From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 5:46:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1119514C90; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 05:46:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.225.214]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAB481E; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:44:18 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA49039; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:29:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:29:50 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Nik Clayton Cc: Anders Andersson , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ndc(8) Message-ID: <19990829142950.D47956@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19990826100201.A33426@enterprise.sanyusan.se> <19990826212016.D86126@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19990826212016.D86126@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Nik Clayton (nik@freebsd.org) [990826 22:37]: >On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 10:02:01AM +0200, Anders Andersson wrote: >> I found that ndc(8) man page is a little wrong, for example >> >> 'stats Causes named to dump its statistics to /var/tmp/named.stats' >> >> is not correct, since named.stats get dumped to /etc/namedb/named.stats. >> >> This also applies for /var/tmp/named_dump.db, that one goes also in >> /etc/namedb. > >Guys, before we fix the manpage on this, could someone please follow >this up with -hackers? I was under the impression (but could be wrong) >that programs weren't meant to do this sort of thing in /etc (or >subdirectories of /etc) and that /var/ is the best place for them. They shouldn't. That's what we have /var for like you said. I do remember seeing something about dumps on one of the lists though. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best If I am telling you the Truth now, do you believe it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 5:46:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D8C15096; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 05:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.225.214]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAC481E; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:44:19 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA49035; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:26:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:26:10 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Mike Pritchard Cc: Alexey Zelkin , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Propose mdoc fix regarding ERRORS section Message-ID: <19990829142610.C47956@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19990828212130.A6853@scorpion.crimea.ua> <199908282135.QAA00714@mpp.pro-ns.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199908282135.QAA00714@mpp.pro-ns.net> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Mike Pritchard (mpp@FreeBSD.org) [990829 02:16]: >> On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 02:29:08AM -0500, Mike Pritchard wrote: >> > >> > I propose that we fix mdoc to allocate enough width when the second >> > form is specified, and then change all of the man pages to use that >> > format in the ERRORS section. > >> I think second way is better. I am going to remake my patch. >> As first step I did this patch. I used 15 because error name EADDRNOTAVAIL >> is longest error name I've found. (yes, I know that length is >> 13, but we also need some space between columns) > >The longest errno's are 15 characters in lenght (EPROTONOSUPPORT), >so Er should use width 17. I'll format some man pages using this >and see how they look. Btw, a question related to the mdoc consistency. Do we know where those spurious empty lines come from? Or is this a problem with {n|t|g}roff? The 17 char width for Er sounds good btw. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Millions for defense but not one cent for tribute. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 6:59:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FC914EA1 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA79759; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:33:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:33:54 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Makoto MATSUSHITA Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Japanese FAQ on the Web is broken Message-ID: <19990829143354.F75050@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990826211830.C86126@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990827103938O.matusita@matatabi.or.jp> <19990827121439.D15526@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990829010531E.matusita@matatabi.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990829010531E.matusita@matatabi.or.jp>; from Makoto MATSUSHITA on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 01:05:31AM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 01:05:31AM +0900, Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote: > > nik> Can you be more specific about the ones that aren't correct? > > Just a example: > > In Item 7 (What is the FreeBSD-stable concept?), ascii figure of the > FreeBSD history is broken (Maybe indent characters are changed to > unexpected characters). OK, I see what you mean. That's because the underlying text in the document is wrong -- this is a hang over from the LinuxDoc to DocBook conversion which hasn't been fixed yet. If you look at the English version you'll see the same problem, so this is nothing to do with the English translation, per se. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 7: 0:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052C514F3C; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA79274; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:30:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:30:00 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Mike Pritchard Cc: Alexey Zelkin , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Propose mdoc fix regarding ERRORS section Message-ID: <19990829143000.E75050@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990828212130.A6853@scorpion.crimea.ua> <199908282135.QAA00714@mpp.pro-ns.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199908282135.QAA00714@mpp.pro-ns.net>; from Mike Pritchard on Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 04:35:15PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 04:35:15PM -0500, Mike Pritchard wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 02:29:08AM -0500, Mike Pritchard wrote: > > > > > > I propose that we fix mdoc to allocate enough width when the second > > > form is specified, and then change all of the man pages to use that > > > format in the ERRORS section. > > > I think second way is better. I am going to remake my patch. > > As first step I did this patch. I used 15 because error name EADDRNOTAVAIL > > is longest error name I've found. (yes, I know that length is > > 13, but we also need some space between columns) > > The longest errno's are 15 characters in lenght (EPROTONOSUPPORT), > so Er should use width 17. I'll format some man pages using this > and see how they look. Chaps, in all this, are we actually sure that the change is necessary? This is quite a big change to ensure that things like ... [EBADF] D is not a valid file or socket descriptor open for reading. [EFAULT] Buf points outside the allocated address space. [EWORLDCOLLAPSINGAROUNDYOU] The world is collapsing around your ears. Run for the hills. ... don't occur. And presumably we would need to redo this change every time a longer error message is introduced. Is the last example above (where the error value forces the description down a line or too) so horrible that we need to 'fix' it? I don't really care (and I don't have to do any of the work :-) ) but it does strike me as being quite a big change for a small amount of visible effect. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 7: 1: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E21814F3C for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA25733; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:00:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908291400.HAA25733@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/13441: incorrect path in SGML_CATALOG_FILES env variable Reply-To: Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13441; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton To: efrias@sg505.net Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/13441: incorrect path in SGML_CATALOG_FILES env variable Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:21:45 +0100 On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:29:55AM -0700, efrias@sg505.net wrote: > >Fix: > $SGML_ROOT/docbook on my system contains subdirectories for each version: > 2.4.1, 3.0, 3.1, and dsssl. SGML_CATALOG_FILES should be pointed at > ${SGML_ROOT}/docbook/3.1/catalog, or perhaps add a line for each versions. Hmm. The post-install target of the textproc/docbook port (which is a meta-port, which exists just to install all the others for you) builds this catalog file. It might make more sense if the individual docbook-* ports appended to this file in their post-install target, and removed their entries when they are pkg_delete'ed. Suggestions for the best way to do this would be appreciated. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 7: 2:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB7214EA1; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA77837; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:18:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:18:37 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: hoek@freebsd.org Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DocBook formatting style? Message-ID: <19990829141837.B75050@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990823172005.C42397@ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com> <19990824172812.L65430@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <199908250049.JAA00382@rei.snipe.rim.or.jp> <19990825115510.A96398@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990825194348.G18970@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> <19990826111447.C66300@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990826141141.F24968@futuresouth.com> <19990827105043.A15526@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990828145129.A5750@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990828103736.C49983@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990828103736.C49983@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com>; from Tim Vanderhoek on Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:37:36AM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:37:36AM -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 02:51:29PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > problem above. And, with an eye to the future, while we're not using XML > > now, I wouldn't be surprised if it played a much more significant role in > > our documentation tool set in 12-18 months time. > > What are the advantages of XML? Everyone's using it, basically. XML is SGML with bits cut out of it, to make it easier to write parsers for, so that those parsers can then be embedded in to web browsers. You can, currently, convert SGML documents to equivalent XML documents mechanically -- if you've got Jade installed then take a look at 'sx', and /usr/local/share/doc/jade/sx.html. XML has different formatting mechanisms than SGML -- SGML has DSSSL, which is a (lisp|scheme) like language, an implementation of which is in Jade. XML has XSL, the XML Style Language, which is used to produce formatted output for things like Postscript, and XSLT, the XML Style Transformation Language, which is used to transform documents from one DTD to another (e.g., transformaing a DocBook document to an HTML document). Parsers for either of these formatting languages are still in their infancy, and most of them are written in Java. I'm trying to scrounge the time to experiment with lotusxsl (it's in the ports tree) and a Python implemented Palm Pilot Document XML stylesheet -- the idea being that you could convert from DocBook straight to an XML implementation of the Palm Pilot documentation format, and then convert this to the Pilot Document format -- another approach (see the recent PR, which I'll be committing shortly) is to go from DocBook -> HTML -> Text -> pilot-makedoc. Somewhat more convoluted, but it works out of the box now. We currently use some of the things in SGML that aren't in XML (see, for example, marked sections, in the FDP Primer), so we won't be cutting over to XML in the near future. However, in the distant future (which might be a year, 18 months, or 3 years, I don't really know) we may well switch to XML, depending on the toolset. Or, we might be able to stick with SGML indefinitely, and when we need to use XML processing tools we run our docs through 'sx' (or an equivalent program) first. This is really too far off to be able to make accurate predictions. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 7: 2:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B9D14EA1; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA76793; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:10:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:10:04 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Dan Langille Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Supporting non-DocBook documents in the tree Message-ID: <19990829141004.A75050@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990827132242.A26830@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990828104217.PUYK3442178.mta1-rme@wocker> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990828104217.PUYK3442178.mta1-rme@wocker>; from Dan Langille on Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:37:40PM +1200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:37:40PM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > > I get the impression that we're currently viewed as being a bit > > inflexible about the formats that we accept documentation in, and that even > > when we do accept submissions, it takes us a while to get around to > > converting them to DocBook. This is mostly due to lack of manpower. > > What is the main reason for using DocBook as opposed to some other format? The competing formats are basically: Plain text: Very easy to use, because everyone can understand it. But, pretty-printing it is nigh on impossible, can't be adapted to different output formats to take advantage of their capabilities, no hyper-linking. HTML: Also easy to use, the de-facto web standard, and most people know it. As with text, it's difficult to convert it to other formats, and keep the formatting (compare the formatting similarities between the HTML, PS, and RTF versions of the Handbook for an example of what I mean). Doesn't encourage a 'house style' for things like examples that the reader should be entering. You need to have an editor for that. LaTeX: Big. Geared towards Postscript and PDF output. Tricky to learn for your average HTML user (I include myself in this). Processing tools are big. LinuxDoc: SGML DTD (like HTML, so it looks a bit like HTML). Based heavily on LaTeX, which means that, like, HTML, it concentrates on describing what something should look like, rather than what something is. Being phased out by the Linux Documentation Project, in favour of. . . DocBook: Originally created by O'Reilly and HALS, now maintained by the Davenport group. Relatively easy for an HTML or LinuxDoc user to use, as it's just a different set of elements, and their relationships to one another. The toolchain is still relatively young. *Very* geared towards describing technical markup, which means the markup job is actually easier than something like LinuxDoc -- with LinuxDoc (or HTML, for that matter) you end up thinking "Hmm, this is a filename. Italic? Bold? Courier?". With DocBook you end up thinking "Hmm, this is a filename. That'll be the element then.". LinuxDoc documents can be mechanically converted to DocBook (they require some tidying up afterwards though). A very *rich* element set makes it easy to capture lots of useful information, which can be removed as necessary if the target format doesn't need it. For historical accuracy, the real person to ask about this is John Fieber, who was the FDP manager before me. He'd already started the switch to DocBook in the FDP before I became interested in it, and I started using it to support the internal documentation at the company I was working for at the time. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 7: 9:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D89152DD; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp374.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.74]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id XAA04504; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:08:36 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.1) with ESMTP id XAA04756; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:08:35 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:08:07 +0900 Message-ID: <14281.16071.926203.50116H@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Nik Clayton Cc: Documentation Team Subject: More safer 'cd's? User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When I test building documentations in "English and Japanese" only environment, I sometimes failed because not to set WEB_LANG like environment variables. Can you accept patches like this to change directories more safely? ----- Index: web.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/web.mk,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.21 web.mk --- web.mk 1999/08/19 20:40:26 1.21 +++ web.mk 1999/08/29 13:55:34 @@ -173,14 +173,14 @@ .if defined(SUBDIR) && !empty(SUBDIR) @for entry in ${SUBDIR}; do \ (${ECHODIR} "===> ${DIRPRFX}$$entry"; \ - cd ${.CURDIR}/$${entry}; \ + cd ${.CURDIR}/$${entry} && \ ${MAKE} ${.TARGET:S/realinstall/install/:S/.depend/depend/} DIRPRFX=${DIRPRFX}$$entry/); \ done .endif .if defined(DOCSUBDIR) && !empty(DOCSUBDIR) @for entry in ${DOCSUBDIR}; do \ (${ECHODIR} "===> ${DIRPRFX}$$entry"; \ - cd ${.CURDIR}/$${entry}; \ + cd ${.CURDIR}/$${entry} && \ if [ ${WEBDIR} = "data" -a $$entry = "handbook" -o $$entry = "docproj-primer" ]; then \ ${MAKE} ${.TARGET:S/realinstall/install/:S/.depend/depend/} DIRPRFX=${DIRPRFX}$$entry/ ${PARAMS} FORMATS="txt html html-split"; \ elif [ $$entry = "handbook" -a ${WEBDIR} = "data/ja" ]; then \ Index: FAQ/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/FAQ/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/19 20:45:50 1.1 +++ Makefile 1999/08/28 02:19:30 @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ # in to the right place as necessary. all install clean: - (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq; make 'FORMATS=html-split html' DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}/data/FAQ ${.TARGET}) + (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq && make 'FORMATS=html-split html' DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}/data/FAQ ${.TARGET}) .if make(install) (cd ${DESTDIR}/data/FAQ; ln -sf index.html FAQ.html) .endif Index: handbook/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/handbook/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/19 20:40:58 1.2 +++ Makefile 1999/08/28 02:19:53 @@ -15,4 +15,4 @@ # all install clean: - (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook; make FORMATS=html-split DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}/data/handbook ${.TARGET}) + (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook && make FORMATS=html-split DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}/data/handbook ${.TARGET}) Index: tutorials/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/tutorials/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/19 20:49:29 1.1 +++ Makefile 1999/08/28 02:20:19 @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ DOCS = index.sgml all afterinstall clean: index.html - (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles; make 'FORMATS=html html-split' 'DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}/data/tutorials/$${.CURDIR:T}' ${.TARGET:S/afterinstall/install/}) - (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer; make 'FORMATS=html html-split' DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}/data/tutorials/docproj-primer ${.TARGET:S/afterinstall/install/}) + (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles && make 'FORMATS=html html-split' 'DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}/data/tutorials/$${.CURDIR:T}' ${.TARGET:S/afterinstall/install/}) + (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer && make 'FORMATS=html html-split' DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}/data/tutorials/docproj-primer ${.TARGET:S/afterinstall/install/}) .include "../web.mk" ----- Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 7:10: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E99E14F15 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA51104; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908291410.HAA51104@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/13442: docproj-primer does not mention where to get docbook extensions Reply-To: Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13442; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton To: efrias@sg505.net Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/13442: docproj-primer does not mention where to get docbook extensions Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:24:43 +0100 On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:31:36AM -0700, efrias@sg505.net wrote: > >Description: > Chapter 4 of Docproj-primer mentions using the FreeBSD extensions to DocBook, > "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN", but never mentions > where to find these. The extensions were not installed as part of the > textproj/docproj port, and it was not obvious where to find them. Ah. That's because they're not in any port, they're part of the FreeBSD Documentation Project tree, which is the doc/ directory tree. I'm loathe to pull them out of there, because then a) other members of the FDP can't commit changes to them as necessary. b) we lose the publically visible CVS commit log and diffs as they are altered. This could, presumably be fixed by either updating the documentation to say this, or create a freebsd-docbook port that just grabs the files from wcarchive, or similar, and splats them in to the right place in the directory tree. However, the FDP would still use the ones in doc/share/sgml. Thoughts? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 8:13:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEC615157 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA71138; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908291510.IAA71138@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Steve Price Subject: Re: bin/12767: Expand /etc/ttys manpage (fwd) Reply-To: Steve Price Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR bin/12767; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Steve Price To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: bin/12767: Expand /etc/ttys manpage (fwd) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:03:42 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:30:38 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: gnats@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bin/12767: Expand /etc/ttys manpage Whilst I'm on the topic, having finished my study of init's behaviour, I'd also like to see something like the following (this'll save the next poor sod having to RTSL to confirm this behaviour): Index: libexec/getty/ttys.5 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/libexec/getty/ttys.5,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -r1.9 ttys.5 --- ttys.5 1997/11/21 07:43:53 1.9 +++ ttys.5 1999/07/23 04:26:46 @@ -59,6 +59,11 @@ The first field is the name of the terminal special file as it is found in .Pa /dev . +If there is no matching entry in +.Pa /dev , +the command will be started anyway - this can be used to keep critical +daemons running in a similar manner to the System 5 +.Pa /etc/inittab . .Pp The second field of the file is the command to execute for the line, usually Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 9:33:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669D514BD0 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:33:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.3/frmug-2.5/nospam) with UUCP id SAA25890 for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:33:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id 8EA9D870A; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:28:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:28:51 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: FreeBSD documentation list Subject: Documentation in HTML Message-ID: <19990829182851.A87632@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD documentation list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.95.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#5543 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello -doc people, I've almost finished contrib-ification of the current version of ntpd (ntp-4.0.97). The main problem I have is that there are no manpages anymore and everything is in HTML :-( I'm not sure about what to do ? 1.- remove the xntp* manpages and do nothing 2.- remove the xntp* manpages and install the HTML files (where?) 3.- write skeleton manpages for the commands (ntp*) pointing to the HTML files (where ? In contrib ? In another place cf. 2) Any idea ? -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #73: Sat Jul 31 15:36:05 CEST 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 9:45:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4FC14E8C for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:45:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02497 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:28:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:28:39 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [deb@thepuffingroup.com: FreeBSD Doc Project] Message-ID: <19990829172839.H73673@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -doc, I received the following message very recently, and Deb's given me permission to forward it on the -doc list at large. This obviously reflects very well on every single contributor to the FDP. In the day to day grind of maintaining and extending the FDP I think it's all too easy to lose site of the quality of work that everyone's put in to this project over the years, and messages like this are a nice way of reminding ourselves how valuable and appreciated our efforts are. On a related note, I'd encourage everyone to go and read the OSWG web site (URL's at the bottom of Deb's message) and if possible sign up the mailing list. It's an attempt to bring the various documentation projects closer together, and to act as a meeting point for authors and readers of all the different *DPs to share ideas. Cheers, N ----- Forwarded message from Deb Richardson ----- Delivered-To: nik@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:39:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Deb Richardson To: nik@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Doc Project Hi Nik. I've been poking around the FDP a bit. I just wanted to say that I think you guys have done a fantastic job with that project, particularly with the way it's organized and maintained. The project is approachable, there's lots of information on the site about how people can get involved, what they can do, and how they can do it. Etc. I wish the LDP would take a lesson from the FDP. Thanks, btw, for mentioning the FreeBSD Documentation Project Primer on the OSWG list. The chapter on DocBook is the clearest presentation of that information I've been able to find. The Project Primer, as a whole, is very much like what I was envisioning when I mentioned the "New Contributor's Guide" on the OSWG list. I wish I had seen your Primer at that point, because I would have added a link to it as reference. As always, if there's anything the OSWG can do to help you guys out, let me know. - deb -- == Open Source Writers Group (OSWG) == http://www.thepuffingroup.com/oswg == deb@thepuffingroup.