Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 20:38:37 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> To: NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> Cc: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, Thomas Mueller <mueller6724@bellsouth.net>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <20160128173836.GD88527@zxy.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <A639FA8D-8922-4BA9-8C24-57B48EFACDAA@gmail.com> References: <20160127223323.GG98557@FreeBSD.org> <183431.62409.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20160128131806.GB67200@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160128160622.GB88527@zxy.spb.ru> <A639FA8D-8922-4BA9-8C24-57B48EFACDAA@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 09:28:32AM -0800, NGie Cooper wrote: > > > On Jan 28, 2016, at 08:06, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote: > > > ... > > > What about upgrade strongly outdated system? > > For example 11.0 at time 18.0? I.e. packages for 11.0 don't available, > > pkg from 11.0 don't undertund package base from 18.0 and etc. > > This is an important question to ask and solve. There might be > points in time where seamless upgrades are not possible, and instead > you need to hop from release to release (this is not ideal, but it > could happen). I see two side of this problem: support in sofware and support in infrastructure (ftp.freebsd.org and etc.). Because pkg is not part of base FreeBSD and live in ports -- this hops need to preserve (and testing?) packages collections for all past releases and don't move it to archive. And regular resigning package databases. And I miss somewere. > For instance, at $work we're allowing upgrades from version X to Y, > and Y to Z, but not direct upgrades from X to Z. Part of the > rationale behind this change is, deprecation of platforms and the > change in upgrade framework, which requires upgrading from blessed > releases proven to work with the new framework. This is common practic, yes. This is acceptably if possible got all necessary in time 18.0 for upgrade from 11.0.
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