From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 8 15:09:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9283E16A4D0 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:09:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com (smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3852B43D5C for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:09:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.240.189 with login) by smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2004 15:09:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E2C61E4; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:09:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 77870-03; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:09:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from www.noacks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F50C61B2; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:09:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 69.53.57.66 (SquirrelMail authenticated user noackjr); by www.noacks.org with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:09:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <24639.69.53.57.66.1097248169.squirrel@69.53.57.66> In-Reply-To: <200410081235.i98CZjRf026337@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> References: <20041008142844.D76783@pcle2.cc.univie.ac.at> <200410081235.i98CZjRf026337@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:09:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jon Noack" To: "Patrick M. Hausen" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum problems in 5.3-BETA7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:09:32 -0000 Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > Hi, Lukas! > >>> Where do I go from here? Is this expected behaviour due to the ongoing >>> GEOM changes or should I go read Greg's "how to debug vinum problems" >>> document? I will do that, no problem. Just want to know if it makes >>> sense at all, because now everyone might tell me "vinum is known >>> broken in 5.3" or similar. >> >> Please switch to geom_vinum. Put 'geom_vinum_load="YES"' in your >> loader.conf and change your fstab to /dev/gvinum. > > Since geom_vinum wasn't in the earlier betas I expected it was > scheduled for after 5.3-RELEASE. I'm puzzled by the amount of > feature changes during the current beta process. Bind 9 is > another example. Shouldn't there be a feature freeze at the > first beta and only bug fixing until release? geom_vinum was added way back in June (http://www.xl0.org/FreeBSD/14-06-04.html#geom-supporting-vinum-added). Recently, it was reworked to fix some corruption issues and improve performance (http://www.xl0.org/FreeBSD/20-09-04.html#rework-of-geom-vinum-code). Regardless, it's certainly been available in earlier betas and this is not a good example of a feature change during beta. Such changes have been made, but all have been to satisfy the release requirements and desires laid out on the TODO page (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/todo.html). Bind 9 has been in used from ports for a long time now and as such is a very low risk change. The move to the rc (release candidate) stage should bring with it a feature freeze as you expect. Jon