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 9:50:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF6314EAC for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:50:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05227; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:50:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:50:12 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Ollivier Robert Cc: FreeBSD documentation list Subject: Re: Documentation in HTML Message-ID: <19990829175012.A83173@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990829182851.A87632@keltia.freenix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990829182851.A87632@keltia.freenix.fr>; from Ollivier Robert on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 06:28:51PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 06:28:51PM +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: > I've almost finished contrib-ification of the current version of ntpd > (ntp-4.0.97). The main problem I have is that there are no manpages anymore > and everything is in HTML :-( > > I'm not sure about what to do ? > > 1.- remove the xntp* manpages and do nothing > > 2.- remove the xntp* manpages and install the HTML files (where?) > > 3.- write skeleton manpages for the commands (ntp*) pointing to the > HTML files (where ? In contrib ? In another place cf. 2) > > Any idea ? The HTML should be installed in to /usr/local/share/doc/ntp I think (possible /usr/local/share/doc/ntp-4.0.97 if it's likely that more than one version will ever be installed at the same time). Man pages for each of the commands just pointing to the HTML documentation would be very useful, I think, but not essential. Just my 2c. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 10:21:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5B61576D; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.3/frmug-2.5/nospam) with UUCP id TAA28073; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:21:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id D899E870A; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:10:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:10:21 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: Nik Clayton Cc: FreeBSD documentation list Subject: Re: Documentation in HTML Message-ID: <19990829191021.B89688@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Nik Clayton , FreeBSD documentation list References: <19990829182851.A87632@keltia.freenix.fr> <19990829175012.A83173@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <19990829175012.A83173@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 05:50:12PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#5543 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Nik Clayton: > The HTML should be installed in to /usr/local/share/doc/ntp I think > (possible /usr/local/share/doc/ntp-4.0.97 if it's likely that more than > one version will ever be installed at the same time). Note: this is not a port. ntpd will be put in /usr/src/contrib so I guess the right directory is /usr/share/doc/ntp. > Man pages for each of the commands just pointing to the HTML documentation > would be very useful, I think, but not essential. OK. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #73: Sat Jul 31 15:36:05 CEST 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 10:50: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED3F150E3 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:50:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA09259; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC43150E3 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:42:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28116; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:42:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908291742.NAA28116@germanium.xtalwind.net> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:42:24 -0400 (EDT) From: jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Reply-To: jack@germanium.xtalwind.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13457: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml won't build Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13457 >Category: docs >Synopsis: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml won't build >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 29 10:50:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Three tags before a makes the build fail. >How-To-Repeat: cd /usr/doc && make >Fix: --- chapter.sgml.orig Sun Aug 29 11:54:36 1999 +++ chapter.sgml Sun Aug 29 13:12:33 1999 @@ -3450,7 +3450,7 @@ 3.2-STABLE after binary-incompatible IPFW and socket changes 320002 - + 4.0-CURRENT after 3/4 branch >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 11:28:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E50515288; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA11672; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908291825.LAA11672@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jack@germanium.xtalwind.net, jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13457: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml won't build Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml won't build State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: jhb State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 29 11:24:58 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: I'm looking at it. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jhb Responsible-Changed-By: jhb Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Aug 29 11:24:58 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take thsi one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 13:37:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from maildns2.fsbdial.co.uk (s24.athenenet.co.uk [195.89.137.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C0F1514C for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:37:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frankrj@netscape.net) Received: from [212.1.153.46] by maildns2.freenet.co.uk (NTMail 4.30.0012/NT0619.00.9914eb79) with ESMTP id jdzjoaaa for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:34:57 +0100 Message-ID: <37C99A41.86B7C53@netscape.net> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:38:26 +0100 From: Francis Jordan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Questions about docs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have several questions: 1) Is there a way to only cvsup the docs written in English? When I use the doc-all target, I also get Japanese, Chinese, Spanish and Russian, and I don't wany any of those languages. The handbook doesn't list any other targets apart from doc-all. Shouldn't there also be doc-en, doc-jp, doc-ru, etc? 2) make install in /usr/doc defaults to /usr/local/share/doc/fdp. Shouldn't it instead update the docs in /usr/share/doc/{handbook,FAQ}? The stuff that goes into /usr/share/doc is created when the system is first installed and never gets updated. 3) The man pages. They are normally installed by making the world in /usr/src; yet, somehow "make world" also installs the Japanese pages in /usr/share/man/jp/{man?,cat?}. What are the Japanese man pages doing in /usr/share/man? Why Japanese? How comes there are no Russian pages in /usr/share/man/ru or Spanish pages in /usr/share/man/es? Shouldn't they be in some other location, like /usr/share/jp/man where they can be disabled? I don't speak Japanese and don't want any Japanese stuff. Similarly, Japanese folks probably wouldn't want the docs written in Spanish or Russian. Finally, what's the story with es, ru, jp and zh? Where's French, German and other European languages? I'm pretty sure I've heard of a "French documentation project" - so where are the docs? Thanks for your attention Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 13:44:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ppp1-cergy.isdnet.net (ppp7-cergy.isdnet.net [194.149.184.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E78151BC for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:44:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@ppp1-cergy.isdnet.net) Received: (from robert@localhost) by ppp1-cergy.isdnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01366 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:42:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from robert) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:42:12 +0200 From: Robert Brive To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DocBook formatting style? Message-ID: <19990829224211.D740@ppp1-cergy.isdnet.net> References: <19990822200737.A65807@ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com> <19990823141611.A1770@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990823172005.C42397@ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com> <19990824172812.L65430@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <199908250049.JAA00382@rei.snipe.rim.or.jp> <19990825115510.A96398@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990825194348.G18970@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> <19990826111447.C66300@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <19990826111447.C66300@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 11:14:47AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 11:14:47AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > For all the hype about open standards, getting a program to work on > different versions of Unix in the real world can be a tedious and tricky > business, as anyone who has tried it will know. > You may be lucky enough to find that the program you want will compile > cleanly on your system, install itself in all the right places and run > flawlessly “out of the box”, but this is unfortunately > rather rare. > With most programs, you will find yourself doing a fair bit of > head-scratching, and there are quite a few programs that will result > in premature greying, or even chronic alopecia... > ... This second form (with at the end of a line) is much easier for translations and the correction of the first translations: we can better see, phrase by phrase, the two versions (english and translation). It helps (visual) synchronization. So, if it has no impact on the final formatting, I prefer the last form. -- Robert Brive To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 13:57: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from logatome.micronet.fr (logatome-2.francenet.fr [193.149.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6134C1518C for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:57:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Sebastien.Gioria@FranceNet.fr) Received: from gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (eku28.dialup.francenet.fr [193.149.106.173] (may be forged)) by logatome.micronet.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15290; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:54:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (Postfix, from userid 42) id B69D51FE5F; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:56:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19990829225654.A6852@FranceNet.fr> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:56:54 +0200 From: Sebastien GIORIA To: Francis Jordan , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about docs Reply-To: Sebastien GIORIA References: <37C99A41.86B7C53@netscape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <37C99A41.86B7C53@netscape.net>; from Francis Jordan on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 09:38:26PM +0100 Operating-System: Definitely FreeBSD Function: Security Administrator X-NCC-RegID: fr.francenet X-Work-Organization: FranceNet X-Work-Postal-Address: 28 Rue Desaix , 75015 Paris, France, Terre X-Home-Organization: French FreeBSD Documentation Project X-Home-Postal-Address: 32 Rue Baron Le Roy, 75012 Paris, France, Terre X-Operating-System: FreeBSD-STABLE + PAO enabled X-URL-Home: http://www.FreeBSD-fr.org X-URL-Work: http://www.FranceNet.fr Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 09:38:26PM +0100, the keyboard of Francis Jordan write: frankrj > Finally, what's the story with es, ru, jp and zh? Where's French, frankrj > German and other European languages? I'm pretty sure I've heard of a frankrj > "French documentation project" - so where are the docs? There're on http://www.FreeBSD-fr.org. This docs will appear shortly in the CVS tree. Feel, to contact us if you want more informations about French documentations project. S. -- FranceNet Security Administrator Sebastien.Gioria@FranceNet.fr French FreeBSD Documentation Project gioria@FreeBSD.org Tout FreeBSD en Francais http://www.FreeBSD-fr.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 15: 4:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server0.screaming.net (server0.screaming.net [212.49.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB1B1516C for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ron@williamsj3.screaming.net) Received: from williamsj3 (dyn109-ras13.screaming.net [212.49.236.109]) by server0.screaming.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA25205 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:17:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bef26a$4c4e2f00$0100a8c0@williamsj3> From: "screaming.net" To: Subject: link Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:02:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF272.A1D46F40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF272.A1D46F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First link on the tutorials page is not working the :For People New to = Both FreeBSD and Unix link ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF272.A1D46F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF272.A1D46F40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 15:25:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A11F15839 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07016; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (hC6524392.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22817; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908292225.SAA22817@sable.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000801bef26a$4c4e2f00$0100a8c0@williamsj3> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:25:02 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "screaming.net" Subject: RE: link Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 29-Aug-99 screaming.net wrote: > First link on the tutorials page is not working the :For People New > to Both FreeBSD and Unix link Fixed, thanks! Index: index.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/tutorials/index.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 index.sgml --- index.sgml 1999/08/24 03:12:23 1.2 +++ index.sgml 1999/08/29 22:22:28 @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org.

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    • --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 15:38:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766A315165 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:38:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08211; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (hC6524392.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16447; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908292238.SAA16447@sable.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199908292225.SAA22817@sable.cc.vt.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:38:26 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: link Cc: "screaming.net" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 29-Aug-99 John Baldwin wrote: > > On 29-Aug-99 screaming.net wrote: >> First link on the tutorials page is not working the :For People New >> to Both FreeBSD and Unix link > > Fixed, thanks! > > Index: index.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/tutorials/index.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.2 > diff -u -r1.2 index.sgml > --- index.sgml 1999/08/24 03:12:23 1.2 > +++ index.sgml 1999/08/29 22:22:28 > @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ > href="mailto:freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org.

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      • Talk about dumb.. it is really fixed this time (supposed to new-users). --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 15:58: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id B4E5D14CFC; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1E71CD5AF for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:57:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:57:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Manual pages for 3.2 on website Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The website at http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html#man only lists manual pages up to 3.1 (i.e. no 3.2). Should I send-pr this? Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 16:12:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sand4.global.net.uk (sand4.global.net.uk [194.126.80.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C04614BE1 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:12:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from pb8s10a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.218.185] helo=marder-1.) by sand4.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11LE7a-0002Pg-00; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:12:23 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id XAA00415; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:59:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:59:35 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Francis Jordan Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about docs Message-ID: <19990829235935.A265@marder-1> References: <37C99A41.86B7C53@netscape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <37C99A41.86B7C53@netscape.net>; from Francis Jordan on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 09:38:26PM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 09:38:26PM +0100, Francis Jordan wrote: > I have several questions: > > 1) Is there a way to only cvsup the docs written in English? When I > use the doc-all target, I also get Japanese, Chinese, Spanish and > Russian, and I don't wany any of those languages. The handbook doesn't > list any other targets apart from doc-all. Shouldn't there also be > doc-en, doc-jp, doc-ru, etc? > You chose a good time to ask this as I've just sorted it all out myself. Put a file called "refuse" in /usr/sup containing: doc/es* doc/ja* doc/ru* doc/zh* > 2) make install in /usr/doc defaults to /usr/local/share/doc/fdp. > Shouldn't it instead update the docs in /usr/share/doc/{handbook,FAQ}? > The stuff that goes into /usr/share/doc is created when the system is > first installed and never gets updated. > No, it's changed with the new format docs. You'll find them in /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/{faq,handbook} > 3) The man pages. They are normally installed by making the world in > /usr/src; yet, somehow "make world" also installs the Japanese pages in > /usr/share/man/jp/{man?,cat?}. What are the Japanese man pages doing in > /usr/share/man? Why Japanese? How comes there are no Russian pages in > /usr/share/man/ru or Spanish pages in /usr/share/man/es? Shouldn't they > be in some other location, like /usr/share/jp/man where they can be > disabled? > > I don't speak Japanese and don't want any Japanese stuff. Similarly, > Japanese folks probably wouldn't want the docs written in Spanish or > Russian. > > Finally, what's the story with es, ru, jp and zh? Where's French, > German and other European languages? I'm pretty sure I've heard of a > "French documentation project" - so where are the docs? > > Thanks for your attention > > Frank > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > -- STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 29 17:52: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4690B14DE4 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:51:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA47941; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 5F21614DE4; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990830004723.5F21614DE4@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:47:23 -0700 (PDT) From: kris@freebsd.org To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/13462: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html refers to 2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13462 >Category: docs >Synopsis: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html refers to 2.2 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 29 17:50:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kris Kennaway >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The page http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html refers to "if you are using a previous release of 2.2". This should be changed to be version-neutral (e.g. "previous release of FreeBSD") or hooked into a global version variable so it is automatically updated. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 30 3:35: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from terrapin.ru.ac.za (terrapin.ru.ac.za [146.231.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BAD152BB for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 03:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org) Received: from duca.dialup.ru.ac.za ([146.231.98.24] helo=mithrandr.moria.org) by terrapin.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11LOm5-000NmH-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:34:54 +0200 Received: (qmail 52696 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Aug 1999 20:09:48 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:09:48 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: A new way to determine LANGCODE Message-ID: <19990829220948.A52645@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Organization: Rhodes University Computer Users' Society X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Just a quickie - We can use: .if !defined(LANGCODE) LANGCODE:= ${.CURDIR} .for _ in 1 2 3 4 5 .if !(${LANGCODE:H:T} == "doc") LANGCODE:= ${LANGCODE:H} .endif .endfor LANGCODE:= ${LANGCODE:T} .endif Instead of: LANGCODE:= ${.CURDIR} .for _ in 1 2 LANGCODE:= ${LANGCODE:H} .endfor LANGCODE:= ${LANGCODE:T} To allow for depths besides two. It works fine, except in the case of being in "doc/" itself, where it returns ".", and that it relies on the top-level directory being called "doc". It uses a maximum of 5 levels, which is easily adjusted. We also hint that if the user sets LANGCODE on the command line, we respect it, but we don't in the original. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 30 4:18:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE47150ED for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:18:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA40447; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:10:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:10:48 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Francis Jordan Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about docs Message-ID: <19990830121048.A38543@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <37C99A41.86B7C53@netscape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37C99A41.86B7C53@netscape.net>; from Francis Jordan on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 09:38:26PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Francis, I see that others have answered some of your questions, so I'll just answer the others. On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 09:38:26PM +0100, Francis Jordan wrote: > 2) make install in /usr/doc defaults to /usr/local/share/doc/fdp. > Shouldn't it instead update the docs in /usr/share/doc/{handbook,FAQ}? > The stuff that goes into /usr/share/doc is created when the system is > first installed and never gets updated. /usr/local/share/doc/fdp was a short lived experiment, and since last week the docs have installed under /usr/share/doc, and then another subdir showing the language and encoding. If you update your installed copy of the docs you should find it works as expected. > 3) The man pages. They are normally installed by making the world in > /usr/src; yet, somehow "make world" also installs the Japanese pages in > /usr/share/man/jp/{man?,cat?}. What are the Japanese man pages doing in > /usr/share/man? Historical accident, I suspect. IMHO, it should really by something like /usr/share/man.ja_JP.eucJP (and, for that matter, the English ones should be in /usr/share/man.en_US.ISO_8859-1, with /usr/share/man being a symlink to the appropriate directory). > Why Japanese? How comes there are no Russian pages in > /usr/share/man/ru or Spanish pages in /usr/share/man/es? The Japanese translation team is the only one to translate the manual pages to their language at the moment. None of the other translation teams have. In a project like this you take what you can get. > Finally, what's the story with es, ru, jp and zh? Where's French, > German and other European languages? I'm pretty sure I've heard of a > "French documentation project" - so where are the docs? The French docs will be imported into the tree 'soon'. I've had French docs ready for the tree for about 4 or 5 months, and held off importing them because of the up-coming doc/ repository changes. There was no point in importing them just before the change, only to have them move around the tree, and at the time I thought the change would take considerably less time than it eventually did. Currently, I'm liasing with Sebastian Gioria, who is my contact with the French documentation project, waiting to hear the final word back from him that my infrastructure changes to their documentation don't cause them any problems. Once I hear back from him about this doc/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1 will be imported very quickly. As for German and the other European languages, I haven't heard from the respective translation teams about importing their work in to the CVS tree. But it's a good point, and I'll be e-mailing the different teams about this now. Thanks for bringing it up. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 30 4:30:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87211152BD for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:30:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA96717; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AB1150ED for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:25:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from p1fs13a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.221.32] helo=marder-1.) by sand2.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11LPYi-0002HR-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:25:08 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id MAA00825; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:09:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Message-Id: <199908301109.MAA00825@marder-1.> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:09:04 +0100 (BST) From: mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org Reply-To: mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13465: Fix typos in the Documentation Primer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13465 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Fix typos in the Documentation Primer >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Aug 30 04:30:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Ovens mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Fix a couple of typos in section 4.2.4.2 of the Documentation Project Primer. A tag is ended with </para> Also, just to be pedantic, although Nik is English the example text is from the US Constitution so "defence" should be "defense". >How-To-Repeat: Read the FDP Primer >Fix: *** doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-markup/chapter.sgml.orig Mon Aug 30 11:33:09 1999 --- doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-markup/chapter.sgml Mon Aug 30 11:33:51 1999 *************** *** 978,990 **** <![ CDATA [<para>A small excerpt from the US Constitution;</para> <blockquote> ! <title>Preamble to the Constitution of the United States</para> <attribution>Copied from a web site somewhere</attribution> <para>We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the ! common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.