Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 13:57:53 +0200 From: Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org> To: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>, Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org> Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org, Mark Felder <feld@freebsd.org>, Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r349818 - head/www/nginx Message-ID: <7F3CD6E10C73DF9C269015EE@ogg.in.absolight.net> In-Reply-To: <20140409084542.GB10692@FreeBSD.org> References: <201404010040.s310e5en074822@svn.freebsd.org> <5342F077.8000105@freebsd.org> <C72A0BB6-90BF-4456-ABD1-5F51AD352946@FreeBSD.org> <20140409060926.GA94220@FreeBSD.org> <131A373C19AA83C05705C628@atuin.in.mat.cc> <20140409084542.GB10692@FreeBSD.org>
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We're digressing quite a bit from the original point here, but anyway. +--On 9 avril 2014 08:45:42 +0000 Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org> wrote: | On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 10:06:18AM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote: |> Well, no, it is *not* what a mentor should say. PORTREVISION and |> PORTEPOCH should be set when they need to be, they should not be avoided |> because someone think they're ugly. [...] | | Mathieu, while what you (and PH) says is correct, it does not mean that | we should not put any thinking when it comes to bumping PORTEPOCH. Surely | tools exist to be made use of if it helps to solve the problem; but every | solution comes at a price, and careful/experienced committer would | probably have selected better one. Often "better" means "less ugly", and | I do not see why any mentor should not encourage their mentees to select | the least ugly/intrusive choice among equally functional ones. Yes, of course, some old timers have devised hacks and tricks to make due without ever using PORTEPOCH, which are, mostly, but not entierly, either bad or good. Now, the point was that a new committer doesn't have the experience to do so, and thus, can follow the manual, because the manual is right, you use PORTEPOCH when you need to. Some people do feel it's ugly and they go at great length to not use it, I have nothing against it. But do not tell someone it's wrong to use PORTEPOCH, it is ok to use it, when needed :-) -- Mathieu Arnold
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