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Date:      Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:29:23 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        Randell Jesup <rjesup@wgate.com>
Cc:        Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>, Kenneth W Cochran <kwc@world.std.com>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Removal of Disklabel 
Message-ID:  <200011290330.eAT3U6P17746@cwsys.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "28 Nov 2000 20:06:02 EST." <ybu7l5n1tad.fsf@jesup.eng.tvol.net.jesup.eng.tvol.net> 

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In message <ybu7l5n1tad.fsf@jesup.eng.tvol.net.jesup.eng.tvol.net>, 
Randell Jes
up writes:
> Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca> writes:
> >>         Before you start, you should look at the updates to disklabel I've
> >> submitted to Warner Losh for checkin.  While they don't change the evil
> >> UI, they do greatly expand the flexibility of how to specify partition
> >> sizes and positions, and also considerably increase error checking
> >> (including for minor things like overlapping partitions).
> >
> >Overlapping partitions are perfectly legal.  Of course you cannot 
> >simultaneously use overlapping partitions, but you can set up a disktab 
> >entry to create overlapping partitions and alternatively initialise the 
> >partitions you wish to use, e.g you can define overlapping partitions 
> >in the label, yet only use combinations of partitions that you require 
> >at the the time.  Evi Nemeth explains the rational behind this in her 
> >system administration books.
> 
>         Mayhaps they're legal - but I think they're also evil and very
> dangerous, not to mention confusing.  In any case, the updates to disklabel
> don't disallow them, but they do warn you that the partitions overlap.

I have no problem with that.

> 
> >If you want to look at UI's, Compaq Tru64-UNIX has an excellent disk 
> >partitioning UI, with slider bars and warnings about overlapping 
> >partitions -- a very polished application.  The problem is that it 
> >requires X.  An X based install might be nice, however I think it's 
> >hardly worth the effort.  IMO this would be a value add for commercial 
> >product, e.g. BSDi.
> 
>         Personally I'd LOVE more polish in sysinstall/etc.  They're a
> bloody pain in the arse to use, and quite non-intuitive, even for someone
> who's been usign Unix for 16 years.

Digital's diskconfig is probably what you want.  If you need to see an 
example, I could try to get an xwd dump of a diskconfig window.  It's 
pretty slick though I still prefer to use disklabel for various reasons.


Regards,                       Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert                      Fax:  (250)387-5766
Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team   Internet:  Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca
Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA
Province of BC





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