are supposed to
>> > work.  It is a layering violating for the BIOS to look in the private
>> > parts of the bootstrap code for another subsystem.
>>
>> Just because it is wrong does not mean it does not happen.  Haven't
>> we already been down this bikeshed with DD?
>
>Not quite.  DD functionality hasn't been axed, so people who like it can
>still use it.  They can make things work by not using ****ware on which it
>doesn't work.  After axing, this is more painful because it involves not
>using FreeBSD or maintaining huge local patches.

DD is not axed, it should still work in GEOM, provided the disk holds
the correct bits.

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