</para> </blockquote>]]></programlisting> --- 978,990 ---- <![ CDATA [<para>A small excerpt from the US Constitution;</para> <blockquote> ! <title>Preamble to the Constitution of the United States Copied from a web site somewhere We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the ! common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. ]]> *************** *** 998,1004 **** We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, ! provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. --- 998,1004 ---- We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, ! provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 30 4:57: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62D9152EA; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:57:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA98717; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:55:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908301155.EAA98717@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13465: Fix typos in the Documentation Primer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Fix typos in the Documentation Primer State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jhb State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 30 04:53:22 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: The tag fix was committed, thanks. When the U.S. Constitution was written, the U.S. was still using British English. See http://www.mv.com/users/sos/Constitution.html for the actual text of the Constitution, including the Preamble. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 30 11: 0:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4463115366 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:00:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA82574 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:00:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908301800.LAA82574@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f [1999/08/05] docs/12988 doc [Patch] Fix more occurances of 'sd' in FA o [1999/08/11] docs/13088 doc Handbook lists support for Adaptec 2930, 2 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/06/01] docs/11978 doc timed(8) manpage does not define '-F' swi o [1999/07/22] bin/12767 doc Expand /etc/ttys manpage o [1999/08/04] docs/12951 doc missing link to japanese mailing list gui o [1999/08/04] docs/12969 doc Informacion incorrecta para versiones Fre o [1999/08/08] docs/13034 doc incorrect (old/obsolete) manpage for name o [1999/08/08] docs/13037 doc netstat(1) -a flag with -r is undocumente o [1999/08/11] docs/13079 doc new man page describing timeradd() family o [1999/08/12] docs/13096 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/applications.sgml o [1999/08/13] docs/13116 doc typo in ms(7) o [1999/08/14] docs/13134 doc A typo in ax.4 manual pages o [1999/08/15] docs/13153 doc fdc.4 has typo (a line which begin with ' o [1999/08/17] docs/13194 doc Bad info in handbook/kernelconfig o [1999/08/17] docs/13207 doc Update to the FAQ o [1999/08/17] docs/13210 doc device_add_chils_after.9 is obsolete o [1999/08/18] docs/13222 doc Missing links for {v,}{err,warn}c functio o [1999/08/18] docs/13225 doc fpa.4 seems to be i386 specific and shoul o [1999/08/18] docs/13226 doc alpm.4 has not linked to .../man/man4 o [1999/08/18] docs/13227 doc [PATCH] some staff in .../man/man4/i386 n o [1999/08/18] docs/13229 doc hier.7 is out-of-date o [1999/08/19] docs/13256 doc [PATCH] security.7 style and copyright se o [1999/08/20] docs/13283 doc A macro used in 'asc.4' should be changed o [1999/08/21] docs/13284 doc Allow .Rv macro for man section 7 o [1999/08/21] docs/13289 doc sc is documented, but manpage not present o [1999/08/23] docs/13333 doc remove rtld(1) XREF in dlopen.3 o [1999/08/23] misc/13341 doc FAQ 8.7 addition - booting drive 1 from N o [1999/08/24] docs/13345 doc obj-related DOC_PREFIX? changes o [1999/08/24] docs/13354 doc URL corrections for www/en/gallery/galler o [1999/08/24] docs/13356 doc Corrections to www/en/gallery/gallery.db o [1999/08/25] docs/13379 doc add obj'ability to doc build o [1999/08/25] docs/13384 doc Minor omission in the chapter 'Backups' o o [1999/08/26] docs/13403 doc FAQ update for memory limits o [1999/08/26] docs/13406 doc ctime(3) has one grammar errors and one s o [1999/08/27] docs/13408 doc diffbusrt.1 has style inconsistences o [1999/08/27] docs/13409 doc -mdoc style fix for getopt.1 o [1999/08/27] docs/13411 doc Update book.sgml of en_US.ISO_8859-1/book o [1999/08/28] docs/13436 doc pkg_install staff mdoc(7)'fy and pkg_info o [1999/08/28] docs/13439 doc Update docproj.docbook.mk for palm doc fo o [1999/08/28] docs/13441 doc incorrect path in SGML_CATALOG_FILES env o [1999/08/28] docs/13442 doc docproj-primer does not mention where to o [1999/08/29] docs/13462 doc http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.ht 51 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 30 15: 9:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [195.147.248.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25301158E0 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:09:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from pdcs04a07.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.228.221] helo=marder-1.) by sand.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11LZbm-0008I4-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:08:58 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id XAA00450 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:01:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:01:21 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re-organizing sections in the Handbook Message-ID: <19990830230121.E270@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A quick question. When submitting a PR for the Handbook is it permissible to re-organize the sub-sections, or can this only be changed by people like Nik? I've nearly finished an entry for the (currently) empty section on floppy backups but, to me at least, the section should come after the Tape drives & media especially since the title is "What about backups to floppies?". This would be more logical at the end, e.g.: 9. Backups 9.1. Tape Media 9.2. Backup Programs 9.3. What about backups to floppies? instead of: 9. Backups 9.1. What about backups to floppies? 9.2. Tape Media 9.3. Backup Programs -- STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 30 15:45:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA00152EA for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:45:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24288; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:37:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA53503; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:05:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:05:13 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doc/ will not freeze Message-ID: <19990830200512.A50805@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <37C577381F4.4889ORESAMACHAN@cosmo.jah.ne.jp> <199908261744.CAA15930@tasogare.imasy.or.jp> <14280.49435.897747.165T@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <14280.49435.897747.165T@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 02:11:55PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 02:11:55PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > From: Mitsuru IWASAKI > > BTW, when is the doc code freeze for 3.3-RELEASE? What can we do > > before that? > > Usually, doc tree will not freeze around release because it has no > branch such as RELENG_*. That's true. However, changes to the doc/ tree can interfere with the release building, particularly changes to the make(1) infrastructure. Also, mistaken commits to the content of the documentation can cause the release system to fail as well -- see what happened recently when a new committer forgot to add themselves to the authors.ent file. I think it might be worth having a freeze just to avoid these potential problems. I think the chance of them occuring is small, but it's probably not worth the risk. I'd be interested to hear contrary points of view though. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 3:10:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CA914EB2 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:10:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA01453; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 823D4151DA; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990831100055.823D4151DA@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:00:55 -0700 (PDT) From: phj@cn.FreeBSD.org To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/13490: link of URL incorrectly. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13490 >Category: docs >Synopsis: link of URL incorrectly. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 31 03:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Peng HaiJie >Release: >Organization: TransFar.com >Environment: >Description: In http://mirror.cn.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html link of ftp://ftp.cn.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD is ftp://ftp.cn/FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD ^^^^ error >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: change ftp://ftp.cn/FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD into ftp://ftp.cn.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 3:34:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060AD1536D; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:34:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA03289; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:34:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:34:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908311034.DAA03289@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phj@cn.FreeBSD.org, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13490: link of URL incorrectly. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: link of URL incorrectly. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 31 03:33:28 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.29 of "doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml", thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 4:21:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wantech.se (mail.wantech.se [195.24.162.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88BA315105 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anders@sanyusan.se) Received: (qmail 948 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 11:19:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO enterprise.sanyusan.se) (192.168.103.66) by mail.wantech.se with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 11:19:01 -0000 Received: by enterprise.sanyusan.se (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0027C49082; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:14:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:14:46 +0200 From: Anders Andersson To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ndc(8) Message-ID: <19990831131446.A9275@enterprise.sanyusan.se> References: <19990826100201.A33426@enterprise.sanyusan.se> <19990826212016.D86126@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990829142950.D47956@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <19990829142950.D47956@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai (asmodai@wxs.nl) [990829 14:40]: > They shouldn't. > > That's what we have /var for like you said. OK, I totally agree that named should dump to /var/somegoodpath but this I guess falls out of my own hacking limits. I think we need a desiscion if to move named dumps from /etc/namedb to /var/namedb perhaps. And where does a default named dump it? Any commiter that can decide this? Anders -- Anders Andersson anders@sanyusan.se Sanyusan International AB http://www.sanyusan.se/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 5:44:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from drago.cert.org.tw (drago.cert.org.tw [140.117.100.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1208615509 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@drago.cert.org.tw) Received: from foxfair (foxfair.cc.nsysu.edu.tw [140.117.100.101]) by drago.cert.org.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA08212 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:41:10 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:43:16 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Review plz : PR docs/13411 Message-Id: <37CBCDE429E.129CFOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org doc folks, Can someone take a few minute to review PR docs/13411? This PR corrects some wrong links in DocBook FAQ. I'd be glad to see it close before 3.3-RC comes up. Cheers, -Foxfair. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 5:57:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57062150EE for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA50301; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:58:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37CBCDE429E.129CFOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:58:53 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Foxfair Hu Subject: RE: Review plz : PR docs/13411 Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31-Aug-99 Foxfair Hu wrote: > > doc folks, > > Can someone take a few minute to review PR docs/13411? This PR > corrects some wrong links in DocBook FAQ. I'd be glad to see it close > before 3.3-RC comes up. Replacement of by is already committed: 1.6 Tue Aug 24 19:05:16 1999 UTC by nik I don't see any problem at the other things. Saludos JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 6: 7: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from drago.cert.org.tw (drago.cert.org.tw [140.117.100.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1638E150EE for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:05:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@drago.cert.org.tw) Received: from foxfair (foxfair.cc.nsysu.edu.tw [140.117.100.101]) by drago.cert.org.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA08258; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:02:19 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:04:25 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu To: jesusr@ncsa.es Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Review plz : PR docs/13411 In-Reply-To: References: <37CBCDE429E.129CFOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> Message-Id: <37CBD2D937A.129DFOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:58:53 +0200 (CEST) Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > On 31-Aug-99 Foxfair Hu wrote: > > doc folks, > > Can someone take a few minute to review PR docs/13411? This PR > > corrects some wrong links in DocBook FAQ. I'd be glad to see it close > > before 3.3-RC comes up. > > Replacement of by is already committed: > > 1.6 Tue Aug 24 19:05:16 1999 UTC by nik > > I don't see any problem at the other things. > No, that's not the case. PR docs/13411 modify some wrong line *after* FAQ built. i.e. : http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/preface.html#AEN56 , 2nd paragraph has some weird Q:Q: link. so as http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/preface.html#WHERE-GET http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/install.html#AEN439 http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/install.html#AEN475 .... .... .... and others, blah blah blah... :) If you take an eye on my PR, you will find what I said. > Saludos > JesusR. > > Cheers, -Foxfair. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 6:26: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A5214DF6 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA50723; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:27:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37CBD2D937A.129DFOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:27:27 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Foxfair Hu Subject: Re: Review plz : PR docs/13411 Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31-Aug-99 Foxfair Hu wrote: > No, that's not the case. PR docs/13411 modify some wrong line *after* > FAQ built. i.e. : You are right :) I thought that all had been replaced by . No problem for me... go with patch. Saludos JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 7: 5:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from drago.cert.org.tw (drago.cert.org.tw [140.117.100.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFF715910 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:05:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@drago.cert.org.tw) Received: from foxfair (foxfair.cc.nsysu.edu.tw [140.117.100.101]) by drago.cert.org.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA08362; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:00:15 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:02:21 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu To: jesusr@ncsa.es Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Review plz : PR docs/13411 In-Reply-To: References: <37CBD2D937A.129DFOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> Message-Id: <37CBE06D208.7BEDFOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:27:27 +0200 (CEST) Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > You are right :) > > I thought that all had been replaced by . No problem for me... go > with patch. > Hmm... not to argue too much(We don't need any argument more :-), but as my understood, nik's last commit just fixed the warning messages(ANCHOR XXXXX) while building the FAQ . But nothing was done with the correction of FAQ content. So I send this PR to do it. Please take a look on this PR, and feel free to change the patch. > Saludos > JesusR. > > Cheers, -Foxfair. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 8: 3:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from terrapin.ru.ac.za (terrapin.ru.ac.za [146.231.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5056A14C40 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:03:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org) Received: from duca.dialup.ru.ac.za ([146.231.98.24] helo=mithrandr.moria.org) by terrapin.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11LpR3-000Abm-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:02:58 +0200 Received: (qmail 97363 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Aug 1999 15:02:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:02:14 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: The next exciting installment of docproj.docbook.mk splitting. Message-ID: <19990831170213.A97218@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Organization: Rhodes University Computer Users' Society X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I've received a few hints, and here is my new offering. Stuff added: - Automatic after-install COMPAT_SYMLINK handling - ROOT_SYMLINKS pointing to important documents leads to symlink from DOCDIR to that document (ie, doc/faq to doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq), if we're building the primary language (PRI_LANG) version. - packaging! - package now traverses the tree, creating packages as it goes. Default package location is DOC_PREFIX/packages if it exists, or the current directory if not - last few obj breakages fixed - removed unneeded targets and variables - the return of install as installer (contreversial! *grin*) - and much much more, but if you call in the next 20 minutes, you'll... I've done quite serious testing, with NOINCLUDEMK set and unset, using obj and non-obj, and on all the languages. All this requires a pretty large patch (mostly fixing obj-related stuff), which is also included. Please note I've been pretty inconsistent, so sometimes I put doc.project.mk, and others docproj.docbook.mk - just replace docproj.docbook.mk with: .include "doc.project.mk" whilst testing. Good luck (: Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: doc.docbook.mk Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="doc.docbook.mk" # # $Id$ # # This include file handles building and installing of # DocBook documentation in the FreeBSD Documentation Project. # # Documentation using DOCFORMAT=docbook is expected to be marked up # according to the DocBook DTD # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Document-specific variables # # DOC This should be set to the name of the DocBook # marked-up file, without the .sgml or .docb suffix. # # It also determins the name of the output files - # ${DOC}.html. # # DOCBOOKSUFFIX The suffix of your document, defaulting to .sgml # # SRCS The names of all the files that are needed to # build this document - This is useful if any of # them need to be generated. Changing any file in # SRCS causes the documents to be rebuilt. # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Variables used by both users and documents: # # JADEFLAGS Additional options to pass to Jade. Typically # used to define "IGNORE" entities to "INCLUDE" # with "-i" # # TIDYFLAGS Additional flags to pass to Tidy. Typically # used to set "-raw" flag to handle 8bit characters. # # EXTRA_CATALOGS Additional catalog files that should be used by # any SGML processing applications. # # Documents should use the += format to access these. # MASTERDOC?= ${.CURDIR}/${DOC}.sgml JADE= ${PREFIX}/bin/jade DSLHTML= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl DSLPRINT= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl FREEBSDCATALOG= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/catalog DOCBOOKCATALOG= ${PREFIX}/share/sgml/docbook/catalog JADECATALOG= ${PREFIX}/share/sgml/jade/catalog DSSSLCATALOG= ${PREFIX}/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog JADEOPTS= ${JADEFLAGS} -c ${FREEBSDCATALOG} -c ${DSSSLCATALOG} -c ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} -c ${JADECATALOG} ${EXTRA_CATALOGS:S/^/-c /g} KNOWN_FORMATS= html html-split html-split.tar txt rtf ps pdf tex dvi tar # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Look at ${FORMATS} and work out which documents need to be generated. # It is assumed that the HTML transformation will always create a file # called index.html, and that for every other transformation the name # of the generated file is ${DOC}.format. # # ${_docs} will be set to a list of all documents that must be made # up to date. # # ${CLEANFILES} is a list of files that should be removed by the "clean" # target. ${COMPRESS_EXT:S/^/${DOC}.${_cf}.&/ takes the COMPRESS_EXT # var, and prepends the filename to each listed extension, building a # second list of files with the compressed extensions added. # # Note: ".for _curformat in ${KNOWN_FORMATS}" is used several times in # this file. I know they could have been rolled together in to one, much # larger, loop. However, that would have made things more complicated # for a newcomer to this file to unravel and understand, and a syntax # error in the loop would have affected the entire # build/compress/install process, instead of just one of them, making it # more difficult to debug. # # Note: It is the aim of this file that *all* the targets be available, # not just those appropriate to the current ${FORMATS} and # ${INSTALL_COMPRESSED} values. # # For example, if FORMATS=html and INSTALL_COMPRESSED=gz you could still # type # # make book.rtf.bz2 # # and it will do the right thing. Or # # make install-rtf.bz2 # # for that matter. But don't expect "make clean" to work if the FORMATS # and INSTALL_COMPRESSED variables are wrong. # .for _curformat in ${FORMATS} _cf=${_curformat} .if ${_cf} == "html-split" _docs+= index.html HTML.manifest CLEANFILES+= `xargs < HTML.manifest` HTML.manifest .elif ${_cf} == "html-split.tar" _docs+= ${DOC}.html-split.tar CLEANFILES+= `xargs < HTML.manifest` HTML.manifest CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.html-split.tar .elif ${_cf} == "html" _docs+= ${DOC}.html CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.html .elif ${_cf} == "txt" _docs+= ${DOC}.txt CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.html ${DOC}.txt .elif ${_cf} == "dvi" _docs+= ${DOC}.dvi CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.aux ${DOC}.dvi ${DOC}.log ${DOC}.tex .elif ${_cf} == "ps" _docs+= ${DOC}.ps CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.aux ${DOC}.dvi ${DOC}.log ${DOC}.tex ${DOC}.ps .elif ${_cf} == "pdf" _docs+= ${DOC}.pdf CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.aux ${DOC}.dvi ${DOC}.log ${DOC}.tex ${DOC}.pdf .elif ${_cf} == "rtf" _docs+= ${DOC}.rtf CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.rtf .elif ${_cf} == "tar" _docs+= ${DOC}.tar CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.tar .elif ${_cf} == "doc" _docs+= ${DOC}.doc CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.doc .endif .endfor # # Build a list of install-${format}.${compress_format} targets to be # by "make install". Also, add ${DOC}.${format}.${compress_format} to # ${_docs} and ${CLEANFILES} so they get built/cleaned by "all" and # "clean". # .if defined(INSTALL_COMPRESSED) && !empty(INSTALL_COMPRESSED) .for _curformat in ${FORMATS} _cf=${_curformat} .for _curcomp in ${INSTALL_COMPRESSED} .if ${_cf} != "html-split" _curinst+= install-${_curformat}.${_curcomp} _docs+= ${DOC}.${_curformat}.${_curcomp} CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.${_curformat}.${_curcomp} .endif .endfor .endfor .endif .MAIN: all all: ${_docs} index.html HTML.manifest: ${SRCS} ${JADE} -V html-manifest -ioutput.html ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLHTML} -t sgml ${MASTERDOC} -tidy -i -m -f /dev/null ${TIDYFLAGS} *.html ${DOC}.html: ${SRCS} ${JADE} -ioutput.html -V nochunks ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLHTML} -t sgml ${MASTERDOC} > ${.TARGET} -tidy -i -m -f /dev/null ${TIDYFLAGS} ${.TARGET} ${DOC}.html-split.tar: HTML.manifest tar cf ${.TARGET} `xargs < HTML.manifest` ${DOC}.txt: ${DOC}.html lynx -nolist -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} ${DOC}.rtf: ${SRCS} ${JADE} -Vrtf-backend -ioutput.print ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLPRINT} -t rtf -o ${.TARGET} ${MASTERDOC} ${DOC}.doc: ${SRCS} ${JADE} -ioutput.print ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLPRINT} -t doc -o ${.TARGET} ${MASTERDOC} ${DOC}.tex: ${SRCS} ${JADE} -Vtex-backend -ioutput.print ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLPRINT} -t tex -o ${.TARGET} ${MASTERDOC} ${DOC}.dvi: ${DOC}.tex @echo "==> TeX pass 1/3" -tex "&jadetex" ${.ALLSRC} @echo "==> TeX pass 2/3" -tex "&jadetex" ${.ALLSRC} @echo "==> TeX pass 3/3" -tex "&jadetex" ${.ALLSRC} ${DOC}.pdf: ${DOC}.tex @echo "==> PDFTeX pass 1/3" -pdftex "&pdfjadetex" ${.ALLSRC} @echo "==> PDFTeX pass 2/3" -pdftex "&pdfjadetex" ${.ALLSRC} @echo "==> PDFTeX pass 3/3" pdftex "&pdfjadetex" ${.ALLSRC} ${DOC}.ps: ${DOC}.dvi dvips -o ${.TARGET} ${.ALLSRC} ${DOC}.tar: ${SRCS} tar cf ${.TARGET} ${.ALLSRC} # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Validation targets # # # Lets you quickly check that the document conforms to the DTD without # having to convert it to any other formats # lint validate: nsgmls -s -c ${FREEBSDCATALOG} -c ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} ${EXTRA_CATALOGS:S/^/-c /g} ${DOC}.sgml # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Compress targets # # # The list of compression extensions this Makefile knows about. If you # add new compression schemes, add to this list (which is a list of # extensions, hence bz2, *not* bzip2) and extend the _PROG_COMPRESS_* # targets. # KNOWN_COMPRESS= gz bz2 zip # # You can't build suffix rules to do compression, since you can't # wildcard the source suffix. So these are defined .USE, to be tacked on # as dependencies of the compress-* targets. # _PROG_COMPRESS_gz: .USE gzip -9 -c ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} _PROG_COMPRESS_bz2: .USE bzip2 -9 -c ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} _PROG_COMPRESS_zip: .USE zip -j -9 ${.TARGET} ${.ALLSRC} # # Build a list of targets for each compression scheme and output format. # Don't compress the html-split output format. # .for _curformat in ${KNOWN_FORMATS} _cf=${_curformat} .for _curcompress in ${KNOWN_COMPRESS} .if ${_cf} == "html-split" ${DOC}.${_cf}.tar.${_curcompress}: ${DOC}.${_cf}.tar _PROG_COMPRESS_${_curcompress} .else ${DOC}.${_cf}.${_curcompress}: ${DOC}.