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Date:      Fri,  6 Aug 1999 06:21:17 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Anthony Kimball <alk@pobox.com>
To:        brian@FreeBSD.org.uk
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: group bits 
Message-ID:  <14250.50016.61650.779505@avalon.east>
References:  <14249.52685.50332.808817@avalon.east> <199908060803.JAA00845@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org>

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Quoth Brian Somers on Fri, 6 August:
: If you want to allow users to modify their own ppp configuration, you 
: should do this by including the line
: 
:   !include ~/.ppp.conf
: 
: in ppp.conf.  This means that users can modify their own profiles 
: without screwing around with other peoples.

That's a very nice functionality which I had completely overlooked.
Thank you for pointing it out.  But it does quite completely miss the
point of my interest, which is in the meaning of the group bits.

: ppp.conf should always be owned by root and mode 600, 400 or 0.

In what sense of "should"?  I want those persons responsible for
administering ppp to be able to do so, although they may not have root
access.  I can do this by saying !include /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.shared in
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf, and making /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.shared group writable
by group ppp, from your description.  I have to ask, therefore, what
purpose does it serve to require that ppp.conf should not be group
writable?  It seems to frustrate the purpose of that bit.



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