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Date:      Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:01:17 -0500
From:      Jonathan Lemon <jlemon@flugsvamp.com>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Cc:        Dan Kegel <dank@alumni.caltech.edu>, Jonathan Lemon <jlemon@flugsvamp.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: kqueue microbenchmark results
Message-ID:  <20001025170117.C87091@prism.flugsvamp.com>
In-Reply-To: <20001025115457.X28123@fw.wintelcom.net>
References:  <20001024225637.A54554@prism.flugsvamp.com> <39F6655A.353FD236@alumni.caltech.edu> <20001025115457.X28123@fw.wintelcom.net>

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On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 11:54:57AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> moved to hackers, dropped linux-kernel and -chat.
> 
> * Dan Kegel <dank@alumni.caltech.edu> [001024 21:38] wrote:
> > Johnathan,
> > Thanks for running that test for me!  I've added your results
> > (plus a cautionary note about microbenchmarks and a link to
> > your site) to http://www.kegel.com/dkftpbench/Poller_bench.html
> > 
> > If you haven't already, you might peek at the discussion on
> > linux-kernel.  Linus seems to be on the verge of adding
> > something like kqueue() to Linux, but appears opposed to
> > supporting level-triggering; he likes the simplicity of
> > edge triggering (from the kernel's point of view!).  See
> > http://boudicca.tux.org/hypermail/linux-kernel/2000week44/index.html#9
> 
> Jonathan, wouldn't this be a good time to try to push our interface
> on Linux?  After all, we have several instances of it working and
> having the Open Source community force a new design feature into
> mainstream UNIX to address scalability would be very cool.

I'd love to do that, but am not quite sure how I'd go about it.
If you read the l-k mailing list, you'll see Linus calling kqueue
"overengineered", and what he is proposing is something that is
definitely not well thought out.

Other than whacking him on the head with a stick, any ideas on 
how to get him to turn away from the "NIH" syndrome?
--
Jonathan


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