${_cf} _PROG_COMPRESS_${_curcompress} .endif .endfor .endfor # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Install targets # # Build install-* targets, one per allowed value in FORMATS. Need to # build # two specific targets; # # install-html-split - Handles multiple .html files being generated # from one source. Uses the HTML.manifest file # created by the stylesheets, which should list # each .html file that's been created. # # install-* - Every other format. The wildcard expands to # the other allowed formats, all of which should # generate just one file. # # "beforeinstall" and "afterinstall" are hooks in to this process. # Redefine them to do things before and after the files are installed, # respectively. # # Build a list of install-format targets to be installed. These will be # dependencies for the "realinstall" target. # .if !defined(INSTALL_ONLY_COMPRESSED) || empty(INSTALL_ONLY_COMPRESSED) _curinst+= ${FORMATS:S/^/install-/g} .endif realinstall: ${_curinst} .for _curformat in ${KNOWN_FORMATS} _cf=${_curformat} .if !target(install-${_cf}) .if ${_cf} == "html-split" install-${_cf}: index.html @[ -d ${DESTDIR} ] || mkdir -p ${DESTDIR} ${INSTALL_DOCS} `xargs < HTML.manifest` ${DESTDIR} @if [ -f ${.OBJDIR}/${DOC}.ln ]; then \ (cd ${DESTDIR}; sh ${.OBJDIR}/${DOC}.ln); \ fi .for _compressext in ${KNOWN_COMPRESS} install-${_cf}.tar.${_compressext}: ${DOC}.${_cf}.tar.${_compressext} @[ -d ${DESTDIR} ] || mkdir -p ${DESTDIR} ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${.ALLSRC} ${DESTDIR} .endfor .else install-${_cf}: ${DOC}.${_cf} @[ -d ${DESTDIR} ] || mkdir -p ${DESTDIR} ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${.ALLSRC} ${DESTDIR} .for _compressext in ${KNOWN_COMPRESS} install-${_cf}.${_compressext}: ${DOC}.${_cf}.${_compressext} @[ -d ${DESTDIR} ] || mkdir -p ${DESTDIR} ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${.ALLSRC} ${DESTDIR} .endfor .endif .endif .endfor # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Package building # # # realpackage is what is called in each subdirectory when a package # target is called, or, rather, package calls realpackage in each # subdirectory as it goes. # # packagelist returns the list of targets that would be called during # package building. # realpackage: ${FORMATS:S/^/package-/} packagelist: @echo ${FORMATS:S/^/package-/} # # Build a list of package targets for each output target. Each package # target depends on the corresponding install target running. # .for _curformat in ${KNOWN_FORMATS} _cf=${_curformat} package-${_curformat}: install-${_curformat} .if ${_cf} == "html-split" @cp HTML.manifest PLIST .else @echo ${DOC}.${_curformat} > PLIST .endif @pkg_create -v -c -"FDP ${.CURDIR:T} ${_curformat} package" \ -d -"FDP ${.CURDIR:T} ${_curformat} package" -f PLIST \ -p ${DESTDIR} ${PACKAGES}/${.CURDIR:T}.${LANGCODE}.${_curformat}.tgz .endfor --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: doc.install.mk Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="doc.install.mk" # # $Id$ # # # This include file provides variables defining the default # ownership, location, and installation method of files generated by the # FreeBSD Documentation Project # # Since users often build and install documentation without root, # default the document ownership to them, if they're not root. # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Document-specific variables: # # NONE # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # User-modifiable variables: # # INSTALL_DOCS The command to use to install the documentation. # Defaults to "install -o user -g group -m 444", # roughly. # # Should honour DOCOWN, DOCGRP and DOCMODE. # # Should accept a list of files to install # followed by the directory to install into. # # INSTALL_FLAGS Flags to pass to the default INSTALL_DOCS' # install command. Useful options are [CdDp]. # See install(1) for more information. # # DOCDIR Where to install the documentation. Default is # /usr/share/doc. # # DOCOWN Owner of the documents when installed. Forced # to the user installing the documentation, if the # user is not root. (for obvious reasons) # # DOCGRP Group of the documents when installed. Forced # to the primary group of the documentation, if # the user is not root. This action can be # overriden by setting: # # DOCGRP_OVERRIDE Override the use of primary group when the user # installing is not root. Sets GOCGRP to this # instead. # # DOCMODE Mode of the documents when installed. Defaults # to 444. See chmod(1). # # DOCDIR Installation directory. Defaults to # /usr/share/doc # # PACKAGES Directory in which to put packages. Defaults to # the packages directory under DOC_PREFIX, if it # exists, else the current directory. # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Make files included (if NOINCLUDEMK is not set): # # bsd.own.mk Default permissions and locations for install. # # Include system defaults, unless prevented. .if !defined(NOINCLUDEMK) .include .endif DOCOWN?= root DOCGRP?= wheel DOCMODE?= 0444 DOCDIR?= /usr/share/doc .if exists(${DOC_PREFIX}/packages) PACKAGES?= ${DOC_PREFIX}/packages .else PACKAGES?= ${.CURDIR} .endif # hack to set DOCOWN and DOCGRP to those of the user installing, if that # user is not root. USERID!= id -u USERNAME!= id -un GROUPNAME!= id -gn .if ${USERID} != 0 DOCOWN:= ${USERNAME} .if defined(DOCGRP_OVERRIDE) DOCGRP:= ${DOCGRP_OVERRIDE} .else DOCGRP:= ${GROUPNAME} .endif .endif # installation "script" INSTALL_DOCS?= \ ${INSTALL} -c ${INSTALL_FLAGS} -o ${DOCOWN} -g ${DOCGRP} -m ${DOCMODE} --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: doc.project.mk Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="doc.project.mk" # # $Id$ # # This include file is the FreeBSD Documentation Project # co-ordination make file. # # This file includes the other makefiles, which contain enough # knowledge to perform their duties without the system make files. # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Document-specific variables: # # DOC This _must_ be set if there is a document to # build. It should be without prefix. # # DOCFORMAT Format of the document. Defaults to docbook. # docbook is also the only option currently. # # MAINTAINER This denotes who is responsible for maintaining # this section of the project. If unset, set to # doc@FreeBSD.org # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # User-modifiable variables: # # PREFIX Standard path to document-building applications # installed to serve the documentation build # process, usually by installing the docproj port # or package. Default is /usr/local # # NOINCLUDEMK Whether to include the standard BSD make files, # or just to emulate them poorly. Set this if you # aren't on FreeBSD, or a compatible sibling. By # default is not set. # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Make files included: # # doc.install.mk Installation specific information, including # ownership and permissions. # # doc.subdir.mk Subdirectory related configuration, including # handling "obj" builds. # # DOCFORMAT-specific make files, like: # # doc.docbook.mk Building and installing docbook documentation. # Currently the only method. # # Document-specific defaults DOCFORMAT?= docbook MAINTAINER?= doc@FreeBSD.org # User-modifiable PREFIX?= /usr/local PRI_LANG?= en_US.ISO_8859-1 # Format-specific configuration .if defined(DOC) .if ${DOCFORMAT} == "docbook" .include "doc.docbook.mk" .endif .endif # Subdirectory glue and ownership information. .include "doc.subdir.mk" .include "doc.install.mk" --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: doc.subdir.mk Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="doc.subdir.mk" # Taken from: # Id: bsd.subdir.mk,v 1.27 1999/03/21 06:43:40 bde # # $Id$ # # This include file contains the default targets # for building subdirectories in the FreeBSD Documentation Project. # # For all of the directories listed in the variable SUBDIR, the # specified directory will be visited and the target made. There is # also a default target which allows the command "make subdir" where # subdir is any directory listed in the variable SUBDIR. # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Document-specific variables: # # SUBDIR A list of subdirectories that should be # built as well. Each of the targets will # execute the same target in the # subdirectories. # # COMPAT_SYMLINK Create a symlink named in this variable # to this directory, when installed. # # ROOT_SYMLINKS Create symlinks to the named directories # in the document root, if the current # language is the primary language. # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Provided targets: # # install: # package: # Go down subdirectories and call these targets # along the way, and then call the real target # here. # # clean: # Remove files created by the build process. # # cleandir: # Remove the object directory, if any. # .if exists(${.CURDIR}/../Makefile.inc) .include "${.CURDIR}/../Makefile.inc" .endif # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Work out the language and encoding used for this document. # # Liberal default of maximum of 5 directories below to find it. # .if !defined(LANGCODE) LANGCODE:= ${.CURDIR} .for _ in 1 2 3 4 5 .if !(${LANGCODE:H:T} == "doc") LANGCODE:= ${LANGCODE:H} .endif .endfor LANGCODE:= ${LANGCODE:T} .endif .if !target(install) install: afterinstall symlinks afterinstall: realinstall realinstall: beforeinstall _SUBDIRUSE .endif package: realpackage symlinks realpackage: _SUBDIRUSE .if !defined(IGNORE_COMPAT_SYMLINK) && defined(COMPAT_SYMLINK) SYMLINKS+= ${DOCDIR} ${.CURDIR:T:ja_JP.eucJP=ja} ${COMPAT_SYMLINK:ja=ja_JP.eucJP} .endif .if defined(PRI_LANG) && defined(ROOT_SYMLINKS) && !empty(ROOT_SYMLINKS) .if ${PRI_LANG} == ${LANGCODE} .for _tmp in ${ROOT_SYMLINKS} SYMLINKS+= ${DOCDIR} ${LANGCODE:ja_JP.eucJP=ja}/${.CURDIR:T}/${_tmp} ${_tmp} .endfor .endif .endif .if !target(symlinks) symlinks: .if defined(SYMLINKS) && !empty(SYMLINKS) @set `echo ${SYMLINKS}`; \ while : ; do \ case $$# in \ 0) break;; \ [12]) echo "warn: empty SYMLINKS: $$1 $$2"; break;; \ esac; \ d=$$1; shift; \ l=$$1; shift; \ t=$$1; shift; \ if [ ! -e $${d}/$${l} ]; then \ ${ECHO} "$${d}/$${l} doesn't exist, not linking"; \ else \ ${ECHO} $${d}/$${t} -\> $${d}/$${l}; \ (cd $${d} && rm -f $${t}); \ (cd $${d} && ln -s $${l} $${t}); \ fi; \ done .endif .endif .for __target in beforeinstall afterinstall realinstall realpackage .if !target(${__target}) ${__target}: .endif .endfor _SUBDIRUSE: .USE .for entry in ${SUBDIR} @${ECHO} "===> ${DIRPRFX}${entry}" @(cd ${.CURDIR}/${entry} && \ ${MAKE} ${.TARGET:S/realpackage/package/:S/realinstall/install/} DIRPRFX=${DIRPRFX}${entry}/ ) .endfor .if !defined(NOINCLUDEMK) .include .include .else .MAIN: all ${SUBDIR}:: cd ${.CURDIR}/${.TARGET} ${MAKE} all .for __target in all cleandir lint objlink install .if !target(${__target}) ${__target}: _SUBDIRUSE .endif .endfor .if !target(obj) obj: _SUBDIRUSE @if ! test -d ${CANONICALOBJDIR}/; then \ mkdir -p ${CANONICALOBJDIR}; \ if ! test -d ${CANONICALOBJDIR}/; then \ ${ECHO} "Unable to create ${CANONICALOBJDIR}."; \ exit 1; \ fi; \ ${ECHO} "${CANONICALOBJDIR} created ${.CURDIR}"; \ fi .endif .if !target(objlink) objlink: _SUBDIRUSE @if test -d ${CANONICALOBJDIR}/; then \ rm -f ${.CURDIR}/obj; \ ln -s ${CANONICALOBJDIR} ${.CURDIR}/obj; \ else \ echo "No ${CANONICALOBJDIR} to link to - do a make obj."; \ fi .endif .if !target(whereobj) whereobj: @echo ${.OBJDIR} .endif cleanobj: @if [ -d ${CANONICALOBJDIR}/ ]; then \ rm -rf ${CANONICALOBJDIR}; \ else \ cd ${.CURDIR} && ${MAKE} clean cleandepend; \ fi @if [ -h ${.CURDIR}/obj ]; then rm -f ${.CURDIR}/obj; fi .if !target(clean) clean: _SUBDIRUSE .if defined(CLEANFILES) && !empty(CLEANFILES) rm -f ${CLEANFILES} .endif .if defined(CLEANDIRS) && !empty(CLEANDIRS) rm -rf ${CLEANDIRS} .endif .endif cleandir: cleanobj _SUBDIRUSE .endif # end of NOINCLUDEMK section --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=doc-patchset Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/26 19:40:04 1.13 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 14:22:35 @@ -14,4 +14,5 @@ SUBDIR+= zh_TW.Big5 .endif -.include +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR} +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 00:02:11 1.5 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 10:02:31 @@ -5,18 +5,5 @@ COMPAT_SYMLINK = en -# -# Put the compatability symlink in place. -# -afterinstall: -.if !defined(IGNORE_COMPAT_SYMLINK) - if [ ! -e ${DOCDIR}/${COMPAT_SYMLINK} ]; then \ - rm -rf ${DOCDIR}/${COMPAT_SYMLINK}; \ - (cd ${DOCDIR} && ln -s en_US.ISO_8859-1 ${COMPAT_SYMLINK}); \ - fi -.endif - -.include - -DOC_PREFIX?= .. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/17 21:35:52 1.2 +++ Makefile 1999/08/30 13:02:56 @@ -8,4 +8,7 @@ SUBDIR+= new-users SUBDIR+= programming-tools -.include +ROOT_SYMLINKS+= new-users + +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/diskless-x/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/diskless-x/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 00:02:16 1.3 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 18:53:03 @@ -9,6 +9,6 @@ SRCS= article.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/fonts/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/fonts/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 00:02:17 1.6 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 18:53:04 @@ -9,6 +9,6 @@ SRCS= article.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/formatting-media/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 00:02:17 1.3 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 18:53:04 @@ -9,6 +9,6 @@ SRCS= article.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/mh/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/mh/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 00:02:18 1.6 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 18:53:05 @@ -9,6 +9,6 @@ SRCS= article.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 00:02:19 1.6 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 18:53:05 @@ -9,6 +9,6 @@ SRCS= article.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/new-users/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/new-users/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 00:02:20 1.5 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 18:53:05 @@ -9,6 +9,6 @@ SRCS= article.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/programming-tools/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/programming-tools/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 00:02:21 1.6 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 18:53:06 @@ -9,6 +9,6 @@ SRCS= article.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/17 22:11:19 1.3 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 14:36:50 @@ -4,4 +4,7 @@ SUBDIR+= fdp-primer SUBDIR+= handbook -.include +ROOT_SYMLINKS= handbook faq + +DOC_PREFIX?= ../.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 00:02:21 1.3 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 18:54:32 @@ -21,6 +21,6 @@ # SGML content SRCS= book.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "$(DOC_PREFIX)/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 00:02:22 1.5 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 18:53:06 @@ -36,6 +36,6 @@ # Entities SRCS+= chapters.ent -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -r1.24 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 00:02:23 1.24 +++ Makefile 1999/08/29 18:54:54 @@ -55,5 +55,5 @@ SRCS+= chapters.ent SRCS+= mailing-lists.ent -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: es_ES.ISO_8859-1/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/es_ES.ISO_8859-1/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/26 19:42:11 1.5 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 10:05:39 @@ -4,18 +4,5 @@ COMPAT_SYMLINK = es -# -# Put the compatability symlink in place. -# -afterinstall: -.if !defined(IGNORE_COMPAT_SYMLINK) - if [ ! -e ${DOCDIR}/${COMPAT_SYMLINK} ]; then \ - rm -rf ${DOCDIR}/${COMPAT_SYMLINK}; \ - (cd ${DOCDIR} && ln -s es_ES.ISO_8859-1 ${COMPAT_SYMLINK}); \ - fi -.endif - -.include - -DOC_PREFIX = .. -.include "../share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" +DOC_PREFIX = ${.CURDIR}/.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: es_ES.ISO_8859-1/books/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/es_ES.ISO_8859-1/books/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/19 00:07:57 1.1 +++ Makefile 1999/08/30 15:50:37 @@ -2,4 +2,7 @@ SUBDIR = faq -.include +ROOT_SYMLINKS= faq + +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" Index: es_ES.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/es_ES.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/18 13:04:30 1.1 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 10:49:04 @@ -21,6 +21,5 @@ # SGML content SRCS= book.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. - -.include "../../../share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: ja_JP.eucJP/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -r1.9 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/28 10:15:02 1.9 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 12:06:00 @@ -3,20 +3,8 @@ SUBDIR = books SUBDIR+= man -COMPAT_SYMLINK = ja_JP.eucJP +# This is turned the correct way around in doc.subdir.mk +COMPAT_SYMLINK= ja_JP.eucJP -# -# Put the compatability symlink in place. -# -afterinstall: -.if !defined(IGNORE_COMPAT_SYMLINK) - if [ ! -e ${DOCDIR}/${COMPAT_SYMLINK} ]; then \ - rm -rf ${DOCDIR}/${COMPAT_SYMLINK}; \ - (cd ${DOCDIR} && ln -s ja ${COMPAT_SYMLINK}); \ - fi -.endif - -.include - -DOC_PREFIX = .. -.include "../share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" +DOC_PREFIX= ${.CURDIR}/.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/19 20:37:05 1.3 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 11:57:37 @@ -3,4 +3,7 @@ SUBDIR = faq SUBDIR+= handbook -.include +ROOT_SYMLINKS= faq handbook + +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" Index: ja_JP.eucJP/books/faq/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/faq/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/28 09:48:29 1.4 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 11:07:19 @@ -21,6 +21,5 @@ # SGML content SRCS= book.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. - -.include "../../../share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.37 diff -u -r1.37 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/28 09:48:28 1.37 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 11:07:38 @@ -61,5 +61,5 @@ SRCS+= jcontrib/chapter.sgml SRCS+= jauthors.ent -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. -.include "../../../share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: ja_JP.eucJP/man/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/01/25 15:27:24 1.3 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 14:31:50 @@ -4,5 +4,7 @@ makedb: LANG=ja_JP.EUC jmakewhatis ${DESTDIR}${BINDIR}/man/ja/ +package: + .include Index: ru_RU.KOI8-R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 16:52:23 1.5 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 10:07:24 @@ -4,18 +4,5 @@ COMPAT_SYMLINK = ru -# -# Put the compatability symlink in place. -# -afterinstall: -.if !defined(IGNORE_COMPAT_SYMLINK) - if [ ! -e ${DOCDIR}/${COMPAT_SYMLINK} ]; then \ - rm -rf ${DOCDIR}/${COMPAT_SYMLINK}; \ - (cd ${DOCDIR} && ln -s ru_RU.KOI8-R ${COMPAT_SYMLINK}); \ - fi -.endif - -.include - -DOC_PREFIX = .. +DOC_PREFIX = ${.CURDIR}/.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 16:51:57 1.1 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 10:08:07 @@ -2,4 +2,7 @@ SUBDIR = faq -.include +ROOT_SYMLINKS= faq + +DOC_PREFIX= ${.CURDIR}/../.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" Index: ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/29 16:51:17 1.1 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 10:08:55 @@ -21,6 +21,5 @@ # SGML content SRCS= book.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. - +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: zh_TW.Big5/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/zh_TW.Big5/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/26 19:42:13 1.4 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 10:09:18 @@ -4,18 +4,5 @@ COMPAT_SYMLINK = zh -# -# Put the compatability symlink in place. -# -afterinstall: -.if !defined(IGNORE_COMPAT_SYMLINK) - if [ ! -e ${DOCDIR}/${COMPAT_SYMLINK} ]; then \ - rm -rf ${DOCDIR}/${COMPAT_SYMLINK}; \ - (cd ${DOCDIR} && ln -s zh_TW.Big5 ${COMPAT_SYMLINK}); \ - fi -.endif - -.include - -DOC_PREFIX = .. -.include "../share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" +DOC_PREFIX = ${.CURDIR}/.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" Index: zh_TW.Big5/books/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/zh_TW.Big5/books/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/19 03:56:48 1.1 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 10:09:55 @@ -2,4 +2,7 @@ SUBDIR = faq -.include +ROOT_SYMLINKS= faq + +DOC_PREFIX= ${.CURDIR}/../.. +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" Index: zh_TW.Big5/books/faq/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/zh_TW.Big5/books/faq/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/25 05:29:44 1.2 +++ Makefile 1999/08/31 14:50:05 @@ -23,6 +23,6 @@ # SGML content SRCS= book.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. -.include "../../../share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" +.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk" --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 9:48:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5FE14D56; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp933.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.184]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id BAA08225; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 01:48:16 +0900 (JST) To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp, iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doc/ will not freeze From: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:05:13 +0100" <19990830200512.A50805@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990830200512.A50805@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990901014753F.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 01:47:53 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 39 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Following is my personal opinion. I know mainly about doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man and I know little about handbook and FAQ. (I am a Japanese translator who make diffs to doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man and ask Mr. Kuriyama to apply the diffs) Before RELEASEs were released, some approved commits were made while src/ tree had been frozen. These approved commits sometimes included manual pages updates. Before RELEASE, I want to update translated manual pages when original manual pages is updated while src/ is frozen. This is because it is important to keep original manual pages and translated ones in sync when RELEASE is made. If commits approved by you (and/or nominated persons from each translation team) are allowed, I do not mind doc/ tree freeze before RELEASE. From: Nik Clayton > On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 02:11:55PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > From: Mitsuru IWASAKI > > > BTW, when is the doc code freeze for 3.3-RELEASE? What can we do > > > before that? > > > > Usually, doc tree will not freeze around release because it has no > > branch such as RELENG_*. > > That's true. However, changes to the doc/ tree can interfere with the > release building, particularly changes to the make(1) infrastructure. > Also, mistaken commits to the content of the documentation can cause the > release system to fail as well -- see what happened recently when a new > committer forgot to add themselves to the authors.ent file. > > I think it might be worth having a freeze just to avoid these potential > problems. I think the chance of them occuring is small, but it's probably > not worth the risk. I'd be interested to hear contrary points of view > though. -- Kazuo Horikawa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 11:15:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F09815867 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA67425 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:09:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA84948 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:54:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:54:41 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: RFW: Using a CD writer with FreeBSD Message-ID: <19990831085441.A84530@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -doc, [ RFW == Request For Writer ] Does anyone here posess a CD writer? There was a thread in -current about a week ago (kicked off by Amancio Hasty) about the best way to use a CD writer to write regular and audio CDs, because apparently the documentation is a bit lacking. I don't have one, so can't check the accuracy of anything I write. However, if anyone here does have one, and feels up to the task of producing a short article (or Handbook section) about it, please let me know. I've saved the thread from -current, and can forward it on to you easily enough. Cheers, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 15: 7:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.psn.net (neptune.psn.net [207.211.58.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A4714D5E; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:07:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@shadow.blackdawn.com) Received: from 5042-243.008.popsite.net ([209.224.140.243] helo=shadow.blackdawn.com) by neptune.psn.net with esmtp (PSN Internet Service 2.12 #3) id 11Lw3N-0003AN-00; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:06:57 -0700 Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA18829; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:06:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990831085441.A84530@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Will Andrews From: Will Andrews To: Nik Clayton Subject: RE: RFW: Using a CD writer with FreeBSD Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31-Aug-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > -doc, > > [ RFW == Request For Writer ] > > Does anyone here posess a CD writer? There was a thread in -current about > a week ago (kicked off by Amancio Hasty) about the best way to use a CD > writer to write regular and audio CDs, because apparently the documentation > is a bit lacking. I have a Yamaha CRW4416S, a 4x/4x/16x CD-RW drive. However, I have yet to get it to work with FreeBSD (it is supported by cdrecord) due to firmware issues. I need to upgrade the firmware before I can help out on this. > I don't have one, so can't check the accuracy of anything I write. However, > if anyone here does have one, and feels up to the task of producing a short > article (or Handbook section) about it, please let me know. I've saved > the thread from -current, and can forward it on to you easily enough. Please forward it.. if I get my drive working (I know others with the same drive who have it working), I will write the docs. Thanks, -- Will Andrews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 16:12:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lilac.ocn.ne.jp (lilac.ocn.ne.jp [203.139.160.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCF014D37 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:12:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eiji@lilac.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from lilac.ocn.ne.jp by lilac.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id IAA22344; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:12:16 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37CC6737.3C5B9CF1@lilac.ocn.ne.jp> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 08:37:29 +0900 From: eiji@lilac.ocn.ne.jp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SYMBOL-INFORMATION Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Many symbol is declared.(for example,in c languege) Where is symbol information? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 18:29:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.psn.net (neptune.psn.net [207.211.58.