From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Thu Dec 10 05:12:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7029F9D6063 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 05:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E6741FED for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 05:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id tBA56HtL037148 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 9 Dec 2015 21:06:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id tBA56G77037144; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 21:06:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03144; Sun, 6 Dec 15 21:01:43 PST Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 21:01:41 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: florian.ermisch@alumni.tu-berlin.de Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ICH5 ATA DMA timeouts Message-Id: <566512b5.ASszkBTCI4fJWdPy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <5663a618.157GXarwIXDEyml8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <5664A6DF.80205@multiplay.co.uk> <845EDBE2-8111-4BFC-9EBE-ABDBE7A0FC53@alumni.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <845EDBE2-8111-4BFC-9EBE-ABDBE7A0FC53@alumni.tu-berlin.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 05:12:59 -0000 Interesting. The ICH5 is part of the processor chipset, and it could be "anywhere" on the system board, so finding/identifying it (so as to point a fan at it, or figure out a way to add a heatsink) may be less than straightforward -- but it's worth keeping in mind as something to look into if problems arise. Any idea where one finds cheap (but reliable) PCI SATA cards these days? It would have to be PCI -- this box does not have PCI-E slots. Florian Ermisch wrote: > I had some onboard (S)ATA controllers becoming unreliable in the > past. Two of them due to chipsets overheating under load which > were fixable with additional cooling. In the third one we just > added a cheap SATA card and spread the redundant disks between > onboard and add-on controller to make a temporary failure a minor > issue. > > Regards, Florian > > Am 6. Dezember 2015 22:21:35 MEZ, schrieb Steven Hartland : > > Check cables and devices are in good condition. These things are > > usually a connectivity issue or device failing > > > > On 06/12/2015 03:06, Perry Hutchison wrote: > > > Does anyone know the condition of the ICH5 ATA support in FreeBSD > > > 10? > > > > > > In preparing to repurpose an elderly Dell Dimension 4600 from > > > Windows to FreeBSD, and needing to decide what to do about > > > drives, I found several mentions in the archives* of ICH5 ATA > > > DMA timeouts -- mostly affecting the SATA ports, but the > > > prevalence of SATA reports may just indicate which ports were > > > getting the most use: a couple of the reports involved the > > > PATA ports. > > > > > > While there have been commits to the ATA code since then, I didn't > > > find any definitive statement that the DMA timeouts had been fixed. > > > Did I miss something, or would I be better off using a separate SATA > > > or PATA PCI card instead of the ICH5's built-in ports?