From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 26 11:28:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124301065675 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars.engels@0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.ipv6.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EBE8FC1E for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars.engels@0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.67.217]) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5184359FB for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:28:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 193.109.238.110 ([193.109.238.110]) by 0x20.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:28:47 +0200 Message-ID: <20080626132847.abf4caa680k0wwgg@0x20.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:28:47 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20080626103955.GA28128@rwxrwxrwx.net> In-Reply-To: <20080626103955.GA28128@rwxrwxrwx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_5w791ays8x0k"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Subject: Re: Stop Adobe Flash Petition X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:28:50 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_5w791ays8x0k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Martin Tournoij : > Sign it here: > > http://www.petitiononline.com/0034655a/petition.html > > The number of Adobe Flash sites are growing, and an increasing > amount of sites will simply cease to function when Flash is disabled > or unavailable. > > I would like to call to all web developers to (re)consider their use > of Flash, while it does have place on the web, it is often used in the > wrong way, on the wrong place, in a badly implemented manner. > > Why I dislike flash: > > o It often adds little or nothing to a website, most things can often > be achieved with either CSS or Javascript (or a combination) which > suffer from much less problems. > > o Flash is not usable, for example it often breaks the back button, > "find in page" does not work, setting font size does not work, and > many more. > > o Browser settings such as font size, enabling/disabled sound in web > pages etc. do not apply to flash, leaving the page's designer, not the > user, in control of the browser. > > o Flash is not accessible, screen readers, braille displays etc. often > have serious difficulty accessing flash pages. > > o Progressive enhancement is difficult to achieve with flash, unlike > for example CSS or Javascript, flash is binary data which interacts > poorly with HTML. > > o Flash is not supported on all operating systems, and only on a very > limited set of architectures. > > o Flash is slow, if you do not have a new $1000 PC but a somewhat > older "office PC" flash can be a serious performance hit. > > o There are a number of security issues with flash, and Adobe has > never seemed to quick/concerned to fix them. > > o Animation is annoying, I want to access information, not watch a > "cool" animation. > > Sincerely, > The Undersigned > While I totally agree to the above statements, tell me the sense of an =20 online petition. Do you know a single petition that changed _anything_? The petition is adressed "Web Designers". How should they get aware of =20 the petition? You cannot change the internet with that. Every big commercial site =20 has flash. It's colorful, it's loud, it attracts the people to their =20 products. So you won't convince the webmaster of these sites to change. Flash sucks but we can't avoid it. :-( --=_5w791ays8x0k Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: Digitale PGP-Unterschrift Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkhjfW8ACgkQKc512sD3afhIgACeJJvhAboBBeTRXRhYGZsWo3su ligAoJI+Os/N8BGAipErhBhKtaGzbVo1 =BfCY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_5w791ays8x0k--