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Date:      Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:41:33 -0500
From:      Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com>
To:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Adaptec AAC raid support
Message-ID:  <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNMENCFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
References:  <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNMENCFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>

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On Mar 20, 2005, at 2:24 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
[ ... ]
> In that case Dell is a customer of Adaptec, not the other way around,
> so any NDA that Dell might require for Adaptec to sign would not
> have restricted Adaptec's use of it's own programming documentation.

And you know this, because...?

You've read that NDA and you know just what it says and what it covers? 
  Prove it!

>> You've failed to address the point.  Do you claim that Adaptec is in a
>> position to ignore an NDA they have with a company like Intel or Dell?
>
> The point is they obviously don't have an NDA with Intel since the
> programming docs for the i860 are open already.  (at least the don't
> have an NDA that covers this aspect of their relationship, which is all
> we care about)

Have you read the NDA between Adaptec and Intel?
If not, how do you know just what it does or does not cover?

Once again, you're making claims of fact about a document that you've 
probably never seen.
I think you are making wild assertions and have not even a shred of 
evidence to justify them.

As for your comments about my ethics, we can resume that discussion 
after you provide some evidence to show that your words are based in 
fact rather than empty claims made up on the spot to suit your 
argument.  If you cannot or will not provide proof, Ted, attacking the 
credibility of others is rank hypocrisy.

-- 
-Chuck

PS:  While I haven't seen Adaptec's NDA agreements, I'd bet a stack of 
nickels they exist and limit the information Adaptec is able to make 
public.  You and others have asked why Adaptec isn't free to give you 
all of their internal documentation, and you've gotten an answer.  If 
you don't like it or if you refuse to understand the circumstances, 
that's your problem, not mine.



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