From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 6 2:32:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E61037B417 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with ESMTP id fA6AWQx20096; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:32:27 -0800 Received: from gabrielle.spryteling.org (cs310-8.spmodem.washington.edu [140.142.168.111]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with ESMTP id fA6AWPq15349; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:32:25 -0800 Received: (from darxpryte@localhost) by gabrielle.spryteling.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA6AWN346314; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:32:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from darxpryte) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:32:23 -0800 From: Kristopher Zentner To: Kal Torak Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ICQ and NAT again.. :( Message-ID: <20011106023223.A46003@u.washington.edu> References: <20011103023357.A1564@Deadcell.ANT> <5.1.0.14.0.20011102210953.00ae4528@rfnj.org> <20011104040845.A696@Deadcell.ANT> <3BE4D3E2.6070608@quake.com.au> <20011104161019.B1611@Deadcell.ANT> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011104161019.B1611@Deadcell.ANT>; from ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net on Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 04:10:19PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While this solution may not allow file transfers, it will simplify things a bit. I don't believe anyone has brought up the possiblity of using jabber. There are clients for Windows and *nix (I use the Gnome based Gabber). I started using it when i found out that Licq (and other clones) recently have a lot of trouble sending messages through server to Win ICQ users. Jabber uses TCP and XML only so as long as you're using a stateful firewall or NAT in this case, which NAT should be, UDP packets don't even enter the equation and it still works fine. It works by sending messages to a jabber server which then translates the message to the appropriate protocol (such as ICQ, MSN, Yahoo or AIM) and sends it on its way. Be sure to check out: http://www.jabbercentral.org (lots of useful info, a FAQ, etc) Also, don't miss jabberview in the lower right hand corner to find a server. I've found that theoretic.com works well. Regards, -Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message