From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 20:45:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C369DB9F005 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17AA18C9; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: UTF-8 by default? To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20160720140741.yi7vfgmmqtg6eprx@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <86vb00jbcy.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: Jung-uk Kim Message-ID: <643c9839-d5e4-22a8-bd81-8039a4e101fe@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:45:13 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86vb00jbcy.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5F72ctI46DfAa6U5qni7frR7mGLKQFOtj" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:45:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --5F72ctI46DfAa6U5qni7frR7mGLKQFOtj Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="HKGgbnfnW7hmBiNJOo3oAeb0wwEO5MnpB" From: Jung-uk Kim To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <643c9839-d5e4-22a8-bd81-8039a4e101fe@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: UTF-8 by default? References: <20160720140741.yi7vfgmmqtg6eprx@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <86vb00jbcy.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> In-Reply-To: <86vb00jbcy.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> --HKGgbnfnW7hmBiNJOo3oAeb0wwEO5MnpB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/20/16 04:36 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > Baptiste Daroussin skrev: >> >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:47:45AM -0230, Jonathan Anderson wrote: >>> On 20 Jul 2016, at 9:13, Tim =C8as wrote: >>> >>>> So, without further ado: >>>> 1) What are the reasons that UTF-8 isn't the default yet? >>>> 2) Would it be possible to make this the default in 11.0? What about= >>>> 12.0? >>>> 3) Assuming an effort is started towards making UTF-8 the default, >>>> what changes would be required? >>> >>> At least according to one of my students (who makes more extensive us= e of >>> i18n than I do), enabling UTF-8 by default is pretty straightforward:= >>> >>> https://github.com/musec/freebsd/wiki/Common-setup#utf-8-support >> >> the LC_COLLATE=3DC is not needed anymore with freebsd 11+ >=20 > Weird, when I set LC_ALL or LC_COLLATE to nb_NO.UTF-8 I can no longer > run ls in $HOME. It hangs until I kill it. Same happens with > da_DK.UTF-8; no problem with sv_SE.UTF-8 or en_GB.UTF-8. >=20 > I am running FreeBSD 11.0-BETA1 i386 (r302984) and I think someone > else reported a similiar issue earlier. FYI, this bug was introduced in r302324, which is between ALPHA6 and BETA1. It should be fixed in r302916 (head) and r303112 (stable/11). Jung-uk Kim --HKGgbnfnW7hmBiNJOo3oAeb0wwEO5MnpB-- --5F72ctI46DfAa6U5qni7frR7mGLKQFOtj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXj+LeAAoJEHyflib82/FG2WUIAIe1Xe5YPbNVIhOANBao9ZKd y150HkpOYdOuNXVw8duZW1RDjcvyIh4085QSobpO9YLAuAO1NGv49IgjDRsEmk4k 6H7yMq5PPTXNTK+2a6AJ6mV0U2qSt4YEAXJXgO62UUCGwvhnFinznO/J9V9CPWsW dL7S5cEwzmENgfjIPM5wWShjObg+z6JiJnvFMTsCOp8tpCXKTOMItE2cXzb0ui2c zCxsg2fYCbc1muPmceBtqygZ/AJvHJ9ektEjm7ogqc1d+e+vhVKgSzy5On9Hy5ri 5E4tdCmVj6/Bm48ZmJ8j3YDtwUhuItPwdVmL2qc2VVBVjgu5w79eeGz3shIogso= =pYsU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5F72ctI46DfAa6U5qni7frR7mGLKQFOtj--