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Date:      Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:56:43 +0400
From:      "Valery G. Utkin" <uvg@niiefa.spb.su>
To:        "Robert Blayzor" <rblayzor@inoc.net>
Cc:        <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: RE: Swap_pager error
Message-ID:  <001401c20d38$29364f70$6615a8c0@lks.sintez>
References:  <001701c20c2d$5a689460$080010ac@z0.inoc.net>

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I had the same problem after installation FreeBsd 4.5 without ipfw. After
removal from /etc/security lines which start  ipfw and ip6fw, all works
normally.
Valery G. Utkin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Blayzor" <rblayzor@inoc.net>
To: "'Matthew Dillon'" <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>;
<freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:07 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Swap_pager error


> I looked through all the periodic daily stuff.  It doesn't seem that any
> of the scripts will trash NFS mounted partitions, almost everything I
> saw would only look at UFS mounted partitions.
>
> One thing I did notice is the security check was quite brutal.  While
> any server should survive it I believe this is what is causing the
> system to crash.  The security check seems to run a find on the NFS
> servers local UFS mounts.  We have some very, very large volumes with
> hundreds of thousands of small files... (maildirs, boxes, webmail, web,
> etc).  On this box, it seemed that the security check would take almost
> 3-4 minutes to complete with that find, and it just totally saturates
> the box in activity when it runs.
>
> So, I think there may be a loading issue with all these files/inodes in
> relation to the find process... Perhaps the SCSI or driver stuff in
> FreeBSD.  If I can be of any help on this, I surely will led a hand.  I
> would like to see FreeBSD be able to survive this without a hitch.
>
> Perhaps a suggestion to change the priority of the "find" tasks in those
> scripts with nice or something.  I mean the box was really bogged down
> when we ran "periodic daily" by manually.
>
> As a work around, we moved periodic daily to run at 9:01am instead of
> 3:01am, and only on Monday - Friday.  We don't need any more weekend
> surprise pages and then call-ins.  :-)
>
> Since this box is an internal server only with no accounts on it, and it
> has no route to the outside + behind a firewall, we're going to go ahead
> and disable the security check all together.  I'm hoping that this will
> provide a work around for this "loading" issue.  If I can be any help to
> the core team to debug this problem, I'll do my best to do what I can.
>
> --
> Robert Blayzor, BOFH
> INOC, LLC
> rblayzor@inoc.net
>
> One picture is worth 128K words.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Dillon [mailto:dillon@apollo.backplane.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:49 PM
> > To: Robert Blayzor; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: RE: Swap_pager error
> >
> >
> >     I have one more idea... daily cron jobs tend to really
> > load down the
> >     system for a short period of time, especially the disks.
> > In your case
> >     the local daily cron is combinging with the daily cron
> > running on the
> >     NFS clients.  There could be a hardware problem with the
> > system that
> >     is most likely to show up under heavy loads.
> >
> >     It is also possible that this is revealing a driver bug somewhere.
> >     For example, the extreme disk load could be revealing a bug in the
> >     driver's tag handling or in the RAID card's tag handling.
> >  The lack
> >     of driver-based error messages is rather odd.  I don't
> > see how that
> >     can happen unless the RAID card itself is locking up.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> > ::
> > ::Both times the box has crashed crashed at ~3:02am.  I'm
> > thinking that
> > ::something in periodic daily is causing the crashes.
> > ::
> > ::Keep in mind, that this server serves several NFS clients
> > which mount
> > ::things such as FreeBSD ports and /usr/src.  Those are soft
> > linked to on
> >
>
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