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Date:      Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:19:40 -0700
From:      "Murray Stokely" <murray@stokely.org>
To:        "Alaksiej C" <ac@belngo.info>
Cc:        scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
Message-ID:  <2a7894eb0806051619s68d3b592m30207d5158546ec1@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <5709ce310806051612k56f5f88ao2bd7c33a0ca1b2e2@mail.gmail.com>
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Yea it's probably worth doing, but that would still only reach a small
fraction of the installed instances of FreeBSD, so what will that
number really give you?  The number of people using sysinstall that
choose to participate in this program?  Somewhat interesting I guess,
but that number is very different from the number of computers running
FreeBSD.  Any large installation will image drives or perform their
own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors
to know how many machines they are running.

The bsdstats website does not make this very clear and is I think
misleading and possibly harmful to the effort it is trying to
champion.

           - Murray

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Alaksiej C <ac@belngo.info> wrote:
> I think it would be nice to have "Enable bsdstats" option in sysinstall.
> Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of
> bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it.
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote:
>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> > Hash: SHA1
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in,
>> with a
>> > break down as follows:
>> >
>> >           PC-BSD           14 715 hosts
>> >           FreeBSD           6 331 hosts
>> >           DesktopBSD        2 662 hosts
>> >           NetBSD              108 hosts
>> >           MirBSD               68 hosts
>> >           OpenBSD              59 hosts
>> >           DragonFly            27 hosts
>> >           MidnightBSD          22 hosts
>> >           GNU/kFreeBSD          6 hosts
>> >
>>
>> I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the
>> number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's
>> something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the
>> other participants (6 more now) are:-)
>> Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up.
>> I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable
>> the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD
>> that there are FreeBSD?
>> For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to
>> be submitted.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>> Nairobi,KE
>> +254733744121/+254722743223
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>>
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