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C0F15406 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:29:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@shadow.blackdawn.com) Received: from 5042-243.008.popsite.net ([209.224.140.243] helo=shadow.blackdawn.com) by neptune.psn.net with esmtp (PSN Internet Service 2.12 #3) id 11LzCk-0001im-00; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:28:50 -0700 Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA23979; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:28:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990901022030.D377@ppp1-cergy.isdnet.net> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Will Andrews From: Will Andrews To: Robert Brive Subject: Re: RFW: Using a CD writer with FreeBSD Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 01-Sep-99 Robert Brive wrote: > Got the same drive (firmware 1.0f) and it's working well with > FreeBSD 3.2 (cdrecord). > I've also used for years (since 2.2.1?), the CDD2600 (Philips). > Feel free to contact me if you need help on the technical aspect and > for the french translation :-) ... Sure. I'll send you the docs once they're done. I'm on f/w 1.0e.. been trying to get a boot disk for dos that loads the right drivers (Adaptec AIC-7890 + Yamaha CRW4416), so I can use Yamaha's patch to update it to 1.0g. If anyone can help me in this regard, please let me know. -- Will Andrews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 31 22:36:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub3.isdnet.net (mailhub3.isdnet.net [195.154.209.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DFC1547C for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:36:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@ppp1-cergy.isdnet.net) Received: from ppp1-cergy.isdnet.net ([194.149.184.165]) by mailhub3.isdnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20444 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:36:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from robert@localhost) by ppp1-cergy.isdnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA01001; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 02:20:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from robert) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 02:20:30 +0200 From: Robert Brive To: Will Andrews Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RFW: Using a CD writer with FreeBSD Message-ID: <19990901022030.D377@ppp1-cergy.isdnet.net> References: <19990831085441.A84530@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Will Andrews on Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 06:06:46PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 06:06:46PM -0400, Will Andrews wrote: > On 31-Aug-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > > -doc, > > > > [ RFW == Request For Writer ] > > > > Does anyone here posess a CD writer? There was a thread in -current about > > a week ago (kicked off by Amancio Hasty) about the best way to use a CD > > writer to write regular and audio CDs, because apparently the documentation > > is a bit lacking. > > I have a Yamaha CRW4416S, a 4x/4x/16x CD-RW drive. However, I have yet to get > it to work with FreeBSD (it is supported by cdrecord) due to firmware issues. I > need to upgrade the firmware before I can help out on this. > ... > Please forward it.. if I get my drive working (I know others with the same > drive who have it working), I will write the docs. > > Thanks, > > -- > Will Andrews > Got the same drive (firmware 1.0f) and it's working well with FreeBSD 3.2 (cdrecord). I've also used for years (since 2.2.1?), the CDD2600 (Philips). Feel free to contact me if you need help on the technical aspect and for the french translation :-) ... > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Robert Brive To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 1 0:16: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f24.hotmail.com [209.185.131.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9B4D14D96 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 00:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ne0pt0lemus@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 34091 invoked by uid 0); 1 Sep 1999 07:14:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990901071409.34090.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.27.133.222 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 00:14:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.27.133.222] From: "elite lamer" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 00:14:09 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What I had found most confusing is that I could not find out how to download freeBSD. I was just led around in circles until I finally found a phone number where I can pay for a CD. It would be easier if the OS could be directly downloaded from the website or atleast make it simpler on downloading it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 1 0:33:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from abatis.sweb.com (ip-140-066.gw.total-web.net [209.187.140.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A83214D96 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 00:33:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zaph0d@sweb.com) Received: from localhost (zaph0d@localhost) by abatis.sweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA37830; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 03:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 03:32:26 -0400 (EDT) From: john To: elite lamer Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <19990901071409.34090.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org you can download it via ftp from the install disks, or you can ftp it yourself. On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, elite lamer wrote: > What I had found most confusing is that I could not find out how to download > freeBSD. I was just led around in circles until I finally found a phone > number where I > can pay for a CD. It would be easier if the OS could be directly downloaded > from > the website or atleast make it simpler on downloading it. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 1 3: 6:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FCC14C24; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 03:06:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA62112; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 03:04:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 03:04:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199909011004.DAA62112@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, jkh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13436: pkg_install staff mdoc(7)'fy and pkg_info.1 desc fix Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: pkg_install staff mdoc(7)'fy and pkg_info.1 desc fix State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkh State-Changed-When: Wed Sep 1 03:04:40 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Commited, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 1 4:48: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from charma.uprm.edu (charma.UPR.CLU.EDU [136.145.164.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2B75154FF for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 04:48:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kennie@uprm.edu) Received: by charma.uprm.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/16Mar99-0506PM) id AA10161; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:47:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:47:32 -0400 From: Kennie J.Cruz Gutierrez Message-Id: <199909011147.AA10161@charma.uprm.edu> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 1 8: 0:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.psn.net (saturn.psn.net [207.211.58.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E4A14D3B for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (5042-243.008.popsite.net [209.224.140.243]) by saturn.psn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21289; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:01:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22739; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:57:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990901071409.34090.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Will Andrews From: Will Andrews To: elite lamer Subject: RE: Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 01-Sep-99 elite lamer wrote: > What I had found most confusing is that I could not find out how to download > freeBSD. I was just led around in circles until I finally found a phone > number where I > can pay for a CD. It would be easier if the OS could be directly downloaded > from > the website or atleast make it simpler on downloading it. Try again. The FreeBSD FAQ precisely states on this page: http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/FAQ/install.html ...that the following are required (for typical MS-DOS/Windoze user): floppies/boot.flp bin/ manpages/ compat*/ doc/ src/ssys.* tools/rawrite.exe You can get these off: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.2-RELEASE/ There is also a list of various mirrors at: http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html Please do your research better next time. A few good spots to look for FreeBSD information: http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/handbook/ http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/FAQ/ http://www.freebsdzine.org/ http://www.freebsdrocks.com/ http://www.freebsddiary.org/freebsd/ http://www.daemonnews.org/ http://flag.blackened.net/freebsd/ http://freebsd.tesserae.com/ http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/ http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/ http://www.lemis.com/questions.html http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/projects/newbies.html http://www.ghis.net/~jim/ http://www.mcs.net/~rneswold/www/fbsd-init.html http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~rpratt/ http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ ..ad nauseum. I'm gonna have to stick all these links on a site someday. ;> -- Will Andrews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 1 8: 7: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C311414E17 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:07:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12269 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:06:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA17999 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:06:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909011506.JAA17999@harmony.village.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Question on the web pages Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 09:06:43 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a question about how the web pages for the FreeBSD site are generated. I'd like to add a more dynamic section which contains recent security fixes controlled by me and my security team. How hard would that be to setup? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 1 8:58:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A887715372; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:58:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp389.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.89]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id AAA21955; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:56:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.1) with ESMTP id AAA71337; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:56:09 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 00:56:06 +0900 Message-ID: <14285.19606.789844.81928B@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? In-Reply-To: In your message of "Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:23:43 +0100" <19990825232343.A34546@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990819131224.A844@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990825232343.A34546@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Nik Clayton > Now that I know about it, I've got people interested in working on this. > Could someone from the Japanese team please take 5 or 10 minutes to put > together a very short DocBook article (in Japanese) that shows the > problem. 5 or 6 paragraphs worth will be fine. I made a sample book.sgml which encoded in Japanese EUC. I've put it on: http://www.freebsd.org/~kuriyama/book.sgml Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 1 11:31:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from terrapin.ru.ac.za (terrapin.ru.ac.za [146.231.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7151552E for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:31:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org) Received: from duca.dialup.ru.ac.za ([146.231.98.24] helo=mithrandr.moria.org) by terrapin.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11MF8V-0008pZ-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:29:31 +0200 Received: (qmail 61642 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Sep 1999 18:25:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:25:00 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question on the web pages Message-ID: <19990901202500.B61356@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <199909011506.JAA17999@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199909011506.JAA17999@harmony.village.org>; from Warner Losh on Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 09:06:43AM -0600 Organization: Rhodes University Computer Users' Society X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed 1999-09-01 (09:06), Warner Losh wrote: > I have a question about how the web pages for the FreeBSD site are > generated. I'd like to add a more dynamic section which contains > recent security fixes controlled by me and my security team. How hard > would that be to setup? The web pages are generated via a somewhat-standard make-wielding build, and posted on the site every day at 4am PST. If that sort of granularity sounds about right, then adding this content can probably best be achieved in the www tree. You can generate the HTML code from sgml via sgmlnorm (like a large number of the pages), or through some sort of script (the gallery). There are plenty of examples in the www tree. wosch's "Building the FreeBSD web pages" guide is at http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/papers/webbuild.html, if that helps. If the granularity isn't quite what you're looking for, then some form of CGI script is probably in order. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 1 12:43:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from siloam.bstream.com (siloam.bstream.com [12.10.104.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285251550B for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:43:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underwood@bstream.com) Received: from UNDERWOOD (hptcu239 [12.10.104.239]) by siloam.bstream.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA04889 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:41:53 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01bef4c2$8d5456a0$ef680a0c@UNDERWOOD> From: "underwood@bstrem.com" To: Subject: complete install Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:39:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF487.DE1C1FE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF487.DE1C1FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am attempting to install freebsd to a new harddrive{wd 4.3 gb} = completely from fttp.am somewhat confused as how to go about it. The = primary system is win98.CPU is AMDk6 2/333 3d. the second hrd drive is = the 4.3gb running as secondary master. Is this possible? I have limited = understanding of free bsd as an operating system. Have pc-dos 3.0 discs = to load for os on 2nd drive if needed.The primary objective is to load = freebsd as a learning tool for myself and 12 yr. old . please advise. = Rich Underwood, Sioam Springs, Ar. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF487.DE1C1FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
      Am attempting to install freebsd to a new = harddrive{wd 4.3 gb}=20 completely from fttp.am somewhat confused as how to go about it. The = primary=20 system is win98.CPU is AMDk6 2/333 3d. the second hrd drive is the 4.3gb = running=20 as secondary master. Is this possible? I have limited understanding of = free bsd=20 as an operating system. Have pc-dos 3.0 discs to load for os on 2nd = drive if=20 needed.The primary objective is to load freebsd as a learning tool for = myself=20 and 12 yr. old . please advise. Rich Underwood, Sioam Springs,=20 Ar.
      ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF487.DE1C1FE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 1 13:21:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92F514BCF for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:21:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13527; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:21:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA19739; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:20:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909012020.OAA19739@harmony.village.org> To: Neil Blakey-Milner Subject: Re: Question on the web pages Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:25:00 +0200." <19990901202500.B61356@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <19990901202500.B61356@mithrandr.moria.org> <199909011506.JAA17999@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:20:53 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <19990901202500.B61356@mithrandr.moria.org> Neil Blakey-Milner writes: : If the granularity isn't quite what you're looking for, then some : form of CGI script is probably in order. It would be nice if we could push things out faster than once a day, but once a day likely is fast enough. Is Wosch's web page still accurate as to what I need? What I'd like to accomplish is a way to publish a security "alert" that would be less than a complete advisory, but would say things like "wuftpd has a hold in it, upgrade to the port after 19990831" or something like that. I'm not yet sure of the machanics of this yet, nor how to link patches from these updates. So I'm mulling right now the best way to improve this. Also, if there was a tech writer that wanted to help on security issues and who would be willing to write the advisories that could do so confidentially, I would love to have that help. I need fast turnaround a few times a year... 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This message will not be resent to anyone. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > ------------------------------------------- Greg Lynn Systems Admin / Web Programmer Virginia VIEW 205 West Roanoke (540) 231-7571 URL: vaview.vavu.vt.edu WORK EMAIL: dglynn@vaview5.vavu.vt.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 2 1: 3:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C7A14EE4 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 01:03:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25292; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:01:40 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990902180138.A25252@caamora.com.au> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:01:38 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: Matthew Hunt Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD webdesign Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Hunt , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990817233734.80790.qmail@hotmail.com> <37BB0AEE.ED7B311F@nisser.com> <19990826051922.A6868@caamora.com.au> <19990825130845.B36450@wopr.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990825130845.B36450@wopr.caltech.edu>; from Matthew Hunt on Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 01:08:45PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 01:08:45PM -0700, Matthew Hunt wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 05:19:22AM +1000, jonathan michaels wrote: > > > or someting long the lines of disabled people with various > > levels of visual acuity loss, the poor screen resolutions used > > by crts thes days, generally 70-90 dpi and finally those with > > colour diferentiation and distortion difficulties > > I'll be even more reactionary, reaching back to the good ol' days > when HTML didn't have a way to specify text and background colors. > I don't think web pages should be altering the background and text > colors that I have selected (traditional Mosaic black-on-grey). i don't think that is a reactionary position ... it was what html was intended to be. i use mosaic exclusively when i need (am forced to use) a gui client. i used to hope that microsoft and netscape would leave html alone, looks like i hoped in vain. on another more sombre note... ps, to all the others who responded to my comments thank you. i am not real good (as in being very ill) at the moment. sometimes the frustration of not being able to manage teh (sever chronic and intractble) pain have coloured my responces, for this i apologise. let me take this oportunity to say thank you and goodbye. some time between now and christmass i will be subject to a series of surgeries that will ultimately determine what is left of my fate, while i have a good (one of the best) neurosurgeons in the hosptial my fate is ultimately inthe hands of my god and he has a particularly interesting sence of humour. so who know what will happen. anyway, its been nice to talk to those few who could see past thier own parocial language usage and my somewhat contorted spellings, again thank you all and good bye .. may your god be with you and keep you all safe, as mine is and does for me. warm regards jonathan ps, mr clayton, er, um, nik .. thanks for your help. -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 2 5: 5:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.criterion.canon.co.uk (mailhost.criterion.canon.co.uk [194.223.249.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AED14DD6 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 05:05:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adamn@csl.com) Received: from csl.com (hermes.criterion.canon.co.uk [194.223.249.13]) by mailhost.criterion.canon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA29412 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:55:09 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CE67F1.F1FA8B0D@csl.com> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:05:05 +0100 From: Adam Nealis Organization: Criterion Software, Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Broken link on page http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ the link "Installing the FreeBSD NTFS (NT Filesystem) driver" should point to http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/#ntfs Cheers, Adam. 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Folks, please, *never* resend a spam to the list! > ---------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | picnic.mat.net: FreeBSD/i386 (301) 220-2114 | jaunt.mat.net : FreeBSD/Alpha ---------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 2 10:13:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BB315DEA for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:13:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from p46s10a07.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.234.71] helo=marder-1.) by sand2.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11MaQJ-0003PN-00; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:13:19 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id SAA00936; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:05:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:05:38 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Adam Nealis Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Broken link on page http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ Message-ID: <19990902180538.D296@marder-1> References: <37CE67F1.F1FA8B0D@csl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <37CE67F1.F1FA8B0D@csl.com>; from Adam Nealis on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 01:05:05PM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 01:05:05PM +0100, Adam Nealis wrote: > Hi, > > http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ the link "Installing the FreeBSD NTFS > (NT Filesystem) driver" should point to > http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/#ntfs > Oops. Thanks. There's no need to change the link, I just forgot to put a "Thsi page has moved" at the old URL. Thanks for the wake-up I'll get it sorted. > Cheers, > Adam. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 2 10:34: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD6614BD4 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:33:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from p82s07a07.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.231.131] helo=marder-1.) by sand2.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11MajY-0004Gj-00; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:33:13 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id SAA01045; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:25:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:25:32 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Adam Nealis Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Broken link on page http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ Message-ID: <19990902182532.E296@marder-1> References: <37CE67F1.F1FA8B0D@csl.com> <19990902180538.D296@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990902180538.D296@marder-1>; from Mark Ovens on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 06:05:38PM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 06:05:38PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 01:05:05PM +0100, Adam Nealis wrote: > > Hi, > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ the link "Installing the FreeBSD NTFS > > (NT Filesystem) driver" should point to > > http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/#ntfs > > > > Oops. Thanks. There's no need to change the link, I just forgot to > put a "Thsi page has moved" at the old URL. > > Thanks for the wake-up I'll get it sorted. > OK, I've done it now (I've put the original page back and changed the links from it) > > Cheers, > > Adam. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > -- > STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. > OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. > ________________________________________________________________ > FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ > mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 2 11:28:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADA9155E5 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:27:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21926 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:19:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA53455 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:58:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:58:26 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 3.3 freeze Message-ID: <19990902105825.A52462@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, Over in the src/ tree they're now in a code freeze for the next 15 days in the run up to the release of FreeBSD 3.3. This means no new features should be merged in to the -stable branch without clearance from Jordan first. Because the doc/ tree is not branched for releases this will not affect us too much. In particular, I'm happy for changes to the content of the documentation under doc/ to carry on as normal. However, part of the FreeBSD release process includes making the documentation, which means that "make release" is dependent on our make(1) infrastructure working properly. I believe it's working properly at the moment. If it breaks between now and the 15th I'll have Jordan shouting at me, so, if you have changes to the Makefiles or *.mk files, please can you funnel them through me for review first (e.g., Neil's splitting up of docprog.docbook.mk, which I'm examining now). Thanks, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 2 11:33:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0704415612 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21937; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:19:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA77085; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:52:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:52:07 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Re: The next exciting installment of docproj.docbook.mk splitting. Message-ID: <19990902155207.B58095@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990831170213.A97218@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990831170213.A97218@mithrandr.moria.org>; from Neil Blakey-Milner on Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 05:02:14PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Neil, On Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 05:02:14PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > I've received a few hints, and here is my new offering. > > Stuff added: > > - Automatic after-install COMPAT_SYMLINK handling Excellent. > - ROOT_SYMLINKS pointing to important documents leads to symlink from > DOCDIR to that document (ie, doc/faq to doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq), > if we're building the primary language (PRI_LANG) version. Excellent. > - packaging! Excellent. > - package now traverses the tree, creating packages as it goes. Default > package location is DOC_PREFIX/packages if it exists, or the current > directory if not Very, very sweet. Great work Neil. You've pretty much managed to do everything that was on my make(1) ToDo list, including the bits that I hadn't got round to mentioning (${ROOT_SYMLINKS} for one), and after reading through the code to do it you've done it better than I could. I'm cleaning up a few places, fixing your inconsistent use of doc.project.mk vs. docproj.docbook.mk, and fixing the odd typo in the comment, but apart from that I'll be committing this ASAP. My local tree is in a bit of a state at the moment, because I'm in the middle of an update to the primer. I'll get that sorted, and bring your .mk files in to the tree as soon as I can (hopefully within 24 hours or so). Which just about leaves room for a quick straw poll. Underscores in variable names to separate words. Good or bad? We're inconsistent in how we use them, which always leaves me having to think for a second when writing the Makefiles ("Hmm, is it ${DOCDIR} or ${DOC_DIR}?"). A quick look through /usr/share/mk shows that by and large the use of _ is deprecated. There are occasional instances of ${NEED_LIBNAMES} or ${DEBUG_FLAGS}, but they're far outweighed by the number of ${CFLAGS}, ${LDDESTDIR}, ${DEPENDFILE}, and ${NOPROFILE}, to name a few. The use of ..._FLAGS vs. ...FLAGS is particularly confusing. Right now it would be pretty trivial to strip the '_' from our variable names, and to the best of my knowledge we don't (yet) have lots of people external to the project who are using our files on systems other than FreeBSD -- so the impact is likely to be minimal. Doing this at a later stage would probably inconvenience more people. Thoughts? