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Date:      Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:25:29 -0800
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   1. Closure: Vetting motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78G-DS3H for
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   2. [Trouble Ticket #190456] AutoReply: freebsd-questions Digest,
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:23:05 -0800 (PST)
From: ThinkDifferently <Jeremy@FutureCIS.com>
Subject: Closure: Vetting motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78G-DS3H for
	FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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Frank Shute-2 wrote:
> 
> I've had good luck with anything by Asus and Gigabyte. I tend to avoid
> boards with bleeding edge hardware/features as these will not have
> received so much testing (and may not even be supported) on FreeBSD.
> This in practice means get a board that's been on sale for a bit.
> 

In my research and unwitting trials with this particular motherboard
(Gigabyte GA-MA78G-DS3H), I found that, while it is generally well tolerated
by FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE, the onboard RAID is completely incompatible.  Even
when a RocketRAID 3120 card was used, the RAID could be built, but the ar0
device thus created, did not survive a reboot.  Also, a software RAID was
attempted -- after a minimal install from CD, the atacontrol command was
used to create RAID ar0, then (without rebooting) exiting back to the
installer, the OS was loaded onto it; however, upon reboot, ar0 could not be
found.  In other words, it could not boot from any RAID, whether by software
in FreeBSD or by hardware on RocketRAID.

The problem stems from the board's Southbridge SB700 chipset (the infamous
700 series).  This chipset is not (yet?) supported in FreeBSD.

Other notes on this board include the following:
-Generic VGA worked.
-The onboard LAN (chipset 8111C) worked in 7.1-RELEASE, but not 7.0.
-If the SATA ports are put into AHCI or Native IDE modes, individual disks
were recognized, but in RAID mode, neither the RAID nor individual disks
could be seen.
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      Vol 246, Issue 38  (AEBC Support via RT)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:08:35 -0700
From: Steve Franks <bahamasfranks@gmail.com>
Subject: swfdec-plugin
To: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
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Anyone get swfdec-plugin to work?  Doesn't show up in firefox3's list
of plugins (neither does mplayer-plugin or gnash).  Does port
installation order matter?   Do I have to delete .firefox or some
other slight-of-hand?

Thanks,
Steve


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:08:45 +0000
From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Subject: Re: change root pasword
To: Valdis Ziedin,s( <valdis.ziedins@gmail.com>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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Valdis Ziedin,��������� wrote:
> hi,
> i'm new your product user! my first admin leave new server with freebsd!
> someone change root pasword can you help me step by step change this
> pasword! i'll be thankfull!
> 
> i'm now studing your product but if you can help me it would be nice!
> 

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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   3. Re: Intel 5100 AGN WiFi (Ghirai)
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   5. Re: Filesystem tunning (Clifton Royston)
   6. Do I need to run netif stop/start if IP is changed? (Peter Steele)
   7. Re: Do I need to run netif stop/start if IP is changed?
      (Frank Staals)
   8. Re: FreeBSD7+KDE3, IPMI module, no mouse input (Wojciech Puchar)
   9. Re: Filesystem tunning (Matias Surdi)
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   5. Re: source of uname information (Trober)
   6. Re: source of uname information (Trober)
   7. Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0 (Robert Huff)
   8. LPRng-3.8.A on FreeBSD-7.0amd64 (luizbcampos)
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  11. Re: kvm switch (Bobby)
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      Vol 246,	Issue 36  (Jaybee Bambilla via RT)
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      (Wojciech Puchar)
  14. Re: source of uname information (Trober)
  15. Re: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0 (Jerry)
  16. RE: Motherboard support (Graeme Dargie)
  17. Re: source of uname information (RW)
  18. Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap? (RW)
  19. Re: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
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  20. pam_start error (William Bentley)
  21. Re: source of uname information (Trober)
  22. Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap? (Razor)
  23. Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
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  24. Re: switching bsdlabel's label (Jerry McAllister)
  25. FreeBSD7+KDE3, IPMI module, no mouse input (Pieter Donche)
  26. ipfw + bridge + pppoe (alex)
  27. Re: switching bsdlabel's label (Oliver Fromme)
  28. Re: source of uname information (Robert Huff)
  29. Re: switching bsdlabel's label (Patrick Tracanelli)
  30. HTTP proxy which prints HTTP in human readable form
      (Matthias Apitz)
  31. Re: HTTP proxy which prints HTTP in human readable form
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   6. Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0 (Jerry)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:01:04 +0100
From: Matias Surdi <matiassurdi@gmail.com>
Subject: Filesystem tunning
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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Hi,

Is there any way to avoid the system going to single user mode when a 
secondary storage device cannot be mounted?.

