From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 26 19:50:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D051065670 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACA08FC14 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so606255wyg.13 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:50:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G/oK+KBrL6dbT3rkmCa3+4F3W/x8E8wOJlQhLn+Q4AQ=; b=pV6FW+bX98re30hhiLSDeH2EmoZmhMrs20hCg6KKc5Iwc/1aN037N/AGdK5Fu74EXv UNvP1Z3V1kp3Vii0kC71QHpssJ+woaJeVB4KeyPog0w3TNVOBjtS8NGK+0w1G9Z8hcKy /BgmpI27bSdmCzLj9ISHS0f1olnFh/DpZqL34= Received: by 10.227.62.194 with SMTP id y2mr5312475wbh.43.1311708486690; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fo2sm692317wbb.48.2011.07.26.12.28.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:28:02 +0100 From: RW To: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110726202802.614853c8@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20110726161320.GC80142@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <20110726092756.GA90978@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <20110726161320.GC80142@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:50:12 -0000 On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:13:20 -0700 Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Torfinn Ingolfsen on Tuesday, 26 July 2011: > > > > From what i hear, people are happy with the > > > management of ports in OpenBSD, while most of people i hear are > > > very unhappy with FreeBSD ports. > > > > I would say that "most people your hear" isn't a representative > > subset of all the people who use ports. > > In my experience anyway. > > Right. Don't say "most people" unless you can back it up with a > statistically significant sampling. I expect the experiences of > FreeBSD users vary much more than "most people" imagine. It seems more reasonable than the idea that most people using FreeBSD are doing so despite being "very unhappy with FreeBSD ports". If that's really true then we should give Beastie nipple-clamps and a ball-gag to better appeal to our key demographic.