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Date:      Wed, 28 May 2008 00:40:23 +0200
From:      "Danny Pansters" <danny@ricin.com>
To:        freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best?
Message-ID:  <200805280040.24038.danny@ricin.com>
In-Reply-To: <200805280034.34063.danny@ricin.com>
References:  <142121.24995.qm@web63013.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <200805280034.34063.danny@ricin.com>

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On Wednesday 28 May 2008 00:34:33 Danny Pansters wrote:
> On Saturday 24 May 2008 01:53:07 Fritz Katz wrote:
> > My task is to put together a system that can ship
> > world-wide, be able to display any TV signal, and have
> > all the capabilites that FreeBSD can provide
> > (internet, graphics, games). Potential applications
> > are huge. For example, running JAVA the system could
> > be used to build a low-cost Cable (OCAP in the US or
> > DVB in Europe) or satellite (DirecTV, DISH, etc)
> > Set-top box.
>
> I don't think there are any "can" tuner solutions that do both
> pal/secam and ntsc, and for any digital TV you pretty much have
> to turn to silicon tuners I think. I also think that is where you
> can find solutions that can do both traditional pal/secam and ntsc
> and maybe also both dvb-* and *tsc.
>
> Video decoder-wise there are many solutions that can do all three
> standards.

Sorry bad editing: the next is about tuner chips, not the av decoding chips in 
the former sentence.

> Microtune and others make chips for several of these and QAM-geared
> and even for mechanical systems purposes (factory/lab/servo equipment)
> but no everything-in-one AFAIK. It's possible that everything-in-one just
> can't be done technically or economically, but the fact that they can be
> designed/manufactured almost equivalent and still have such a broad area of
> application clearly show their merit. Not to mention that they're already
> being used all over the place in, well, TVs for example. Other chipmakers
> are xceive, fujitsu, TI (they also make a prominent video decoder chip TVP
> for which there are extensive datasheets on the net), probably also
> philips/LG, ... [google]
>
> ( AFAIU it's a double (serial) PLL system so that the dividers/multipliers
> can effectively both be set rather than merely a few fixed combinations  --
> anybody more "skilled in the art" as the patent language goes, feel free to
> comment )
>
> I'm only relaying from my own research and I have no ties anywhere in this
> industry, but I think you're going to need to have a significant budget and
> talk to -- for example -- TI and fujitsu if you want some universal
> card/USB stick to be put together. You'd also need drivers :)
>
> Hauppauge's stuff (or elgato) might be already extensive enough for the
> multi support you want. But there too, you'd also need drivers :)
>
> HTH,
>
> Dan
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