I mean, if all system filesystems are OK, how can set up a device with a 
custom mount point so that when it's tried to mount at boot time and 
fails doesn't cause the system to be in single user mode?

I know that if in fstab I set the last parameter to "0" checking will 
not be made at boot time, but instead what I want is the check to be 
run, correct any automatically correctable error, and continue booting 
anyway, despite the result of the check.Later a custom script will check 
the filesystem and send a mail, for example.

Thanks for your help.



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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:34:01 -0500
From: Jerry <gesbbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated to the
latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9 recently? It
appears that some ports are having problems with this odd version
update; i.e., "/news/inn" and possibly "/mail/mailscanner" as examples.

With the latest version of Perl having been released over a year ago,
it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to waste the time to port
an older version.

-- 
Jerry
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:10:05 +0100 (CET)
From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
To: Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/portsnap

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:

> Hi,
>   I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I couldn't
> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a tool can do
> this?
>
> Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:45:28 -0200
From: Eduardo Meyer <dudu.meyer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
To: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen@punkt.de>, stable@freebsd.org,
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:36:34PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Patrick M. Hausen <hausen@punkt.de> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:24:27PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>> >> I have a certain disk where da0s1a and da0s1d are inverted. By some
>> >> reason someone labelled root as 'd' and home as 'a'.
>> >>
>> >> Can I just
>> >>
>> >> bsdlabel -n da0s1 > savedabel.txt
>> >>
>> >> Edit savedlabel.txt, switch and restore? (bsdlabel -R da0s1 savedlabel)
>> >
>> > Why not simply use bsdlabel -e da0s1?
>>
>> Because I didnt know about that? ;-)
>>
>> Thank you for the hint.
>>
>> However I still have the same doubt. Since basically its the same
>> task, Is it safe do relabel this way?
>
> Hmmm.  Is there stuff written on the disk.  Is root stuff really written
> on da0s1d and /home stuff really written on da0s1a?   Does the system boot
> from it OK?
>
> Or is it just that the mounts are switched.
> The mount points are not written in to the label.   That comes after
> booting.   If it boots, I wonder if it really is switched on the
> partitions or if it is just that the partitions are mounted backwards
> (probably due to editing /etc/fstab incorrectly).
>
> ////jerry

Hello Patrick, thanks again. Yes, label is switched. Yes there really
are stuff on the partitions. No, I dont boot from da0s1d. It is a disk
for migration. But the one who partitioned was fooled by Sysinstall
which creates the first label on extra disks as 'd' and the last from
the allowed 7 as 'a'. Therefore this server is still booting on the
original disk (ad6s1a) and everything else is mounted in the new one
(da0s1), everything but root.

>
>
>
>
>>
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Patrick
>> > --
>> > punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe
>> > Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100
>> > info@punkt.de       http://www.punkt.de
>> > Gf: J���������������������������������������������������������������������������������rgen Egeling      AG Mannheim 108285
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ===========
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>> pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com
>> profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:46:06 -0200
From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
Subject: Re: source of uname information
To: questions@freebsd.org,	"Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
Message-ID: <20090121124607.09B94140B0@karpathos.uni5.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


   Hi.
   I believe "YES", based on
   [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.b   in/uname/uname.c?rev=1.14.28.1;content-type=text%2Fplain   .
   See "NATIVE_SYSCTL2_GET(version, CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION)", on source
   abov   I hope I've helped.
   Trober
   trober@trober.com
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:38:26 -0200
From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
Subject: Re: source of uname information
To: questions@freebsd.org,	"Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
Message-ID: <20090121123826.D19AA140AD@karpathos.uni5.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


   Hi.
   I believe "YES", based on [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.   cgi/src/usr.bin/uname/uname.c?rev=1.14.28.1;content-type=3
   Dtext   See "   source above.
   I hope I've helpe   Trober
   trober@trober.com
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   4. 3D"mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"   5. ="http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions"


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:58:44 -0500
From: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
Subject: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <18807.7172.480547.436287@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii



>    I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated
>    to the latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9
>    recently?

