From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 11:50:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD68106566B; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1FB8FC0C; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oBNBnxTR019762; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 12:50:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id oBNBnxmI019761; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 12:49:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 12:49:59 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <201012231149.oBNBnxmI019761@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG, kevlo@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-x11 User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.5 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 23 Dec 2010 12:50:14 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Add a dependency on xclock X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG, kevlo@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:50:16 -0000 Kevin Lo wrote: > Sometimes I only installed the xorg metaport x11/xorg on my FreeBSD. > When I quit the X window, there's a message on the console: > > /usr/local/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc: xclock: not found > > I think it makes sense to add dependency on xclock, what do you think? There are dozens of different clocks in ports/x11-clocks. I don't think it makes sense to install one of them by default just because it's mentioned as an example in the xinitrc template. If someone really wants the "classic" xclock (I'm trying to avoid the word "ancient"), he can install it himself. This should be a conscious decision, not an automatism. In my opinion, the xorg meta port already installs many things that most people never need. Personally, I have stopped using the meta port and install only the parts that I need. This is a little more work in the beginning, but it saves time in the long run when keeping things up to date. On my workstation, it cut down the number of packages by about 200 (from 700 down to 500). Best regards Oliver PS: In fact I _did_ install the ancient xclock on purpose, because it's leight-weight and it's a very good fit with my window manager (olvwm). But I'm probably an exception (proof for that is the fact that nobody cared to make xview and olvwm 64bit-clean for amd64, so I still have to run i386 on my workstation). Sorry, I digress ... -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "And believe me, as a C++ programmer, I don't hesitate to question the decisions of language designers. After a decent amount of C++ exposure, Python's flaws seem ridiculously small." -- Ville Vainio