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Date:      Tue, 05 Aug 1997 23:21:35 -0400
From:      "Bernard J. Courtney, IS Mgr. Internet Creations By The Hand" <bc@bythehand.net>
To:        Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
Cc:        Sean Eric Fagan <sef@Kithrup.COM>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: uunet vs. internet 
Message-ID:  <3.0.2.32.19970805232135.006b75c0@bythehand.net>
In-Reply-To: <199708060038.RAA02887@rah.star-gate.com>
References:  <Your message of "Tue, 05 Aug 1997 15:50:55 PDT."             <199708052250.PAA22871@kithrup.com>

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I would have to agree, I would support UUNET in any action that they take.
they are only responding to Internet Users's complaints.  It seems that at
least one of the backbone providers has seen the light, AGIS has no hope!!

					Bernard Courtney
					bc@bythehand.net
At 05:38 PM 8/5/97 -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote:
>
>As one that is sitting here totally defenseless against the mindless
>e-mail spams , all I have to say go for it!!
>
>Yes , I have anti-spam filters and I think they are just not enough :(
>
>	Cheers,
>	Amancio
>
>From The Desk Of Sean Eric Fagan :
>> In article
<199708052014.NAA01887.kithrup.freebsd.chat@rah.star-gate.com> you
> write:
>> >Apparently, a group of sysads are cancelling all uunets postings 8)
>> >Rumor has it that Uunet will strike back by using legal action.
>> 
>> And yours truly has been quoted in the local paper.  And will probably be
>> quoted in at least another.  (Spent the first hour this morning dealing
with
>> reporter questions via email.)
>> 
>> This is not a "group of sysads" -- rather, this is a group of the spam
>> cancellers.  You know, the ones who actually try to make usenet still
>> readable?  (The ones who stopped for nine days a few weeks ago and watched
>> as usenet became >50% spam in most newsgroups?)
>> 
>> In this case, a UDP (Usenet Death Penalty) was issued for uunet dial-up
>> originated postings.  THis is basicly just alterdial.uu.net.
>> 
>> A statistic:  last thursaday (July 31), for the first time, one site
>> measured more than one million usenet articles passing through it in a
>> single day.
>> 
>> Of those one million, approx. 40% were spam, 40% were spam cancels, and 20%
>> were legit. traffic.
>> 
>> Of the 400,000 spam articles, approx. 250,000 came from an alterdial.uu.net
>> account.
>> 
>> People have been complaining to uunet about this for several months.  uunet
>> claims it can do nothing.  So, the UDP went into play, Friday at 5PM PDT.
>> 
>> The press coverage has, so far, been favourable.  Except for one very
>> badly-slanted article in the San Jose Mercury News, I'm sad to say.
>> 
>> UUNET can try legal action; it will be amusing, since most of the people
>> actually doing the cancels are not in the US -- and one of them works for
>> the gov't of Korea, with official sanction.
>> 
>> UUNET has claimed that they decided yesterday to implment some
technology to
>> help deal with the deluge of spam coming from them.  So the UDP may be
>> called off as early as this evening.  We'll see.
>> 
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