	This was discussed within the last 2-3 weeks, either here or on
ports@.  Check the archives.
	If this is important, you can always volunteer to help the
Perl-porting team.


				Robert Huff



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:00:50 -0200
From: luizbcampos <luizbcampos@gmail.com>
Subject: LPRng-3.8.A on FreeBSD-7.0amd64
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
	<d534d2fe0901210500v392780fal4b90aa4f1e47735@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

     Trying to compile the latest version of LPRng (3.8.A) compatible
with all plataforms, I got an error:

       $ sh STANDARD_configuration
        #make clean all install
        #make: don`t know how to make AM_CPPFLAGS. Stop


     I`ve ever upgraded native FBSD-7.0amd64 gcc version-4.2  to the
latest gcc-44 but the failure lingers on. Suggestions?


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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:01:37 +0000
From: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49771CB1.3090106@unsane.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/portsnap
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>   I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
>> couldn't
>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a tool
>> can do
>> this?
>>
There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the portsnap
servers, but from the README with it.

"this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as well. 
There
is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while updating a
single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org) first."



So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to upgrade,)
go look in the cvs repository under projects.


Vince

>> Thanks.
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:06:50 -0500
From: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
Subject: Re: source of uname information
To: Trober <trober@trober.com>
Cc: questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <18807.7658.648830.399278@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


Trober <trober@trober.com>:

>>   Am I correct in believing "uname" gets its information from the
>>   kern.version sysctl?
>
>   I believe "YES", based on
>   [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.bin/uname/uname.c
>
>   See "= NATIVE_SYSCTL2_GET(ver= sion, CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION)", on
>   source above.
>
>   I hope I've helped.

	It does.
	Next question:
	Can someone explain this:

huff@jerusalem>> sysctl kern.version
kern.version: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 20 10:40:57 EST 2009
    huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM
huff@jerusalem>> uname -a
FreeBSD jerusalem.litteratus.org 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 20 10:40:57 EST 2009     huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM  i386


				Robert huff



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:53:34 -0600
From: Bobby <bobby@missionaccess.org>
Subject: Re: kvm switch
To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <200901201853.34513.bobby@missionaccess.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 12:38:12 am Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 08:16:28PM -0800, Kendall Shaw wrote:
> > Do you have a kvm switch that does mouse and keyboard emulation and know
> > that it works with freebsd?
> >
> > I have an iogear kvm switch from around the last time I asked this
> > question here years back, that has usually worked with linux, netbsd,
> > openbsd, macos and windows. Back then to work with freebsd, each time I
> > switched away and back I would login remotely and issue a command to get
> > freebsd to recognize the keyboard again.
> >
> > The newer version of my kvm switch says it has mouse and keyboard
> > emulation, but I can't get a straight answer out of them if that means
> > the OS can tell that they keyboard has disconnected or not. Do you know?
> > Or do you know of a KVM switch, that does that and is suitable for an
> > impoverished person's home computing needs?
> >
> > Also, I read someone's comment on newegg that the mouse emulation only
> > emulates 2 buttons. Do you know if that is true?

I am using a Trendnet TK-207 USB switch and it works very well with my system.  
It switches between FreeBSD and Vista, and I use a zBoard keyboard with my 
mouse plugged in through the keyboard.  I don't have any problems with this 
KVM, it works greaat.


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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:13:27 -0800
From: "Jaybee Bambilla via RT" <support@aebc.com>
Subject: [Trouble Ticket #190389] Resolved: freebsd-questions Digest,
	Vol 246,	Issue 36 
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
	<rt-3.8.2-24796-1232543607-409.190389-10-0@tracker2.aebc.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

According to our records, your request has been resolved. If you have any
further questions or concerns, please respond to this message.


