From owner-freebsd-arch Tue Nov 14 10: 9: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46C037B4C5; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp245.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.245]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAEI8xB92906; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:08:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <11485.974210886@critter> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:09:29 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: RE: RANDOMDEV inspired realitycheck regarding i386/i486... Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 14-Nov-00 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > If no /entropy is found it takes a full minute to do the randomdev > seeding during boot on a P5/133. > > Has anybody run a 486 or 386 under current recently ? > > Have we defacto discontinued them from current ? > > I can see the advantage for the SMPng people in dropping the 386/486 > and I'm approaching the level where I would be willing to say: "Sorry, > stick with 4.x for i386/i486". Actually, the only pessimisms for SMPng are on the 386. The 486 has the 'cmpxchg' instruction that makes SMPng go. :) > What is the consensus ? What is the current processor of choice for embedded stuff? Is x86 even a good architecture for embedded work? That is the only place that I would see the 386 still being alive... -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message