Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:49:18 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> To: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com>, Boris Samorodov <bsam@passap.ru>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail/imaptools: port removal at Monday April 9th Message-ID: <201204101549.q3AFnI1n013764@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: Your message "Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:27:31 CDT." <20120409182731.GA31438@lonesome.com>
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Hi, Mark Linimon wrote: > On 9 April 2012 17:49, Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com> wrote: > >> portmgr's policy is to honor removal requests, no matter the circumstances. > > ................................................ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > Irresponsible. Real 'Managers' shoulder responsibility. So ... > > Real managers get paid. > > Real managers get paid by companies. > > Real managers get paid by companies with legal departments who will > defend them from frivolous lawsuits, and pay them during the period > of time while the frivolous lawsuit works its way through the US court > system. > > I have given thousands of hours of free work to this project. I'm > damned sure not going to incur any legal liability on top of that, > even if due to someone wanting to take an unreasonable position. OK > Perhaps the legal system in Germany is less broken than the US. I > certainly hope so. I believe Britain (& maybe Germany) have a lower percentage of lawyers than USA. > But until you sit in my seat, and have been threatened with lawsuits > in the past for equally unreasonable situations, you simply don't > know what you're talking about. "Been there, Done that, Got the T shirt" ;-) I've been personaly legaly threatened even just managing a company's law suit against a Canadian debtor. Learnt: Their game: intimidation, their message: "Our lawyer is richer than your lawyer" I've sued (& won) for debt: Learnt: Even trivial law cases can take Years. I've helped head a club with events with risk to life, Learnt: Insurance! Have you enquired for FreeBSD if the Foundation could afford insurance for key named central staff ? It's something companies that donate might relate to, & if added to Foundation web, might attract extra donations. I've helped run a club that left volunteers in office too long till they felt the club owed them, some got fractious & some burnt out. Learnt: That's why boards of directors have compulsory resignation by rotation. (with option to stand for re-election) The name 'Manager' asserts both authority & responsibility. As portsmgr can't take decisions with risk of responsibility, ... Change portmgr@ to match reality, (port-adm@ maybe ?). Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/
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