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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:17 +0100 (CET)
From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
To: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090121141701.C26218@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

if portsnap could use proxies - it would be simple. but it cant

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Vincent Hoffman wrote:

> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/portsnap
>>
>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>   I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
>>> couldn't
>>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a tool
>>> can do
>>> this?
>>>
> There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the portsnap
> servers, but from the README with it.
>
> "this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as well.
> There
> is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
> but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while updating a
> single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
> mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
> official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org) first."
>
>
>
> So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to upgrade,)
> go look in the cvs repository under projects.
>
>
> Vince
>
>>> Thanks.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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>


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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:23:57 -0200
From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
Subject: Re: source of uname information
To: "Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
Cc: questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20090121132357.BA62C140A0@karpathos.uni5.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


      kern.version is small part only of output uname command   uname command concatane KERN_OSTYPE, KERN_HOSTNAME,
   KERN_OSRELEASE,&nb   output.
   I hope I've he   Trober
   trober@trober.com
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   ----- Mensagem Original -----

   
   Para: [2]Trober

   Cc: [3]questions@freebsd.org

   Data: Quarta, 21 De Janeiro De 2009 
   Assunto: Re: source of uname informa
     Trober :
     >>   Am I cor     the
     >>  &     >
     >   I believe "YES", ba     >   [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/s     rc/usr.bin/uname/uname.c
     >
     >   See "= NATIVE_SY     KERN_VERSION)", on
     >   sou     >
     >   I hope I've helped.
     It do     Next question:
     Can someone explain this:
     huff@jerusalem&     kern.version: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0:      2009
        huff@jerusalem.litterat     us.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM
     huff@jerusalem>> uname -a<     7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT     2009     huff@jerusalem.     litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM  i386
     Rober     _______________________________________________
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   4. file://localhost/tmp/3D   5. 3D"http://lists.freebsd.org/mai

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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:34:04 -0500
From: Jerry <gesbbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20090121083404.5ff1f70c@scorpio>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:58:44 -0500
Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> wrote:

>>    I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated
>>    to the latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9
>>    recently?  
>
>	This was discussed within the last 2-3 weeks, either here or on
>ports@.  Check the archives.
>	If this is important, you can always volunteer to help the
>Perl-porting team.

I subscribe to the port@ list as well as this one obviously and I do
not remember seeing that article. I will keep looking.

-- 
Jerry
gesbbb@yahoo.com

To stay young requires unceasing cultivation
of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods.

	Lazarus Long, "Time Enough For Love"
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:37:22 -0000
From: "Graeme Dargie" <arab@tangerine-army.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Motherboard support
To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
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Well I spent a little more time having a look in the bios

Here are the results from various settings and a potential solution.

SATA controller in Native IDE mode
All drives show as IDE at the POST summary screen on boot

In FreeBSD
SATA Ports 0-3 The disks show  
SATA Ports 4&5 No disks show

Dmesg shows the following

ad4: 476940MB <SAMSUNG HD502IJ 1AA01113> at ata2-master SATA300
ad6: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata3-master SATA300
ad8: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata4-master SATA300
ad10: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata5-master SATA300

SATA Controller in AHCI Mode
All drives show up on RAID Controller POST summary screen

In FreeBSD
SATA Ports 0-5 now show disks connected

Dmesg shows the following

ad4: 476940MB <SAMSUNG HD502IJ 1AA01113> at ata2-master SATA300
ad6: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata3-master SATA300
ad8: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata4-master SATA300
ad10: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata5-master SATA300
ad12: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata6-master SATA300
ad14: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata7-master SATA300

I have read there have been problems with the realtek 8169/8111c NIC
card on some systems with under FreeBSD, but I cant seem to find a
solution to this.

