From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 00:09:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14D910B1DBE for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 00:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2f.google.com (mail-io1-xd2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5071B75FD6 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 00:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2f.google.com with SMTP id e12-v6so6500065iok.12 for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2018 17:09:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=aLxHzO6z5WzoMhyPY1tXkOm/67uChyPIl7YmS4vch9Y=; b=t4jSjp/+r1dtyLbIVnVg1BbepVPBscerElt+JenaZkpfmB6dv38yXI0EhNCwCzxXoY fqbXmR9C7Ri+0P6rWf5PL/P27pAHaY8SrljRXDm5t+Tc9fGem2OIsjPNfIXyybUBibsZ nrp+fHdbLi8hivYEHhRyF14ZT5E7c4Q/H8XuILq9/fwnsRN+kPMtGMEz3+PonctteqBm ANVR2m4ZSsqtS0sKiBm9FbfbT8ZVusO1p1Ax63oHApPhs6XDtMXPT8A07myzCzXjwZ4g Iz9I88J+ccpinhREcPgOjQXz2DxOd3k0vi2RXEYMg0qU5fN2HUB6x0QzfJ3E4SiYnkWI dahg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=aLxHzO6z5WzoMhyPY1tXkOm/67uChyPIl7YmS4vch9Y=; b=VKswK+qYueuy//iH+7oRF4TWUJcyUTrk7XXBvcfuBUaBkI2R8bOdHuJj4el8ZO2UC3 LB0VeeawCvDYQaSZqJuQ+l4kEErORpj+oex6ZzLHn/KiB0Tysxu83QNyWLDKpECse6yN yWs0UUk6e2V/p9dLi6vxa5ndQbvbSYp4/NbDm2WFqyh6X/o+jRLXSasxzYbOcEgxRvZd HNt85QMwa6OzfwzGf1xtRDxkwtPZ/dRxxtWDydbYqrfm/WCXXjjNSzCmpHGfMQsMtpk7 jAc3lG+xtemZ9hGY+s1lUoEXlDrZzgxHokeH2e2kPsDP59SqBfEuuMR5T+1YQACA2xhy Zm2w== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogHXj6/1ySXjLmiYQ7ITvgGjyzYXS8wTfouJd7fAqymm9ZSCaTL iihSs3xzMkMyHOskVbhsP4G5gEH2Z2TjKEPFyU3PdRVD X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62tSBQniWp1oQfrpAz0R+jcifkih9Cx1sKBNDkLV1JnFVBVRf/1P23cJ1JrLn0sfe/33X8JjlT+l/3b0GN/SEk= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:d004:: with SMTP id x4-v6mr2715153ioa.299.1538611761473; Wed, 03 Oct 2018 17:09:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181004000338.064BC523@spqr.komquats.com> In-Reply-To: <20181004000338.064BC523@spqr.komquats.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 18:09:10 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers To: Cy Schubert Cc: Jakub Lach , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 00:09:23 -0000 Well, we're at 1 maybe 2 now. Only 3 more to go for a reprieve. :) You're running FreeBSD-current on that i386 laptop, right? Warner On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 6:01 PM Cy Schubert wrote: > I have a laptop (used for i386 testing) with that NIC. The plan is to move > rl(4) to ports until I no longer need to test i386 on real hardware. > > Will this help? > > --- > Sent using a tiny phone keyboard. > Apologies for any typos and autocorrect. > Also, this old phone only supports top post. Apologies. > > Cy Schubert > or > The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. > --- > ------------------------------ > From: Warner Losh > Sent: 03/10/2018 16:45 > To: Jakub Lach > Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers > > Do you have any machines running FreeBSD 12.0 with this interface? The > requirement is that we have at least 5 real users of the interface on > FreeBSD 12. > > Many of the P III era PCs aren't beefy enough to run FreeBSD very well > (specifically, they typically lack adequate memory). > > QEMU also emulates newer NICs, so you wouldn't be left w/o a solution. The > NE-2000 is still supported, as well E1000 (em/igb) interfaces. > > Warner > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 5:36 PM Jakub Lach wrote: > > > I request to keep rl(4) as it's the standard ethernet card in PIII era > PCs. > > Moreover, it's emulated by QEMU too. > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: > http://freebsd.1045724.x6.nabble.com/freebsd-arch-f4152488.html > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >