From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 24 8:53:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (snafu.adept.org [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB3F37B406 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by snafu.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5287B9EE06; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snafu.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6819B00C; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:53:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: Jason Andresen Cc: Jason DiCioccio , Mike Tancsa , Sung Nae Cho , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc="1"...... In-Reply-To: <3B5D94E7.4680ACEF@mitre.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Jason Andresen wrote: > I think the problem was that FreeBSD started getting killed in various > benchmarks. Suddenly we have a filesystem that writes slower than > Solaris and that slows down the entire box. Also, as a desktop OS > many people noticed that their FreeBSD boxes were writing much slower > than even the Windows NT boxes. It was really painful. *sigh* I think the problem is people reading (and conducting) benchmarks without understanding what's being tested and how, etc. Unfortuneately then, the reason I chose FreeBSD (server-tuned OS) so many years ago is no longer valid. Of course, I knew this would eventually happen in our race to keep up with the ever popular penguin (oh YAY!). > Finally, the people who really need the sort of protection that sync > writes gives are the kind who will know to turn off the write cache. Yeah, I remember arguments like this for some other changes too. > A sysinstall prompt would be nice though. An even nicer option > would be a little menu on the diskLabel part of the install that > asks what options you want to enable on the filesystem when you > create it (softupdates, etc...). Not a bad idea... should be much easier to implement since softupdates became more 'standard' (no more licensing issues). :) Later, -Mike -- Log analysis mailing list: http://www.adept.org/mailinglists.html#logwatchers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message