Regards

Graeme 

-----Original Message-----
From: Da Rock [mailto:rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au] 
Sent: 21 January 2009 10:36
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Motherboard support

On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 22:58 +0000, Graeme Dargie wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> I have built a machine with a Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2, running Freebsd
> 7.1. For the most part it is fine but I do have two problems
> 
>  
> 
> 1)       The NIC a realtek 8111C keeps giving watchdog timeout
messages
> and the link state changes from up to down and back to up again.
> 
>  
> 
> 2)       The two hard disks that are attached to the sata raid
> controller are not seen by Freebsd, the raid card is set to native ide
> as I want to use ZFS rather than the onboard raid system and all the
> drives are present at post. I understand this motherboard uses a
AMD740
> chipset and has 740 northbridge and a SB700 southbridge.
> 
>  
> 
> Any ideas tips pointers would be most welcome

I'm not sure about the NIC, but I don't think the native ide or sata
control matters in terms of zfs (I could be wrong, and please correct me
if so experts). The sata controller should recognize the disks with or
without raid, which freebsd should recognize then install on. I use sata
in this mode on my systems, and freebsd works fine. Any software raid
wouldn't care then as long as freebsd itself recognizes the drives.

HTH

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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:39:57 +0000
From: RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: source of uname information
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20090121133957.4aec8fef@gumby.homeunix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:06:50 -0500
Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> wrote:


> 	Can someone explain this:
> 
> huff@jerusalem>> sysctl kern.version
> kern.version: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 20 10:40:57 EST 2009
>     huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM
> huff@jerusalem>> uname -a
> FreeBSD jerusalem.litteratus.org 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0:
>

Do you have any UNAME_* variables set in the environment?


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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:55:59 +0000
From: RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20090121135559.656e37e9@gumby.homeunix.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:17 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:

> if portsnap could use proxies - it would be simple. but it cant


It's certainly supposed to, the man page says it does, fetch and
phttpget are both supposed to support proxies, and there's support in
the script for seeding the random selection of servers from the proxy
name.


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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:57:37 -0500
From: William Gordon Rutherdale <will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca>
Subject: Re: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <497729D1.20508@utoronto.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

As a newcomer to freebsd and a long time Perl user, this was one of the 
first things I noticed.  5.8.8 as distributed on freebsd 7.1 is 
extremely old.

-Will

Jerry wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated to the
> latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9 recently? It
> appears that some ports are having problems with this odd version
> update; i.e., "/news/inn" and possibly "/mail/mailscanner" as examples.
>
> With the latest version of Perl having been released over a year ago,
> it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to waste the time to port
> an older version.
>
>   



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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:38:36 -0500 (EST)
From: "William Bentley" <William@futurecis.com>
Subject: pam_start error
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
	<4479cd61ae3c5428930a1c670c7661cd.squirrel@secure.futurecis.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

Hello all,

I am currently running FreeBSD 7.1-Release and have run into a problem
that I nor google can find a solution too. I get the following errors upon
boot:

in openpam_load_module(): no /usr/local/lib/pam_ldap.so
pam_start:system error

I have reinstalled the ldap client and checked all config files. I have
also compared it to my other systems that are authenticating against the
ldap server and they are ok. I do not believe this is an ldap issue though
because I am not even able to login as root at the console. I have
verified that the pam_ldap.so file is in place and all permissions and
file sizes are correct.

Can anyone help?



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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:00:31 -0200
From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
Subject: Re: source of uname information
To: "Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20090121140032.B525F140B1@karpathos.uni5.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"


Hi!

Wow! Good question!

Sorry, I had not seen the difference between 7 and 8 in uname and sysctl output. Sorry.

What your /usr/obj/usr/src/include/vers.h file say in:

SCCSSTR
VERSTR
RELSTR
char ostype
char osrelease
int osreldate
kern_ident

Thanks.