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 2 11:34:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E5615B64 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21939; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:19:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA58731; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:41:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:41:27 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Warner Losh Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question on the web pages Message-ID: <19990902114127.A58095@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990901202500.B61356@mithrandr.moria.org> <199909011506.JAA17999@harmony.village.org> <19990901202500.B61356@mithrandr.moria.org> <199909012020.OAA19739@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199909012020.OAA19739@harmony.village.org>; from Warner Losh on Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 02:20:53PM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Damn. Sorry I didn't reply to your message earlier, I've been pondering some of this as well. On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 02:20:53PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <19990901202500.B61356@mithrandr.moria.org> Neil Blakey-Milner writes: > : If the granularity isn't quite what you're looking for, then some > : form of CGI script is probably in order. > > It would be nice if we could push things out faster than once a day, > but once a day likely is fast enough. Two choices really. 1. The webbuild script on freefall works, and takes about 5 minutes to run. A procedure that lets you push the pages out as and when you want is probably a good idea. There are a few issues to work around (like making sure that two updates don't try and run at the same time) but these are fairly trivial. 2. Set up security.freebsd.org (or similar) and give you full control over that. But announcements would still need to be on www.freebsd.org, so that's not a perfect solution. > Is Wosch's web page still accurate as to what I need? It was the last time I looked. Also, look at freefall.freebsd.org:/usr/local/www/bin/webupdate-cvsup (path from memory, but it's around there somewhere). > What I'd like to accomplish is a way to publish a security "alert" > that would be less than a complete advisory, but would say things like > "wuftpd has a hold in it, upgrade to the port after 19990831" or > something like that. I'm not yet sure of the machanics of this yet, > nor how to link patches from these updates. So I'm mulling right now > the best way to improve this. Simple web pages are probably easiest. You have to remember to update the newsflash page as well though. Depending on when you need this done by, it could form a topic of conversation at FreeBSD Con. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 2 13:26:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A132D14D3D; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:26:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18114; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:25:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA27117; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:25:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909022025.OAA27117@harmony.village.org> To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Question on the web pages Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:41:27 BST." <19990902114127.A58095@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990902114127.A58095@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990901202500.B61356@mithrandr.moria.org> <199909011506.JAA17999@harmony.village.org> <19990901202500.B61356@mithrandr.moria.org> <199909012020.OAA19739@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 14:25:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <19990902114127.A58095@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Nik Clayton writes: : 1. The webbuild script on freefall works, and takes about 5 minutes to : run. A procedure that lets you push the pages out as and when you : want is probably a good idea. There are a few issues to work around : (like making sure that two updates don't try and run at the same time) : but these are fairly trivial. : : 2. Set up security.freebsd.org (or similar) and give you full control over : that. But announcements would still need to be on www.freebsd.org, : so that's not a perfect solution. I have occasion, likely 10 times a year, to want to push things out quickly. So #2 is overkill. Not sure how to deal with the interlock issues except maybe a lockfile. : > Is Wosch's web page still accurate as to what I need? : : It was the last time I looked. Also, look at : : freefall.freebsd.org:/usr/local/www/bin/webupdate-cvsup : : (path from memory, but it's around there somewhere). OK. I'll start building the 10000 ports needed then :-) : Simple web pages are probably easiest. You have to remember to update the : newsflash page as well though. OK. : Depending on when you need this done by, it could form a topic of : conversation at FreeBSD Con. I'd like to get something in place before then, but it doesn't have to be complete and the current 1 day delay would be OK between now and then. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 2 13:56:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from terrapin.ru.ac.za (terrapin.ru.ac.za [146.231.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFE414ECD for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org) Received: from duca.dialup.ru.ac.za ([146.231.98.24] helo=mithrandr.moria.org) by terrapin.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11MduD-0006nY-00 for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 02 Sep 1999 22:56:25 +0200 Received: (qmail 76538 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Sep 1999 20:48:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:48:51 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Nik Clayton Cc: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Re: The next exciting installment of docproj.docbook.mk splitting. Message-ID: <19990902224851.A76126@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <19990831170213.A97218@mithrandr.moria.org> <19990902155207.B58095@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990902155207.B58095@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 03:52:07PM +0100 Organization: Rhodes University Computer Users' Society X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu 1999-09-02 (15:52), Nik Clayton wrote: > Great work Neil. You've pretty much managed to do everything that was on > my make(1) ToDo list, including the bits that I hadn't got round to > mentioning (${ROOT_SYMLINKS} for one), and after reading through the code > to do it you've done it better than I could. Thanks! (: > Which just about leaves room for a quick straw poll. Underscores in > variable names to separate words. Good or bad? It's a tough call - the underscores improve readability, but they're definitely in the minority. > name a few. The use of ..._FLAGS vs. ...FLAGS is particularly > confusing. We should definitely decide on a standardized way of doing this. Sans underscore gets my vote on this issue (same with OPTS). KNOWN_FORMATS and KNOWN_COMPRESSED should probably stay the same. Non-abbreviated long (>5) words should be separated by underscores? Maybe the previous, with the condition it references a list, not just a single item? INSTALL_ONLY_COMPRESSED vs. INSTALLONLYCOMPRESSED seems a good argument against axing without regard. All things of form somethingDIR or somethingMODE or somethingOWN shouldn't have underscores. DOCPREFIX vs. DOC_PREFIX? I find it cumbersome to type with the underscore. All current usage examples use the form without the underscore. DOCGRP_OVERRIDE vs DOCGRPOVERRIDE? That's a definite for an underscore. Both sides are pretty long, and it isn't obvious where a break would occur (too many consonants in a row). I did INSTALL_DOCS in the style of bsd.port.mk's INSTALL_*. INSTALL_FLAGS should drop the underscore, if only to make it easier to apply a rule that says "no underscore before FLAGS". > Right now it would be pretty trivial to strip the '_' from our variable > names, and to the best of my knowledge we don't (yet) have lots of > people external to the project who are using our files on systems other > than FreeBSD -- so the impact is likely to be minimal. Doing this at a > later stage would probably inconvenience more people. We should make sure we don't change variable names in our "replacements" of the system make files, is my only real concern. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 2 16:51:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DCD14F4C for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brunner@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (brunner@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28734 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (brunner@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA26000 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199909022351.TAA26000@world.std.com> X-Authentication-Warning: world.std.com: brunner@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Query -- editor(s) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 19:51:22 -0400 From: Eric Brunner Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, What are my choices for writing, assuming that for some reason(s) I want some degree of consistency between what I am writing and the handbook? For the moment, assume that I'm writing a section, knowing my material, but using vi and no tool (or method) more sophisticated than occasionally browsing a page-in-progress. I'm more than a little concerned that producing subsequent work for publication (in roff, TeX, or Postscript) from my common text will require more work later... So, if I were the happy volunteer who drew the short straw for the jrandom section of the handbook, posessed only of 2.2.8, what would be my production tool kit? TiA, Eric P.S. Yes, I'm serious, its a software architecture paper series, based upon a 2.0.5-based router/firewall implementation, and a set of alternatives, of which -current is one viable implementation. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 2 17: 8:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25D914E59 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dutch@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (coretel-116-006.charm.net [209.143.116.6]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA07041; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37CF1163.99B1BA89@charm.net> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 20:08:03 -0400 From: Dutch Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: umbclinux@lists.umbc.edu, Freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Recommend a favorite emacs book Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone have a favorite emacs book they would like to recommend. emacs 20.4 is not the same thing I used (PDP-11/45) before. It is not killing me right now, but some of the online docs are still fighting for the chance. I do have keystroke books but no advanced topics; mail and customization. New New CNET is expanding to CNBC with news.com (a tv program) next month. Bet that will will be different. -d --- beach To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 2:29:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EAB14D95; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:29:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA34589; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:27:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199909030927.CAA34589@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13210: device_add_chils_after.9 is obsolete Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: device_add_chils_after.9 is obsolete Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phantom Responsible-Changed-By: mpp Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Sep 3 02:25:53 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: This is Alexey's first assigned PR. He submitted it, and I've reviewed his changes (fine), so he gets to close his own PR :-). Welcome to the committers club, Alexey! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 3:51:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nets5.rz.rwth-aachen.de (nets5.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0846F14F79 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 03:51:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stolz@Pool.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by nets5.rz.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1/7) with ESMTP id MAA01635 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:48:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kuryakin.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (stolz@kuryakin.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.102]) by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1/3) with ESMTP id MAA17249 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:48:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from stolz@localhost) by kuryakin.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1/1) id MAA11020 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:48:38 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:48:37 +0200 From: Volker Stolz To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: WWW-Search engine & Message-ID: <19990903124837.A11010@kuryakin.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Temporary exile in Madrid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I was recently searching the web pages for different things and one thi= ng struck me often: The engine just delivers the URL in plaintext which in the case of the FAQs= for example isn't that useful. Would it be possible to display the <TITLE> of the page, too? I even would offer myself to take a look at it, CGI- & programming experien= ce is at hand. Regards, Volker --=20 Volker Stolz * stolz@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de * PGP --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i iQCVAwUBN8+nhRLpPok/0ba1AQFFggQAgH9NqX954meM2MB5gMptUjGWPWtrQkzb MCGFVQFMt6Q78BETPdG8HaaWoK/r4CfthFpvLOW3nKHY9QWpCpc8P4CbR43qYAyp C1w4AsS/ry9/QQA6I3CijEoYRmhpyEjTMRx3pVlkAXQc2fwcOHUq4mZcZKRbmDW5 LUVwsqjacYA= =Wgtf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 5:37:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bigasia1.bigasia.com (bigasia1.bigasia.com [206.245.188.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F10F14D0E for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 05:37:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 1forum@bigasia1.bigasia.com) Received: (from 1forum@localhost) by bigasia1.bigasia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA23798; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199909031238.IAA23798@bigasia1.bigasia.com> From: Anna <anna1982a@yahoo.com> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Suggestion Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I was searching for information in Altavista and I saw your homepage. Not bad! Maybe you can also add a discussion forum into your homepage so that people can talk and chat on your site. It's fun! Try out this free site http://forum.onecenter.com Hope you find it useful. Keep it up! regards, Anna anna1982a@yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 6:41:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7042314BEC; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 06:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA79966; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 06:39:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 06:39:55 -0700 (PDT) From: <phantom@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909031339.GAA79966@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13226: alpm.4 has not linked to .../man/man4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: alpm.4 has not linked to .../man/man4 State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Fri Sep 3 06:35:31 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied to -CURRENT, but not -STABLE because of code freeze Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phantom Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Sep 3 06:35:31 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll commit patch to -STABLE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 10: 8:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03D6151EB; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA87797; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:47:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA04878; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:04:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:04:19 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Manual pages for 3.2 on website Message-ID: <19990903150419.E99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9908291557040.47871-100000@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9908291557040.47871-100000@hub.freebsd.org>; from Kris Kennaway on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 03:57:59PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 03:57:59PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > The website at http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html#man only lists manual > pages up to 3.1 (i.e. no 3.2). Should I send-pr this? Possibly. Can you see if this URL http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=FreeBSD+3.2-RELEASE works (I'm not near a usable web browser at the moment). If it does then the fix is a trivial addition to www/en/doc.sgml. Cheers, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 10: 8:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FF914DC0 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA87798; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:47:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06502; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:17:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:17:35 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Eric Brunner <brunner@world.std.com> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Query -- editor(s) Message-ID: <19990903151735.G99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199909022351.TAA26000@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199909022351.TAA26000@world.std.com>; from Eric Brunner on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 07:51:22PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 07:51:22PM -0400, Eric Brunner wrote: > What are my choices for writing, assuming that for some reason(s) > I want some degree of consistency between what I am writing and > the handbook? For the moment, assume that I'm writing a section, > knowing my material, but using vi and no tool (or method) more > sophisticated than occasionally browsing a page-in-progress. I'm > more than a little concerned that producing subsequent work for > publication (in roff, TeX, or Postscript) from my common text will > require more work later... I *think* this is two questions -- the first is which DTD, the second is which editor makes using that DTD simple. The DTD choice is easy -- DocBook, or the FreeBSD extended version of it (which only adds a few new elements, which you may not need. The editor choice is more personal. I use Xemacs, because the SGML editing support is pretty good, and it's got nice pull down menus so I don't go mad trying to learn all the M-x combinations (selecting "Regexp replace" from a menu is better for me than trying to remember whether it's "M-x replace-regexp" or "M-x regexp-replace", or whatever the actual function is called). Other's mileage may vary. That lets you write the 'source' to your document. For easy viewing, you probably then want to be able to 'compile' it to HTML, or Postscript. For that you can use the tools in the textproc/docproj port (Jade and TeX, specifically). This will give you the same 'look and feel' as the FDP documents that are currently available. Those are quite 'big' tools though, and can take some time to process large documents. You may find it easier to use a tool like sgmlfmt (also in the docproj port) which is smaller and faster -- your HTML output won't look the same, which is probably not a problem, and you can still preview your work. > So, if I were the happy volunteer who drew the short straw for > the jrandom section of the handbook, posessed only of 2.2.8, what > would be my production tool kit? My personal approach would be to try and install the docproj port, and see how much of that works on 2.2.8. Jade *should*, but it's been a long time since I tried it. If it does work, then great, because you can lever the FDP make infrastructure to make using the tools a no-brainer. You can download the doc/share/* and doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/* directories from CVS, and then add your document under the hierarchy, copy and tweak one of the existing Makefiles, and away you go. If Jade doesn't work then you can fall back to using sgmlfmt and related apps. These aren't used by the FDP anymore, but you can see examples of their use in the /usr/share/mk/bsd.sgml.mk file. Use whichever editor you're comfortable with. If it's got hooks for processing SGML documents then so much the better. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 10: 8:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A2415331; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA87803; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:47:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02644; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:46:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:46:42 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@FreeBSD.org> Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Japanese FAQ on the Web is broken Message-ID: <19990903144642.C99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990826192109K.matusita@matatabi.or.jp> <19990826211830.C86126@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14280.49449.39009.25288P@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <14280.49449.39009.25288P@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 02:12:09PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 02:12:09PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > Some days ago, Norm's dsssl-docbook-modular begins to contain Japanese > i18n modules. It is encoded in Unicode with UTF-8 but my old patches > and Japanese Documentation Project are using EUC-JP encoding. > > I've discussed about it with original author of Norm's Japanese > modules, and we decide it is good way to include UTF-8, EUC-JP and > Shift_JIS encoding in Norm's distribution in current situation of > Japanese encoding scheme problem. > > But (of course, it's my fault) this work has not be done. So Japanese > Handbook will not use 'lang="ja"' until this feature is implemented. That's fine. As long as someone's keeping track of the issues. Incidentally, I sent a message (in English) to doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org a few days ago about a product called DSSSLprint, made by a Japanese firm, that can produce PS and PDF output from SGML + DSSSL stylesheets. This might be another way of solving the jadeTeX problem we're having. I haven't had any feedback from the list members -- do you know if anyone has volunteered to look at that? > > This is a rather convoluted way of saying > > If the tools that process the Japanese documentation have the command > > line flag '-ilang.ja' passed to them, add the additional HTML header > > tags "Content-Type", and set it to "text/html; charset=EUC-JP". > > This is what your web browser is looking for before it will switch to using > > a Japanese font -- note that you could still have told your browser to > > use a Japanese font and the page would like fine, but it's that header > > in the HTML (do "View Source" in any of the Japanese HTML pages to see it) > > that tells your browser to do this automatically. > > Just FYI, according to HTTP/1.1 specification, using "META" tag for > guessing encoding scheme is not the best way. Our pages should return > charset parameter in HTTP header (not HTML header). Yes, I agree. I haven't yet built a complete working mirror of the FreeBSD site so that I can play around with things like that. I think the meta tag solution is acceptable for the moment, until we get docs.freebsd.org working. Also, FWIW, the HTTP header approach means that our mirror sites would also need to do this in their web server config, and it might be tricky to co-ordinate this -- the meta tag means that we don't need the mirrors to do anything special. [ What I really want is for the web server to look at the accepted languages information that some browsers send with their request and go "Oh, I see you've asked for http://www.freebsd.org/, but the first language you've asked for is Japanese, so I'll send you to http://www.ja-JP-eucJP.freebsd.org/ instead. This sort of redirection would *only* work for the main site, and could be overridden by going directly to www.en-US-ISO-8859-1.freebsd.org. I haven't yet had a look at the work necessary to implement this sort of feature -- it's something that'll become more prominent when I take a look at the issues surrounding setting up docs.freebsd.org, and it can be trialled there. ] N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 10: 8:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA9315235; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA87804; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:47:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA04581; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:01:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:01:57 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp> Cc: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>, Documentation Team <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: More safer 'cd's? Message-ID: <19990903150157.D99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <14281.16071.926203.50116H@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <14281.16071.926203.50116H@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 11:08:07PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 11:08:07PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > When I test building documentations in "English and Japanese" only > environment, I sometimes failed because not to set WEB_LANG like > environment variables. > > Can you accept patches like this to change directories more safely? Sure. The patches didn't apply cleanly, so I've added them by hand. Coming soon to a CVS repository near you. . . N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 10: 8:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E321115554 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA87805; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:47:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00148; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:27:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:27:00 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Kelly Yancey <kbyanc@posi.net> Cc: Mike Pritchard <mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/13079: new man page describing timeradd() family of macros Message-ID: <19990903142700.A99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199908130039.TAA00915@mpp.pro-ns.net> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9908141852480.7894-100000@kronos.alcnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9908141852480.7894-100000@kronos.alcnet.com>; from Kelly Yancey on Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 06:54:42PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike, On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 06:54:42PM -0400, Kelly Yancey wrote: > On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Mike Pritchard wrote: > > > > The following reply was made to PR docs/13079; it has been noted by GNATS. > > > > > > Subject: docs/13079: new man page describing timeradd() family of macros > > > > > .Fn timeradd "&tvp" "&uvp" "&vvp" > > > > Should be written as: > > > > .Fn timeradd "struct timeval *tvp" "struct timeval *uvp" "struct timeval *vvp" > > I just used the select(2) page as a prototype for these. The FD_SET > family of macros don't specify the type either. Can I assign this to you? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 10:10: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D3A15578 for <Freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA87807; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:47:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06758; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:19:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:19:37 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Dutch Collins <dutch@charm.net> Cc: umbclinux@lists.umbc.edu, Freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommend a favorite emacs book Message-ID: <19990903151937.H99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <37CF1163.99B1BA89@charm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37CF1163.99B1BA89@charm.net>; from Dutch Collins on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 08:08:03PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 08:08:03PM -0400, Dutch Collins wrote: > Anyone have a favorite emacs book they would like to recommend. emacs > 20.4 is not the same thing I used (PDP-11/45) before. It is not killing > me right now, but some of the online docs are still fighting for the chance. > I do have keystroke books but no advanced topics; mail and customization. If you're just trying to navigate around emacs, and you don't want to program it, I can recommend xemacs. It's got menus (actually, now I think about it, I hear that newer emacs has as well, but it's been ages since I tried it) so that you don't need to spend lots of time learning what the basic commands are, you can just pick them from the menu. It also has a 'teach' mode, where it shows you the name of the function that it ran in response to your menu choice, so you can learn the functions as you go. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 10:10:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1AD158C8; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA87806; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:47:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05321; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:07:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:07:53 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> Cc: Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD Documentation Project <doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: The next exciting installment of docproj.docbook.mk splitting. Message-ID: <19990903150753.F99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990831170213.A97218@mithrandr.moria.org> <19990902155207.B58095@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990902224851.A76126@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990902224851.A76126@mithrandr.moria.org>; from Neil Blakey-Milner on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 10:48:51PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 10:48:51PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > Which just about leaves room for a quick straw poll. Underscores in > > variable names to separate words. Good or bad? > > It's a tough call - the underscores improve readability, but they're > definitely in the minority. > > > name a few. The use of ..._FLAGS vs. ...FLAGS is particularly > > confusing. <snip> > DOCPREFIX vs. DOC_PREFIX? I find it cumbersome to type with the > underscore. All current usage examples use the form without the > underscore. I'll change this as part of new framework. The rest makes sense. Did I hear you volunteering to write this up for the primer :-) N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 10:11:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0956615B82; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA87811; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:47:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01536; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:37:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:37:35 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Cc: nik@freebsd.org, kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp, iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doc/ will not freeze Message-ID: <19990903143735.B99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990830200512.A50805@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990901014753F.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990901014753F.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp>; from horikawa@jp.freebsd.org on Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 01:47:53AM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 01:47:53AM +0900, horikawa@jp.freebsd.org wrote: > The Following is my personal opinion. I know mainly about > doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man and I know little about handbook and FAQ. (I am a > Japanese translator who make diffs to doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man and ask > Mr. Kuriyama to apply the diffs) > > Before RELEASEs were released, some approved commits were made while > src/ tree had been frozen. These approved commits sometimes included > manual pages updates. > > Before RELEASE, I want to update translated manual pages when original > manual pages is updated while src/ is frozen. This is because it is > important to keep original manual pages and translated ones in sync > when RELEASE is made. > > If commits approved by you (and/or nominated persons from each > translation team) are allowed, I do not mind doc/ tree freeze before > RELEASE. My other message from a day or so ago should have made this clear, but just to be explicit -- I think that content changes (for example, translating changes in a manual page from English to Japanese) are fine, and should continue as normal. However, please be particularly careful to ensure that you don't accidentally commit something that breaks the build because of bad formatting. Changes to the build infrastructure should go through me first, and we might hold off on them until 3.3 is out the door. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 10:15:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rucus.ru.ac.za (rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F124D15D86 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:15:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 50274 invoked by uid 1003); 3 Sep 1999 17:15:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:15:24 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> To: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> Cc: FreeBSD Documentation Project <doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: The next exciting installment of docproj.docbook.mk splitting. Message-ID: <19990903191524.A49299@rucus.ru.ac.za> References: <19990831170213.A97218@mithrandr.moria.org> <19990902155207.B58095@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990902224851.A76126@mithrandr.moria.org> <19990903150753.F99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <19990903150753.F99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 03:07:53PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri 1999-09-03 (15:07), Nik Clayton wrote: > I'll change this as part of new framework. > > The rest makes sense. Did I hear you volunteering to write this up for > the primer :-) *grin* I'm about half finished the chapter covering the make/building process. I'm sure I can whip something up describing variable naming. (: Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 10:27:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C7A15578; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA29407; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT) From: <nik@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909031726.KAA29407@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ncalvo@es.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13384: Minor omission in the chapter 'Backups' of the Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Minor omission in the chapter 'Backups' of the Handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Sep 3 10:26:32 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 11:20:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from escambia.se.mediaone.net (escambia.se.mediaone.net [24.129.0.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6142F150F2; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:20:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dstein@mediaone.net) Received: from david (surf114-52-105.jacksonville.net [24.129.52.105]) by escambia.se.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA07289; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000801bef639$4be944a0$6a3efea9@david> From: "David Stein" <dstein@mediaone.net> To: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>, <grog@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Suggestion - List IRC resources Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:22:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF617.C3D43E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF617.C3D43E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to suggest that I haven't seen IRC listed as a resource for = FreeBSD. Currently there is at least two IRC channels on EFNET and I = haven't looked at other servers. Comparatively, there are tons of linux = support channels, and the NetBSD IRC channel has more people than the = two FreeBSD IRC channels. Its great to be able to go to an email list for help. But sometimes its = just as good to go to an IRC channel to chat and get a quick tip. But = this only works if there are plenty of people there so you can get a = couple of opinions and hopefully an expert or two who likes to hang out = in chat. So I'd like to suggest that you include IRC as a possible resource (on = the freebsd.org web site, and in "The Complete FreeBSD"). There are two = channels I know of on EFNET: #freebsdhelp and #freebsdadmin. This = would be a nice addition to the support network for FreeBSD, if there = were more people there. And you can make it happen. =20 Thanks! Dave Stein ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF617.C3D43E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd like to suggest that I haven't seen = IRC listed=20 as a resource for FreeBSD.  Currently there is at least two IRC = channels on=20 EFNET and I haven't looked at other servers.  Comparatively, there = are tons=20 of linux support channels, and the NetBSD IRC channel has more = people than=20 the two FreeBSD IRC channels.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Its great to be able to go to an email = list for=20 help.  But sometimes its just as good to go to an IRC channel to = chat and=20 get a quick tip.  But this only works if there are plenty of people = there=20 so you can get a couple of opinions and hopefully an expert or two who = likes to=20 hang out in chat.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I'd like to suggest that you include = IRC as a=20 possible resource (on the freebsd.org web site, and in "The Complete=20 FreeBSD").  There are two channels I know of on EFNET:  = #freebsdhelp=20 and #freebsdadmin.  This would be a nice addition to the support = network=20 for FreeBSD, if there were more people there.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And you can make it happen.  = </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dave Stein</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEF617.C3D43E60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 11:52:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.psn.net (saturn.psn.net [207.211.58.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEB21578D for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:52:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (5042-243.008.popsite.net [209.224.140.243]) by saturn.psn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08559; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:56:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA65495; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:51:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: <XFMail.990903145148.andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000801bef639$4be944a0$6a3efea9@david> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Will Andrews <andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> From: Will Andrews <andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> To: David Stein <dstein@mediaone.net> Subject: RE: Suggestion - List IRC resources Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 03-Sep-99 David Stein wrote: > I'd like to suggest that I haven't seen IRC listed as a resource for FreeBSD. > Currently there is at least two IRC channels on EFNET and I haven't looked at > other servers. Comparatively, there are tons of linux support channels, and > the NetBSD IRC channel has more people than the two FreeBSD IRC channels. There's three I know of (minus secret channels ;). Try #FreeBSD on (EF,Under,DAL)net. > So I'd like to suggest that you include IRC as a possible resource (on the > freebsd.org web site, and in "The Complete FreeBSD"). There are two channels > I know of on EFNET: #freebsdhelp and #freebsdadmin. This would be a nice > addition to the support network for FreeBSD, if there were more people there. IRC channels are spontaneous and not really within Walnut Creek's control, so it may not be such a good idea to include all such resources in "The Complete FreeBSD". -- Will Andrews <andrews@technologist.com> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 12:45:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3C915729 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01928 for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:34:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:34:04 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: doc packages for testing Message-ID: <19990903193404.A1636@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I've put HTML, split HTML, and TEXT versions of all the documentation in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/doc/pkg/. I'd be greatful if people could try using the pkg_* tools on these, and check that everything installs as you would expect. I've also put up PS, PDF, and RTF versions of the English docs in the same directory (I haven't done the other languages because I'm not sure the conversion process works properly for them -- for languages where it does, please let me know). Assuming feedback is good, this will become a regular feature, updated daily or (more likely, because of the rate of change) weekly. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 14:14:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dhabat.pair.com (dhabat.pair.com [209.68.1.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E9614C96 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:14:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alanp@dhabat.pair.com) Received: (from alanp@localhost) by dhabat.pair.com (8.9.1/8.6.12) id RAA13357; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:13:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-To: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <19990903171352.A13065@unixpower.org> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:13:52 -0400 From: "Alan P. Laudicina " <alanp@unixpower.org> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources References: <000801bef639$4be944a0$6a3efea9@david> <XFMail.990903145148.andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <XFMail.990903145148.andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>; from Will Andrews on Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 02:51:48PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 02:51:48PM -0400, Will Andrews wrote: > There's three I know of (minus secret channels ;). Try #FreeBSD on > (EF,Under,DAL)net. > Are we forgetting about irc.freebsd.org? > > IRC channels are spontaneous and not really within Walnut Creek's control, so > it may not be such a good idea to include all such resources in "The Complete > FreeBSD". > I could have sworn irc.freebsd.org was within Walnot Creek's control. -- | Alan L. * Webmaster of www.UnixPower.org | | Windsor Unix Users Group Founder: http://unix.windsor.on.ca/ | | Personal Page: http://www.unixpower.org/alanp/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 17: 7:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C0314EA1 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:07:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00771; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02348; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199909040005.UAA02348@sable.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990903171352.A13065@unixpower.org> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:05:51 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> To: "Alan P. Laudicina" <alanp@unixpower.org> Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources Cc: doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First of all, some of these channels *are* mentioned in the Preface section of the FAQ. On 03-Sep-99 Alan P. Laudicina wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 02:51:48PM -0400, Will Andrews wrote: >> IRC channels are spontaneous and not really within Walnut Creek's >> control, so >> it may not be such a good idea to include all such resources in "The >> Complete >> FreeBSD". > > I could have sworn irc.freebsd.org was within Walnot Creek's control. Secondly, this channel is completely dead. I doubt anyone will get much help there. --- John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 18:12:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (mail-gw2.pacbell.net [206.13.28.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0514F14CA8 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:12:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from codyc@pacbell.net) Received: from [216.101.133.22] (adsl-216-101-133-22.dsl.frsn01.pacbell.net [216.101.133.22]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA20108 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909040112.SAA20108@mail-gw2.pacbell.net> Subject: Dvorak Keyboard Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:12:11 -0700 x-sender: codyc@postoffice.pacbell.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: codyc <codyc@pacbell.net> To: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am an Apple Campus Representative for California State University, Fresno. I am using Mac OS X, based on FreeBSD 4.4. I was wondering if you could answer one question, is there a Dvorak Keyboard layout for FreeBSD 4.4 and if so where can I get it. I have scoured the net looking for it and was hoping you would be able to point me in the right direction. Your search engine was down when I tried it. TIA, Cody Charette To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 21:45:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dhabat.pair.com (dhabat.pair.com [209.68.1.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F331507B for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 21:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alanp@dhabat.pair.com) Received: (from alanp@localhost) by dhabat.pair.com (8.9.1/8.6.12) id AAA25830; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 00:43:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-To: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <19990904004338.A25705@unixpower.org> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 00:43:38 -0400 From: "Alan P. Laudicina " <alanp@unixpower.org> To: codyc <codyc@pacbell.net> Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dvorak Keyboard References: <199909040112.SAA20108@mail-gw2.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <199909040112.SAA20108@mail-gw2.pacbell.net>; from codyc on Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 06:12:11PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 06:12:11PM -0700, codyc wrote: > Hi, I am an Apple Campus Representative for California State University, > Fresno. I am using Mac OS X, based on FreeBSD 4.4. I was wondering if you Wasn't Mac OS X based on NetBSD? There isn't a FreeBSD 4.4 BTW. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. > > -- | Alan L. * Webmaster of www.UnixPower.org | | Windsor Unix Users Group Founder: http://unix.windsor.on.ca/ | | Personal Page: http://www.unixpower.org/alanp/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 3 22:50:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB51150F7 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24450 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 23:49:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA63641 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 23:49:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909040549.XAA63641@harmony.village.org> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Help Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:49:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@village.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK. I'm feeling silly. How do I link to the latest security advisories I just sent out in the newsflash section of the web pages? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 1:25:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1172C15199 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 01:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA07408; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:26:19 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id LAA01042; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:09:14 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:09:13 +0400 From: Alexey Zelkin <phantom@cris.net> To: codyc <codyc@pacbell.net> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dvorak Keyboard Message-ID: <19990904110913.A1026@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <199909040112.SAA20108@mail-gw2.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199909040112.SAA20108@mail-gw2.pacbell.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 06:12:11PM -0700, codyc wrote: > Hi, I am an Apple Campus Representative for California State University, > Fresno. I am using Mac OS X, based on FreeBSD 4.4. I was wondering if you Sure that you mean BSD4.4 -- {Free|Net|Open}BSD 4.4 still not released -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavrical National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 1:36:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from terrapin.ru.ac.za (terrapin.ru.ac.za [146.231.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC04514D0C for <doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 01:36:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org) Received: from duca.dialup.ru.ac.za ([146.231.98.24] helo=mithrandr.moria.org) by terrapin.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11NBIT-0007xO-00 for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 04 Sep 1999 10:35:41 +0200 Received: (qmail 6062 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Sep 1999 08:33:57 -0000 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:33:57 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> To: Warner Losh <imp@village.org> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help Message-ID: <19990904103357.A5914@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <199909040549.XAA63641@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199909040549.XAA63641@harmony.village.org>; from Warner Losh on Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 11:49:44PM -0600 Organization: Rhodes University Computer Users' Society X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri 1999-09-03 (23:49), Warner Losh wrote: > OK. I'm feeling silly. How do I link to the latest security > advisories I just sent out in the newsflash section of the web pages? In news/newsflash.sgml, just follow the examples in there for links, basically HTML, if you haven't worked it out already. Something like: Index: newsflash.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/www/en/news/newsflash.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.133 diff -u -r1.133 newsflash.sgml --- newsflash.sgml 1999/08/10 23:32:34 1.133 +++ newsflash.sgml 1999/09/04 08:31:52 @@ -27,6 +27,19 @@ <p>For a detailed description of past, present, and future releases, see the <strong><a href="&base/releases/index.html">Release Information</a></strong> page.</p> + + <h2>September 1999</h2> + + <ul> + <li><b>3-Sep-1999</b> Two security advisories released, + <a +href="ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-99:01.chflags"> + BSD File Flags and Programming Techniques</a> and <a +href="ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-99:02.profil"> + Profiling across exec calls</a>. + </li> + </ul> + <h2>August 1999</h2> You should also create a link from security/security.sgml to the ftp site, as with the previous advisories contained in there. Sorry if you've already done this, I haven't had time to check yet. Cheers, Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 2:30:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D153914EF1; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 02:30:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from foxfair@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA94046; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 02:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 02:28:33 -0700 (PDT) From: <foxfair@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909040928.CAA94046@freefall.freebsd.org> To: foxfair@drago.cert.org.tw, foxfair@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13411: Update book.sgml of en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update book.sgml of en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: foxfair State-Changed-When: Sat Sep 4 02:28:10 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: PAtch committed, close it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 4: 2:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79211520C for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 04:02:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA98907; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 04:01:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from terrapin.ru.ac.za (terrapin.ru.ac.za [146.231.