From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 22:39:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA18471 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 22:39:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA18465 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 22:38:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA25896; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 00:36:04 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: picnic.mat.net: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 00:36:03 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@picnic.mat.net To: Murray Stokely cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel memory errors? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Murray Stokely wrote: > I can't run 'top' or 'ps' since booting a new 3.0 kernel (cvsuped less > than 24hrs ago). The system seems to be working fine, in that I'm in > X and running Netscape now, but I get the following errors when I try > to run two very important utilities... Evidently you're running current. The kernel has a direct interface to several programs, including ps, top, netstat, and others, and when the interface changes, you can't just build a new kernel, you have to build the entire world. Well, you can actually get away with rebuilding what breaks, though when you complain about things working wierdly, people will stop listening, because they know you aren't playing the game by the rules. They expect you're going to rebuild the world before you make a complaint. One other thing to note is that the interface between the kernel and the lkms is also very close, and if you upgrade your kernel without upgrading your lkms, and you load one, say goodnight, it's panic time. > > [pimp] Pimp? Really! Haha, ok ok /home/murray: top > kvm_open: proc size mismatch (28552 total, 656 chunks) > top: Out of memory. > > [pimp] /home/murray: ps > ps: proc size mismatch (14608 total, 656 chunks) > > Murray Stokely > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------