Trober
trober@trober.com
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----- Mensagem Original -----
De: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
Para: Trober <trober@trober.com>
Data: Quarta, 21 De Janeiro De 2009 10:39
Assunto: Re: source of uname information

> 
> Trober writes:
> 
> >    kern.version is small part only of output uname command.
> >
> >    uname command concatane KERN_OSTYPE, KERN_HOSTNAME,
> >    KERN_OSRELEASE,&nb= sp;KERN_VERSION (not in this order) to show
> >    output.
> 
> 	The question is:
> 	Why do the sysctls say one thing, and uname another?
> 
> 
> 					Robert Huff
> 
> 



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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:36:38 +0800
From: Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
To: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
Cc: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>,
	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
	<910c4cb0901210636o717956afrbb1af2b2da6df9e@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Thank you. I have checked out the shell script for mirroring. I read the
notes in the script. My company may have a few user of portsnap. But they
usually complain about the portsnap mirror on the internet is so slow. My
company doesn't have a proxy, it seems to be using NAT. So if I change the
interval of running the mirror script to a few hours, it should not consume
lots of existing mirrors bandwidth?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk> wrote:

> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/portsnap
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>   I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
> >> couldn't
> >> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a tool
> >> can do
> >> this?
> >>
> There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the portsnap
> servers, but from the README with it.
>
> "this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as well.
> There
> is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
> but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while updating a
> single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
> mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
> official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org) first."
>
>
>
> So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to upgrade,)
> go look in the cvs repository under projects.
>
>
> Vince
>
> >> Thanks.
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:52:16 +0000
From: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497736A0.4060000@unsane.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> if portsnap could use proxies - it would be simple. but it cant
>
The manpage suggests you could,
"If you wish to use portsnap to keep a large number of machines up to
date, you may wish to set up a caching HTTP proxy.  Since portsnap
         uses fetch(1) to download updates, setting the HTTP_PROXY
environment
         variable will direct it to fetch updates from the given proxy. 
This
         is much more efficient than mirroring the files on the portsnap
         server, since the vast majority of files are not needed by any par-
         ticular client."

I havent tried this though.

Vince
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
>
>> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror
>>> /var/db/portsnap
>>>
>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>   I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
>>>> couldn't
>>>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a tool
>>>> can do
>>>> this?
>>>>
>> There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the portsnap
>> servers, but from the README with it.
>>
>> "this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as well.
>> There
>> is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
>> but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while updating a
>> single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
>> mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
>> official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org)
>> first."
>>
>>
>>
>> So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to upgrade,)
>> go look in the cvs repository under projects.
>>
>>
>> Vince
>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:00:46 -0500
From: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
To: Eduardo Meyer <dudu.meyer@gmail.com>
Cc: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>, "Patrick M. Hausen"
	<hausen@punkt.de>,	stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20090121150046.GA61468@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:45:28AM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:36:34PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Patrick M. Hausen <hausen@punkt.de> wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:24:27PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
> >> >> I have a certain disk where da0s1a and da0s1d are inverted. By some
> >> >> reason someone labelled root as 'd' and home as 'a'.
> >> >>
> >> >> Can I just
> >> >>
> >> >> bsdlabel -n da0s1 > savedabel.txt
> >> >>
> >> >> Edit savedlabel.txt, switch and restore? (bsdlabel -R da0s1 savedlabel)
> >> >
> >> > Why not simply use bsdlabel -e da0s1?
> >>
> >> Because I didnt know about that? ;-)
> >>
> >> Thank you for the hint.
> >>
> >> However I still have the same doubt. Since basically its the same
> >> task, Is it safe do relabel this way?
> >
> > Hmmm.  Is there stuff written on the disk.  Is root stuff really written
> > on da0s1d and /home stuff really written on da0s1a?   Does the system boot
> > from it OK?
> >
> > Or is it just that the mounts are switched.
> > The mount points are not written in to the label.   That comes after
> > booting.   If it boots, I wonder if it really is switched on the
> > partitions or if it is just that the partitions are mounted backwards
> > (probably due to editing /etc/fstab incorrectly).
> >
> > ////jerry
> 
> Hello Patrick, thanks again. Yes, label is switched. Yes there really
> are stuff on the partitions. No, I dont boot from da0s1d. It is a disk
> for migration. But the one who partitioned was fooled by Sysinstall
> which creates the first label on extra disks as 'd' and the last from
> the allowed 7 as 'a'. Therefore this server is still booting on the
> original disk (ad6s1a) and everything else is mounted in the new one
> (da0s1), everything but root.

