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Date:      Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:53:51 -0700
From:      "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, William Grzybowski <william88@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: msk dev problem with acpi 
Message-ID:  <20070824215351.D089E4506A@ptavv.es.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:41:38 EDT." <200708241241.39187.jhb@freebsd.org> 

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> From: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:41:38 -0400
> Sender: owner-freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org
> 
> On Thursday 23 August 2007 07:39:40 pm Nate Lawson wrote:
> 
> > So the question is what to do in the first case -- it seems easiest that
> > if a bridge has no resources, just pass everything up to the parent.  Is
> > that what you're recommending, John?
> 
> Well, sorta.  The bridge needs to allocate resources and then hand them down 
> to its children, but while this simple case is doable, the harder case is 
> when you have multiple devices and no bridge resources, or you have bridge 
> resources that aren't enough for all the devices you have, etc.  Really 
> fixing this requires that we do an early pass assigning resources to busses 
> before any "leaf" drivers probe (but after all the bridges have probed), but 
> for that we really need the multi-pass new-bus stuff.

Sorry for a slight hijack of the thread, but I am wondering if this is
the reason that USB disks get attached to a UHCI interface if they are
already connected before umass and usb are loaded into the kernel as UHCI
is always loaded first, ohci second and ehci is last.

I suspect that this has happened to others without them ever realizing
it. They may have been annoyed by the slow devices just blamed hardware
and "crappy USBs".
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