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Date:      Wed, 27 Dec 2017 16:15:08 -0800
From:      Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>
To:        FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Of LSOF
Message-ID:  <F486A56D-9A33-403C-889A-B1941BCE441D@mail.sermon-archive.info>
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> On 27 December 2017, at 16:05, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org> wrote:
> > On 27 December 2017, at 13:26, Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> =
wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Dec 2017, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> >
> >> [...] Putting header files into the port is a non-starter as they =
MUST match the kernel on which lsof is built. I added lsof to =
PORTS_MODULES so it is rebuilt with any new kernel on my stable system =
and on one release system so I can use that package to install elsewhere =
rather then use the repo package.
> >
> > Good point; thanks.  "lsof" is a superb tool, BTW...
> >
> >> Now that 10.3 is EOL I would expect that the package built for =
10-STABLE would be built on 10.4-RELEASE, but I don't know for sure. It =
should be and the next quarterly should be 10.4 based, too.
> >
> > OK.
> >
> > The history is that I used to build from ports because the then-boss =
did, and I didn't even know about pre-built packages.  Then, one day, =
Ruby needed to be rebuilt, which promptly blew away /tmp i.e. swap...  =
I'm a big fan of TMPFS; I had it on the old BSDi box (where it was =
"mfs"), and even my old CP/M box (where it was "M:").
>=20
> Why not add losf to the base?  Its a useful tool like ping, traceroute =
etc.
>=20
> While I can't say the exact reason, though I'd guess that it might be =
a licensing issue, though the license is very similar to a BSD license. =
Another possible issue is that lsof is frequently updated and that would =
mean that the version in FreeBSD base would get fairly old before EOL.
>=20
> fstat(1) does much of what lsof does. =20
>=20

I can't speak to the licensing issue as I have never looked into that.  =
However, the frequently updated issue doesn't seem to be an issue for =
openssl.  The base version is sometimes old, and the port versions are =
newer.  At least lsof would be a working version for those who only use =
packages.  If you need the newer features, then you would need to =
install the port.





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