Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:41:51 -0500 From: Drew Baxter <netmonger@genesis.ispace.com> To: Pat Lynch <lynch@rush.net> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: http://www.performance-computing.com/features/9810of1.shtml Message-ID: <4.1.19981025233819.00a458a0@genesis.ispace.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810252120100.5879-100000@bytor.rush.net> References: <4.1.0.67.19981024114643.00a63ad0@genesis.ispace.com>
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I'm not saying it like that. I'm saying that's where Linux teen kiddies come in. Besides, some attacks have diagnostic value. While I just got a hardware firewall (and I already hate it, I got locked out of my network across the weekend) that claims to block certain types of attacks, I may want to check just to see if it supports 'newer' ones. Don't forget, most exploits are posted to databases (i.e. bugtraq) as soon as they are discovered. By the way, Smurf (as well as others) don't compile on FreeBSD because of a lack of certain header files that Linux has. If I recall many of them are in netinet/... Also, this is an example. There are some intuitive Linux programs that can't compile for the same reason. Sure, people should port, but I'm not one to fix 250 various compile errors (of which could be linked to one line of code, but still) if I don't have to. So as it goes, I'm forced to have a Linux box, a Solaris X86 box, and a FreeBSD box. Of course, I like my FreeBSD box most of all, because of how long i've been using FreeBSD. At 09:21 PM 10/25/98 -0500, Pat Lynch wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >personally, good, it "can't compile smurf.c" smurf is a network attack, >not a useful tool. > >personally FreeBSD doesn;t need that kind of "support" if a script kiddy >isn;t smart enough to make it compile, then thats great. > >- -P > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net >Systems Administrator Rush Networking > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Drew Baxter wrote: > >> Nice article, definitely.. I especially liked the choice of graphic art, >> and the remark about Grandma's lung machine.. :) >> >> I guess the big thing is, the little teenies playing "elite hacker" isn't >> going to care about the whole GPL thing. It'd be kinda cool to see the >> ability to compile for any OS (ultimate compatibility) so you could tell >> FreeBSD "Well this compiled on Solaris.." and set a flag.. The word on the >> teen street is "FreeBSD can't compile smurf.c".. >> >> I guess a clean-cut userbase is a little better than ones that want to >> wreck stuff, but at the same time it's a +1 on the Linux side of things.. I >> installed RHS for a week and immediately killed the box, as it goes I'm >> playing with Solaris x86 (cost me 10 bucks, no args here) and I am still >> rather distraught of its lack of a C compiler, gzip, etc. so that one is >> clearly going out the door as well.. >> >> --- >> Drew "Droobie" Baxter >> Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) >> OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 >> http://www.droo.orland.me.us >> My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT >1998 >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message >> > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.2 > >iQCVAwUBNjPcp8Gd9jPuKvqVAQHdbgQAtQdpwjDLL2ThzmL/vUmZOTfQ8amOvfuh >FGSqSYpukOqXk/me3UspxnX8SCF3WCJrPnXzghp6GFfM2VoEVK/Qj+B/aBqQsOVL >jhvi+pI7kEz1zjrtx4+5Fx6N7zA7cqcj+5LVpfHW6JvNHHvzoKQZF1/OHqHKta+W >KZFTPZb8WDM= >=Afs6 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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