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In message: <20031116191819.O10222-100000@mail.chesapeake.net>
            Jeff Roberson <jroberson@chesapeake.net> writes:
: > <<On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:04:20 +1100 (EST), Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au> said:
: >
: > > Agreed, this is required the support the bug.
: >
: > Not everyone agrees that this is a bug.
: >
: > I would, however, be willing to stipulate that it is worth limiting
: > the number of option combinations a third-party vendor would need to
: > support.
: 
: Anymore than 1 per release is too much test load for an officially
: supported product.  We're only going to further deter companies from
: providing binary only drivers if they aren't going to work with most
: kernels.  Furthermore, we're likely to crash if the driver is not
: compatible with the kernel.

Agreed.  It was only with great reluctance that I enabled it.  This
will at least give us experience before pulling the trigger on a full
blown kernel module build system re-write.

Warner