Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:37:56 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> To: Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> Cc: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ORBS vs MAPS Message-ID: <20000720103756.A49001@mithrandr.moria.org> In-Reply-To: <v04220800b59c61ec5cf4@[10.0.1.2]>; from blk@skynet.be on Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 10:01:43AM %2B0200 References: <NCBBLIEPOCNJOAEKBEAKMEBNJNAA.davids@webmaster.com> <v04220800b59c61ec5cf4@[10.0.1.2]>
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On Thu 2000-07-20 (10:01), Brad Knowles wrote: > > ORBS consistently attempts to pass email through other people's machines > > through the use of spoofed headers. This is illegal in many jurisdictions. > > IMO, a single spoofed header is SPAM and network abuse. > > No, they don't spoof any headers at all. In fact, they clearly > label all the test e-mail they send as being from their testing > server. > > They do try all the same standard tricks on the sender and > recipient addresses that junkmailers are known to try, to see if the > machine in question might not properly look inside quotes, or > mistakenly think that they can trust the claimed envelope sender as > opposed to looking at the IP address, etc.... > > However, this isn't spoofing headers. Of course, if I attempt to block their spam, by blackholing their traffic, or bouncing all mail from them, or whatever action I'd take with any other spammer, I get added to their list. Friendly, eh? While I tend to keep out of spam wars, I got really pissed off when the student server I was helping to administer was added to ORBS because it "shared a nameserver with" a machine at another university over 1000 kilometers away. Scary. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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