From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 15 19:15:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D147B730; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7C71569; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:15:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=PW5KkOyi2N+7koGLNuH5QW2TYwO584XWNobLzFE45Rc= c=1 sm=1 a=QrugwKR0C_UA:10 a=wAGQQ9Az6v0A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=ICAaq7hcmGcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=IbtKDeXwb2+SRU442/pi3A==:17 a=BWvPGDcYAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=MyE6jBz-AAAA:8 a=1CH5QDEJChWIyTtZLrIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=V7tsTZBp22UA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=aLekXsIfG0IA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO spqr.komquats.com) ([96.50.7.119]) by idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 15 Apr 2013 13:16:19 -0600 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy8 [10.2.2.6]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC5E80; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r3FJFnM1002686; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:15:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Message-Id: <201304151915.r3FJFnM1002686@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.5 From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.komquats.com/ To: Scott Long Subject: Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer In-Reply-To: Message from Scott Long of "Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:54:12 -0600." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:15:49 -0700 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:37:15 +0000 Cc: Warren Block , "current@freebsd.org" , darrenr@freebsd.org, Chris Rees , Rui Paulo , "net@freebsd.org" , "Sam Fourman Jr." , "cpet@sdf.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cy Schubert List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:15:53 -0000 It was pointed out to me that Darren Reed has changed licenses from his I= P=20 Filter license that's been in IPF since 2005 or so, when he joined Sun, t= o=20 GPLv2 (probably when Darren left when Oracle took over Sun). Given that I= PF=20 already lives in src/contrib and src/sys/contrib due to the 2005 license = change, would that be a problem? If it's OK then I'll maintain it in src.= =20 If not then a port is in order. Having said that, a port would be messy a= s=20 IPF's own install scripts update src/sys/netinet, among other locations. --=20 Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org In message , Scott Long= =20 writes: > The desire to remove it stems from the inability to give it adequate en= gineer > ing=20 > service as the network stack evolves. Simply taking it out of a kernel= confi > g file > doesn't address that problem at all. If it's going to stay in FreeBSD = at all > , it > needs to be maintained. This could be set about a fair amount of stuff= in Fr > eeBSD, > but IPFilter stands out since there's a high rate of needed change happ= ening=20 > in > the network stack, and it shouldn't be left to rot nor to be a stumblin= g bloc > k for > those changes. >=20 > Scott >=20 > On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:49 PM, =22Sam Fourman Jr.=22 wrote: >=20 > > Thank you to those that have expressed interest in maintaining IP Fil= ter.. > >=20 > > My thoughts are, could we consider putting a option in the kernel con= fig, > > and leaving it off by default for GENERIC? > > I think this is a acceptable compromise, considering some people wish= for > > it to be removed. > >=20 > > Sam Fourman Jr. > >=20 > >=20 > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Cy Schubert wrot > e: > >=20 > >> In message <18DF99B0-6E66-4906-A233-7778451B8A92=40felyko.com>, Rui = Paulo > >> writes: > >>> 2013/04/15 9:55=E3=80=81Cy Schubert = =E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1=E3=83=83=E3=82=BB=E3=83=BC=E3=82=B8: > >>>=20 > >>>> I've been planning on taking on IP Filter for quite some time. > >>>> Unfortunately I've left my src commit bit lapse (my ports commit b= it is > >>>> alive and well though) thus I'm looking for a mentor. In addition = I'm > >>>> working on an ACER WMI/ACPI kld. One mentor would be preferred but= two > >>>> would be fine too. > >>>=20 > >>> What are your plans regarding ipfilter? I remain unconvinced that i= t > >> should b > >>> e in the base system. Perhaps you can work on it as a port? > >>=20 > >> The initial plan was to import IP Filter 5.1.2 into HEAD. darrenr=40= hadn't > >> done much with IPF while employed with Sun. Since then there has bee= n some > >> development that is long overdue for HEAD. > >>=20 > >> I'm not sure if I'd MFC it into 9 or not. > >>=20 > >> I did consider a port but given it would has to touch bits and piece= s of > >> the source tree (/usr/src), a port would be messy and the decision w= as mad > e > >> to work on importing it into base. > >>=20 > >>>=20 > >>> Why do you want to work on something that people have been trying t= o > >> remove s > >>> ince 2005? > >>=20 > >> I and others have been using it in FreeBSD for over decade. For the = longes > t > >> of time we'd use a common set of rules across a FreeBSD and Solaris = farm > >> (using ipfmeta, makefiles, rsync, rdist, and a local CVS repo). > >> Interoperability with other systems which use IP Filter is a plus. I= f > >> there's a maintainer, it only makes FreeBSD richer. Losing IP Filter= would > >> be a loss. > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> -- > >> Cheers, > >> Cy Schubert > >> FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-current=40freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to =22freebsd-current-unsubscribe=40fr= eebsd.org=22 > >>=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > >=20 > > Sam Fourman Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-net=40freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to =22freebsd-net-unsubscribe=40freebsd= .org=22 >=20 >=20