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Date:      Fri, 28 May 1999 21:37:19 +1000
From:      Stephen McKay <syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au>
To:        mike@smith.net.au
Cc:        freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net, syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au
Subject:   Re: NCR SCSI Controller 
Message-ID:  <199905281137.VAA05201@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au>
In-Reply-To: <199905271815.LAA01152@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Thu, 27 May 1999 11:15:26 -0700"
References:  <199905271815.LAA01152@dingo.cdrom.com>

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On Thursday, 27th May 1999, Mike Smith wrote:

>Unrelated, but due to the same basic stuffup; bogus (nonstandard) 
>hardware design in both cases.
>
>The NCR card has the LED connected somewhere weird, and likewise your 
>onboard IDE controller has done something funny with its LED.
>
>You're both SOL, sorry.

Ignoring the IDE for the moment...  (Who knows with IDE anyway?!)

I don't think he is SOL.  My Diamond FirePort 40 has the same problem and
is cured by option SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT.  Stefan is just really, really
worried about the possibility of some hardware going spastic and blowing
up with this option on.

But, I've seen this same discussion 4 times now, and NEVER has anybody said
"My card's LED didn't work.  I set SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT.  It still doesn't
work."  It works for me.  It's worked for other people.  As far as I know,
it always works like this:

	1) install FreeBSD
	2) if LED works, stop here
	3) compile with option SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT

I'd like to know of any NCR based card or board where this doesn't work.
Hands up everybody who tried this and it failed!

If we can't find any failures, I'd like to add this information to the
hardware docs.

Stephen.


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