From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 13 15:11:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C5C16A413 for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 15:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF36C43D46 for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 15:11:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id e30so777126pya for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 08:11:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LGsoziMjThMI59JcZAxP4x4WQUc2gFgTd0/MZKZxpHG6lNZzwjBW13ayrh0P3Cl16Uc1Wz+3TtqKV+3LSU/kVra1ukcxvMHxBJDSulvliwG2ncI7h51XGYQR0TdqvhKBdlmxZdAaXlcUWMO6z4OACpwJAKRlId+K1WYEZPMUYvc= Received: by 10.35.60.15 with SMTP id n15mr1026557pyk; Sat, 13 May 2006 08:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.13.3 with HTTP; Sat, 13 May 2006 08:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 11:11:21 -0400 From: "David Stanford" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: reflex@rotten.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:11:23 -0000 On 5/13/06, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of David Stanford > >Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:32 AM > >To: reflex@rotten.com > >Cc: questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo > > > > > >Why, oh why, would you post this? > > > >So help me to understand...The FreeBSD Project takes great effort in > >not only producing a truly _great_ operating system, trademarked as > >being fast, robust, stable and secure, provides it to the world for > >_free_, but also takes on the additional chore of attempting to > >promote its growth in the corporate market by introducing a new > >logo...and then some, all for the community. And your repayment is to > >aid in these, now, endless rants of verbal bashing of the Project's > >logo, which had an obvious goal of gaining wider popularity among > >busnesses for the purposes of making it bigger and better for, yes, > >_you_ and every other one of its users. > > Your missing something - "they" didn't ask all us users if we wanted > a new logo or not. I wasn't aware they had to (?). >Maybe I'm going out on a limb > >here, and maybe I'm solo dangling out there on it, but I feel a need > >to say something in defense. They spent > > they wasted IYOO > much valued donation money for > >the logo and in legal fees, I'm sure, to obtain it, so I would assume > >(and hope) it's here to stay. > > Unlikely. Most corporate logos change every 10-20 years or so. Some > also have a raft of logos. For example Chrysler used to use the > medallion for it's logo. Then they switched to the pentagram. Now > they are back to the medallion and it's been redone. AT&T has also > changed logos, they used to use the bell then the Death Star, now > they are using a modifed Death Star. Fads and fashions > in logos come and go. The current FreBSD sex toy logo is very > much a current fashion, as abstract logos like that are all the > rage now. But it's just going to get dated all the faster for that. You have entirely too much time on your hands. But my statement meant that = I hoped the Project isn't swayed out of using the logo because of childish posts such as these. >Furthermore, by continuing to post > >threads like this you (and others) are hardly contributing to the > >Project (or this list) and, in fact, are doing the exact opposite - > >you are attempting to destroy the new logo's image by imaturely > >calling it a "sex toy" and in turn are slowly taking away from those > >precious dollars put into aquiring it. > > Why throw more good money after bad? Not sure I know what this means. However, I would love to hear how this, among your *many* other posts, has contributed to this list. >Maybe it's not the greatest > >logo, but, regardless, the logo doesn't affect the code. Try to keep > >that in mind. FreeBSD is a gift. And anyone who doesn't see that > >should take another look at Microsoft's pricing options for a simple > >Home edition of XP (now $99, five years after its initial release). > >Please do the community a favor: Just say thanks and move along. > > > > The community doesen't want the new logo and the majority of the > community > prefers Beastie over the sex-toy. You speak for the community? >**Of course, this was not aimed at the general community, but more > >specifically at the folks wasting everyone's inbox space the past few > >days with this nonsense.** > > > > like yourself? Agreed, and this will be my last post on the subject - though, I'm sure it won't be yours... Ted > > -David