Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:23:43 +0000 From: Mark Blackman <mark@exonetric.com> To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, Mark Saad <nonesuch@longcount.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle Message-ID: <ECFE9ADA-9E54-44A6-ADCA-2511462EBB67@exonetric.com> In-Reply-To: <201201261322.29688.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <CADWvR2ioJo2oy=0FTRv-BiMHGG3KB1AERjuu0FOk_yCqsGzukg@mail.gmail.com> <201201260937.47448.jhb@freebsd.org> <6D5F6ECE-5966-4849-AFDC-7F385E2CE906@exonetric.com> <201201261322.29688.jhb@freebsd.org>
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On 26 Jan 2012, at 18:22, John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:49:22 am Mark Blackman wrote: >> a) who is "the project" in this case >> and >> b) what does it take for a release to be a release? >=20 > I'll answer the two together. The project is the entity that "owns" > freebsd.org and a release is not a release unless it is present on > ftp.freebsd.org and has a signed announcement e-mail with hashes, etc. > on the freebsd-announce@ mailing list. Without those things there is > no reason for a user to believe that a particular set of bits is a > legitimate FreeBSD release. Additionally, a release should be = available > via the appropriate tags in the CVS and SVN repositories available = from > freebsd.org machines. Thanks. I wonder who that "entity" is? Everyone with a commit bit, or perhaps just the RE team? Anyway, it's not very important in this context. I also tracked this down, but might be out of date. = http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-proc.ht= ml "New releases of FreeBSD are released from the -STABLE branch at = approximately four month intervals." To be honest, I'm sure we all agree this sort of discussion is not = useful on hackers=20 and obviously at some point needs to turn into work rather than points = of view. Mostly it just boils down, "lets see if we can do -STABLE point releases a bit more = frequently". - Mark
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