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Date:      Sun, 9 May 2010 02:18:10 -0400
From:      Ansar Mohammed <ansarm@gmail.com>
To:        Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: File system
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You know what,
dont worry about it. Thanks for the help all! You have been very helpful.




On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com>wrote:

>  On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ansar Mohammed <ansarm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Bobby,
>>
>> The VM is in my lab environemnt. I have many flavours of Windows, Linux
>> and
>> FreeBSD. FreeBSD is my firewall running PF.
>>
>
>
>>
>> I have rebooted my entire environment hundreds of times, and non of my
>> Windows or Linux VMs will complain or boot into a repair/single user mode.
>>
>> The background to this problem is because the FreeBSD root filesystem
>> (UFS)
>> is not journaled and for some reason I cannot set my root partition to be
>> UFS+SoftUpdates.
>>
>
> Well I'd say that's clearly not the problem since so many of us don't have
> your issues.  SU is disabled on / for a reason. I highly doubt you actually
> want to enable this, but you can if you adjust the FS when it isn't mounted
> eg boot from fixit cd.
>
>>
>> At any rate, we are in the year 2010, most modern operating systems and
>> databases and able to survive an unclean shutdown without booting into
>> single user mode and file system/data corruption.
>>
>
> FreeBSD has defaulted to background checking on SU FS's for the better part
> of 10 years.  What version are you running?  What data corruption did you
> have and what does databases have to do with it?  Also DB's that are
> unexpectly killed can have consistency problems regardless of what FS it
> writes to and OS happens to be running it.
>
>
>>
>> I love FreeBSD, and have been a user since 2.x
>>
>
> User as in you saw it running a couple times?
>
> So on to your actual issue instead of all the bs, what does your
> /etc/rc.conf say?  Specifically, what is the boot failing on?
>
> If you really want the disk/partition/slice journaled, you can do so with
> gjournal or ZFS offers an even better copy-on-write system.  If the install
> is only running a fw, the zfs is probably overkill though.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Adam Vande More
>



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