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C577914F44 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 03:50:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org) Received: from duca.dialup.ru.ac.za ([146.231.98.24] helo=mithrandr.moria.org) by terrapin.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11NDNp-00099Q-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:49:22 +0200 Received: (qmail 7606 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Sep 1999 10:27:23 -0000 Message-Id: <19990904102723.7605.qmail@mithrandr.moria.org> Date: 4 Sep 1999 10:27:23 -0000 From: nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za Reply-To: nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13571: Fix DOC_PREFIX to use .CURDIR (to make obj builds safe) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13571 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Fix DOC_PREFIX to use .CURDIR (to make obj builds safe) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Sep 4 04:01:28 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Neil Blakey-Milner >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Rhodes University Computer Users' Society >Environment: FreeBSD mithrandr.moria.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #1: Fri Sep 3 17:46:29 SAST 1999 nbm@mithrandr.moria.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/MITHRANDR i386 >Description: Synopsis just about covers it - build fails if the object directory exists. >How-To-Repeat: cd /usr/doc/en*/art*/committers-guide && make obj && make >Fix: Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/nbm/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/09/03 17:10:42 1.1 +++ Makefile 1999/09/04 10:18:36 @@ -21,5 +21,5 @@ # SGML content SRCS= article.sgml -DOC_PREFIX?= ../../.. +DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 4:24:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.psn.net (saturn.psn.net [207.211.58.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83368151FA for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 04:24:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (5042-243.008.popsite.net [209.224.140.243]) by saturn.psn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22182; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 04:28:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA37197; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:23:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: <XFMail.990904072349.andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990903171352.A13065@unixpower.org> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 07:23:49 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Will Andrews <andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> From: Will Andrews <andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> To: "Alan P. Laudicina" <alanp@unixpower.org> Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 03-Sep-99 Alan P. Laudicina wrote: > Are we forgetting about irc.freebsd.org? irc.freebsd.org is, for the most part, dead. I've never seen anyone talk there, although I really don't spend much time there. There are more committers on EFnet's #FreeBSD than there are people on irc.freebsd.org. > I could have sworn irc.freebsd.org was within Walnot Creek's control. I said "it may not be such a good idea to include _all_ such resources" instead of "it may not be such a good idea to include _any_ such resources". Of course, I haven't been on irc.freebsd.org in some time. -- Will Andrews <andrews@technologist.com> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 4:31: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A601524F; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 04:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp355.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.55]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id UAA21119; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 20:29:06 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.1) with ESMTP id UAA16711; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 20:29:04 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 20:29:02 +0900 Message-ID: <14289.638.748885.12187T@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@FreeBSD.org> To: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>, Documentation Team <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: More safer 'cd's? In-Reply-To: In your message of "Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:01:57 +0100" <19990903150157.D99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <14281.16071.926203.50116H@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <19990903150157.D99849@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Sure. The patches didn't apply cleanly, so I've added them by hand. > Coming soon to a CVS repository near you. . . Sorry, it seems I've committed them too quickly. :-) Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 6: 2: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618CE1506A; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 06:01:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA08529; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 05:59:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 05:59:03 -0700 (PDT) From: <phantom@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909041259.FAA08529@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13227: [PATCH] some staff in .../man/man4/i386 not marked as i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] some staff in .../man/man4/i386 not marked as i386 State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Sat Sep 4 05:57:05 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch commited in -CURRENT, but not -STABLE because of code freeze. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phantom Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Sep 4 05:57:05 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll commit it to -STABLE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 6:44:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30E8152DA; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 06:44:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.94]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA689B; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:43:41 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14349; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:33:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:33:28 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> To: David Stein <dstein@mediaone.net> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources Message-ID: <19990904153328.E76472@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <000801bef639$4be944a0$6a3efea9@david> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <000801bef639$4be944a0$6a3efea9@david> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * David Stein (dstein@mediaone.net) [990903 21:03]: >I'd like to suggest that I haven't seen IRC listed as a resource for FreeBSD. Currently there is at least two IRC channels on EFNET and I haven't looked at other servers. Comparatively, there are tons of linux support channels, and the NetBSD IRC channel has more people than the two FreeBSD IRC channels. Hmmm Then you never tried #FreeBSD on Undernet or EFNet before. >Its great to be able to go to an email list for help. But sometimes its just as good to go to an IRC channel to chat and get a quick tip. But this only works if there are plenty of people there so you can get a couple of opinions and hopefully an expert or two who likes to hang out in chat. WARNING: get a clue first. IRC is what it is, chat, and a lot of clue can be gotten there, but don't forget to RTFM [with a silent `f'] first, lest you like to get embarrased a little ;) Cheerio, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai> Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Things do not change, we change. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 7:57:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA0914F01; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:57:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA64145; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:57:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:57:28 -0700 (PDT) From: <phantom@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909041457.HAA64145@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13256: [PATCH] security.7 style and copyright section modifications Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] security.7 style and copyright section modifications State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Sat Sep 4 07:55:34 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Modified patch commited in -CURRENT, but not -STABLE because of code freeze Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phantom Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Sep 4 07:55:34 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll commit this patch to -STABLE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 8:48:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D49115E71 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 08:48:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA54366; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:54:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:54:56 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> Cc: Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help Message-ID: <19990904155456.A52990@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199909040549.XAA63641@harmony.village.org> <19990904103357.A5914@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990904103357.A5914@mithrandr.moria.org>; from Neil Blakey-Milner on Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 10:33:57AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 10:33:57AM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > On Fri 1999-09-03 (23:49), Warner Losh wrote: > > OK. I'm feeling silly. How do I link to the latest security > > advisories I just sent out in the newsflash section of the web pages? > > In news/newsflash.sgml, just follow the examples in there for links, > basically HTML, if you haven't worked it out already. Similarly, thou shalt always update www/en/news/webchanges.sgml as well. Let me say at this point that I don't particularly like having to do this. We have the information in the CVS logs already, and we should be able to pull it out easily enough. There was an announcement on Freshmeat (http://www.freshmeat.net/) a few weeks back about a small app that would take a tree of CVS files and build a GNU style ChangeLog file from the CVS log messages. A search for "CVS ChangeLog" on Freshmeat should find it. If someone were to investigate this, and possibly bolt on a new option so that it would output HTML instead then we could make the generation of webchanges.sgml completely automatic. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 8:53:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from escambia.se.mediaone.net (escambia.se.mediaone.net [24.129.0.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1AC14E53 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 08:53:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dstein@mediaone.net) Received: from snoopy (jas122-18.jacksonville.net [24.129.59.143]) by escambia.se.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA16057; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:52:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "David" <dstein@mediaone.net> To: "Will Andrews" <andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> Cc: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: Suggestion - List IRC resources Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:07:31 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bef6ef$97e163e0$8f3b8118@snoopy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <XFMail.990903145148.andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I hope you'll reconsider. Certainly many books that list Internet references also mention IRC. Personally, I can't count how many times I've gone to IRC for some question or another. Its quick, easy, and you don't have to subscribe to an email list. (That's not to say email lists are bad, just to say that everything has pros/cons.) > IRC channels are spontaneous and not really within Walnut Creek's > control, so > it may not be such a good idea to include all such resources in > "The Complete > FreeBSD". I agree complete that they can be spontaneous and not within Walnut Creek's control. But again my experience has been that they can be invaluable resources and many successful IRC channels remain as fairly stable meeting places. I don't think it would hurt anything to say something like: You may also want to check out IRC channels on EFNET, DALNET, or UNDERNET such as #FreeBSD, #FreeBSDHelp, #FreeBSDAdmin, or other channels that contain the word "FreeBSD". Be fair warned, however, that the quality of responses you get may vary. I'd like to say I'm not personally involved with any of these IRC channels. I'm a "newbie" to FreeBSD. I just thought it would help to get more people into some of the IRC channels to make it a better resource for all of us. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 9: 0: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518CD15015; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 08:59:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA68251; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 08:59:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 08:59:16 -0700 (PDT) From: <phantom@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909041559.IAA68251@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13406: ctime(3) has one grammar errors and one spelling eror Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ctime(3) has one grammar errors and one spelling eror State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Sat Sep 4 08:57:02 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Slightly modified patch is applied to -CURRENT. Thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phantom Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Sep 4 08:57:02 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll commit that to -STABLE after code freeze To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 10: 5:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8915914E74; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org) Received: from [212.126.149.181] (helo=cream.org) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 11NJEy-0004Ui-00; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 17:04:37 +0000 Content-Length: 845 Message-ID: <XFMail.990904180010.andrew@ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990904155456.A52990@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:00:10 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman <andrew@ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org> To: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Help Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Sep-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > There was an announcement on Freshmeat (http://www.freshmeat.net/) a > few weeks back about a small app that would take a tree of CVS files > and build a GNU style ChangeLog file from the CVS log messages. A > search for "CVS ChangeLog" on Freshmeat should find it. I've looked into this and the relevent page is http://www.red-bean.com/~kfogel/cvs2cl.shtml Two problems : 1) When I run it I get : ./cvs2cl.pl: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<plaintext>' ./cvs2cl.pl: line 1: `<plaintext>' 2) I know very little about CVS and I'm not sure how to use it. Is it possible to get the logs needed without storing the CVS repository on my own machine? Thanks! --- Andrew Boothman <andrew@ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org> FreeBSD UK User Group http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/~andrew/ http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 10:19:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3A7157B6; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:19:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-157-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHJ0081NP60ZJ@mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:13:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA41643; Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:15:32 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:15:32 -0500 From: Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> Subject: Re: Help In-reply-to: <19990904155456.A52990@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> To: Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990904121532.I35349@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i References: <199909040549.XAA63641@harmony.village.org> <19990904103357.A5914@mithrandr.moria.org> <19990904155456.A52990@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 04, 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > Similarly, thou shalt always update www/en/news/webchanges.sgml as well. > > Let me say at this point that I don't particularly like having to do this. > We have the information in the CVS logs already, and we should be able > to pull it out easily enough. > > There was an announcement on Freshmeat (http://www.freshmeat.net/) a > few weeks back about a small app that would take a tree of CVS files > and build a GNU style ChangeLog file from the CVS log messages. A > search for "CVS ChangeLog" on Freshmeat should find it. > > If someone were to investigate this, and possibly bolt on a new option > so that it would output HTML instead then we could make the generation > of webchanges.sgml completely automatic. Well, if you want to change the nature of that file entirely. The page lists "user visible" changes. If you fix a spacing error in www/en/internal/machines.sgml (off the top of my head; may be named differently), do you want that going into the webchanges.html file? (Speaking of that, there's a typo on webchanges.sgml!) -- |Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> |Programming is an art form that fights back. `-------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 10:33:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B741156FB for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:33:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (Hamilton-ppp44867.sympatico.ca [206.172.76.60]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11159; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 13:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA41224; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 13:32:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 13:32:37 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek <vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca> To: David <dstein@mediaone.net> Cc: Will Andrews <andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources Message-ID: <19990904133237.B39038@mad> References: <XFMail.990903145148.andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> <000001bef6ef$97e163e0$8f3b8118@snoopy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <000001bef6ef$97e163e0$8f3b8118@snoopy>; from David on Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 12:07:31PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 12:07:31PM -0400, David wrote: > I hope you'll reconsider. Certainly many books that list Internet > references also mention IRC. Personally, I can't count how many times I've It has been considered in the past and rejected. IRC has caused newbies (and thus us) enough angst without being listed as an official resource. They tend to get abused on IRC and then come squawking about it over here (where "here" is any of -chat, -questions, -doc, -etc). -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 10:39: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from satsuma.mail.easynet.net (satsuma.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126F614BE3 for <FreeBSD-Doc@FreeBSD.org>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:39:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from cream.org (boothman.easynet.co.uk [194.154.100.117]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40867B009 for <FreeBSD-Doc@FreeBSD.org>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:38:26 +0100 (BST) Content-Length: 466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <XFMail.990904183336.andrew@cream.org> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:34:01 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman <andrew@cream.org> To: FreeBSD-Doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current FDP supfile Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All, Sorry for the silly question, but I'm a little confused. Is the following a suitable supfile to download all the doc source and install it in the 'standard' place? *default host=CVSup.uk.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress doc-all Thanks! --- Andrew Boothman <andrew@cream.org> http://sour.cream.org Unmetered Telecoms. Join the Fight! http://www.unmetered.org.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 10:47:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sand5.global.net.uk (sand5.global.net.uk [194.126.80.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41FF15228 for <FreeBSD-Doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:47:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from p75s08a07.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.232.118] helo=marder-1.) by sand5.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11NJs2-0008JX-00; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:44:59 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id SAA00812; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:37:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:37:07 +0100 From: Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> To: Andrew Boothman <andrew@cream.org> Cc: FreeBSD-Doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Current FDP supfile Message-ID: <19990904183707.A716@marder-1> References: <XFMail.990904183336.andrew@cream.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <XFMail.990904183336.andrew@cream.org>; from Andrew Boothman on Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 06:34:01PM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 06:34:01PM +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: > All, > > Sorry for the silly question, but I'm a little confused. Is the following a > suitable supfile to download all the doc source and install it in the > 'standard' place? > > *default host=CVSup.uk.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=. > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > > doc-all > Yes. That'll do it. If you don't want all the foreign language docs then add the following to the file /usr/sup/refuse: doc/es* doc/ja* doc/ru* doc/zh* If your cvsup the ports tree then the following (in the same file) will exclude the foreign language ports: ports/chinese ports/german ports/japanese ports/korean ports/russian ports/vietnamese > Thanks! > --- > Andrew Boothman <andrew@cream.org> > http://sour.cream.org > Unmetered Telecoms. Join the Fight! > http://www.unmetered.org.uk > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 12:55: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D92715860 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:54:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 589F71C24; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490063817; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:56:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola <billf@jade.chc-chimes.com> To: David <dstein@mediaone.net> Cc: Will Andrews <andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Suggestion - List IRC resources In-Reply-To: <000001bef6ef$97e163e0$8f3b8118@snoopy> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909041456240.15084-100000@jade.chc-chimes.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, David wrote: > I hope you'll reconsider. Certainly many books that list Internet > references also mention IRC. Personally, I can't count how many times I've > gone to IRC for some question or another. Its quick, easy, and you don't > have to subscribe to an email list. (That's not to say email lists are bad, > just to say that everything has pros/cons.) http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/preface.html#AEN183 -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 16:55:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.psn.net (saturn.psn.net [207.211.58.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DCF1544A for <FreeBSD-Doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:55:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (5042-243.008.popsite.net [209.224.140.243]) by saturn.psn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00826; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:59:29 -0700 (MST) Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01352; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 19:54:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: <XFMail.990904195454.andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <XFMail.990904183336.andrew@cream.org> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 19:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Will Andrews <andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> From: Will Andrews <andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM> To: Andrew Boothman <andrew@cream.org> Subject: RE: Current FDP supfile Cc: FreeBSD-Doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Sep-99 Andrew Boothman wrote: > *default host=CVSup.uk.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=. > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > > doc-all This seems to match my doc-supfile... you can find an example copy in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/. It will do cvsup on /usr/sup/doc-all. I highly suggest blocking out doc/es* doc/jp* doc/zh* or whatever languages you do not wish to work on. -- Will Andrews <andrews@technologist.com> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 21:47:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B3B14E26; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 21:47:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA14621; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 21:47:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 21:47:27 -0700 (PDT) From: <mpp@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909050447.VAA14621@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, mpp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13079: new man page describing timeradd() family of macros Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: new man page describing timeradd() family of macros Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mpp Responsible-Changed-By: mpp Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Sep 4 21:46:01 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll field this one, since Nik asked if I would do so. I just have to pass this by bde for style before commit. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 4 23:12:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9313014F7D; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:12:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA19234; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:12:35 -0700 (PDT) From: <phantom@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909050612.XAA19234@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13408: diffbusrt.1 has style inconsistences Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: diffbusrt.1 has style inconsistences State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Sat Sep 4 23:10:21 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch commited in -CURRENT, but not -STABLE because of code freeze Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phantom Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Sep 4 23:10:21 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll commit it to -STABLE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message