From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 3 11:18:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles558.castles.com [208.214.165.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4130014CE0 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:18:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06730; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:09:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911031909.LAA06730@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Network booting, I'm off to work (was Re: GENERIC build broken) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Nov 1999 10:43:43 PST." <199911031843.KAA60534@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:09:17 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok folks. It's pretty clear that Matt and I have a difference of opinion here. I can either spend more time trying to deal with what I see as FUD, or actually do the work, and I'm picking the latter. Yes, I'm aware of what people are currently doing inre: diskless booting. No, I don't plan to arbitrarily sabotage these already-working configurations just for the fun of it. Yes, there are continuation plans that should allow almost all of these configurations to continue to work, either in their current or a slightly modified form. No, I don't mean to force anyone to go buy new bootroms, or to upgrade their hardware. But yes, this is the best way to get diskless booting to work right. Understand that development work that's worthwhile is focussed on the future. FreeBSD is not an operating system for retired hardware; that's across the hall with the NetBSD folks. We need to keep ourselves focussed on where we're going, and right now, in this context, it means that we need to look at doing PXE on i386 properly. I'm more than happy to talk to people about the technical issues involved (and have been behind all the smoke), and I've had an open call for participants and contributors for months (almost no respondents) to both do the grunt work and help drive the bus. Thanks for following this, and I hope to have something to show for it fairly soon. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message