From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 15:53:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3EEBE3F; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22B11B9F; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:53:56 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0NBA00321709SK00@hades.sorbs.net>; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <5405E810.8000400@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 17:53:52 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: Brandon Allbery Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> In-reply-to: Cc: "pkg@freebsd.org" , "stable@freebsd.org" , "current@freebsd.org" , "ports@freebsd.org" , "mva@freebsd.org" , Garrett Cooper X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:53:57 -0000 Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Michelle Sullivan > wrote: > > >> This is my only option - however, I suspect I'm already f**ked - my >> build servers kicked off at 4am and the non pkg jails automatically >> converted themselves to pkg.. the pkg jails obviously continued... >> however I now have a repo that contains half pkg versions in the same >> directory structure and indexes as the pkg_install structure... >> >> > > So, the flip side of enterprise software management is that you probably > should not be integrating a rolling release like ports into what is > supposed to be a stable verified environment in the first place. > *Especially* not via cron jobs with no supervision. At the very least, your > jails should be working from a local ports tree (or packages via > poudriere), with cherry-picking of locally tested patches. > > The roll until they get a stable base (using Jenkins as the controller) - they've been rolling since a patch to DBIx-SearchBuilder (that I created and submitted), which out came the DBD::Pg update to 3.3.0 and the subsequent blacklisting of it for RT 4.x and then the tcl breakage around mid August until 2 days ago... So yeah not that stupid. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/