What sysinstall does is assume that the 'a' partition will be
used for a root mount and the 'b' partition will be used for swap.
Sinc 'c' is reserved, it starts with 'd'.   Then, if you later 
add an 'a' it will end up being later (higher offset) than the 'd'.

I suppose it might confuse a person, but otherwise it is no problem
and probably would be best to just leave it that way.   You really
only need to use the mount point anyway most of the time.  So, if
the mount point addresses the partition you want to with that name,
then you should have no problem.

You could switch it around using bsdlabel, but I don't think the 
risk would be worth the negligible gain.   But, do as you wish.

////jerry     


> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Kind regards,
> >> > Patrick
> >> > --
> >> > punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe
> >> > Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100
> >> > info@punkt.de       http://www.punkt.de
> >> > Gf: J���������������������������������������������������������������������������������rgen Egeling      AG Mannheim 108285
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ===========
> >> Eduardo Meyer
> >> pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com
> >> profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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> >>
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ===========
> Eduardo Meyer
> pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com
> profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br
> 


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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:11:37 +0100 (CET)
From: Pieter Donche <Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be>
Subject: FreeBSD7+KDE3, IPMI module, no mouse input
To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.63.0901211559550.28548@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

Installed FreeBSD7.0-amd on a Supermicro system that has an
IPMI module (=Remote server management through webbrowser (Java appl.))

After installing Xorg and kde3, when connecting through the IPMI,
the KDM login manager shows its login window. Keyboard input works, but 
mouse input does not (the mouse pointer moves, but clicking on e.g.
the 'Menu' button in KDM login window does nothing)

(the IPMI console window shows in the bottom right corner a keyboard
and mouse icon, indicating that both should be available)

Also, after some time the screen gets black and reports 'No signal'

I can still do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a FreeBSD ASCII console login:
prompt.

Another Ctrl-ALt-F9 gets me back to KDE3 login window (keyboard but
no mouse input accepted)

what can be wrong and how to remedy?


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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:55:51 +0200
From: alex <alx333@gmail.com>
Subject: ipfw + bridge + pppoe
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
	<b010ef770901210655k3c05fdbdh95eca7b8b5469907@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi guys!
Just wondering if any of you know how to filter traffic (PPPOE,TCP,IP) by
the means of ipfw, on bridge with FreeBSD 7.x installed, in the case when
all traffic passing through the bridge is encapsulated in PPPOE.
Thanks.


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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:27:50 +0100 (CET)
From: Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de>
Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG,
	jerrymc@msu.edu,	Eduardo Meyer <dudu.meyer@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901211527.n0LFRoGp031740@lurza.secnetix.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Jerry McAllister wrote:
 > What sysinstall does is assume that the 'a' partition will be
 > used for a root mount and the 'b' partition will be used for swap.
 > Sinc 'c' is reserved, it starts with 'd'.   Then, if you later 
 > add an 'a' it will end up being later (higher offset) than the 'd'.
 > 
 > I suppose it might confuse a person, but otherwise it is no problem
 > and probably would be best to just leave it that way.

The boot process assumes (by default) that the root file
system is on the "a" partition.  If it isn't, you won't
be able to boot from that disk, unless you enter the real
root partition at the boot0 prompt.

So it is really a good idea to switch the partitions in
the label before putting that disk into production.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:35:35 -0500
From: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
Subject: Re: source of uname information
To: Trober <trober@trober.com>
Cc: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <18807.16583.372061.713345@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


Trober writes:

>  What your /usr/obj/usr/src/include/vers.h file say in:

	No such file.

					Robert Huff



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Message: 29
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:13:31 -0200
From: Patrick Tracanelli <eksffa@freebsdbrasil.com.br>
Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
To: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Eduardo Meyer <dudu.meyer@gmail.com>,
	questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <49773B9B.4060402@freebsdbrasil.com.br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Jerry McAllister escreveu:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:45:28AM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:36:34PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Patrick M. Hausen <hausen@punkt.de> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:24:27PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>>>> I have a certain disk where da0s1a and da0s1d are inverted. By some
>>>>>> reason someone labelled root as 'd' and home as 'a'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I just
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bsdlabel -n da0s1 > savedabel.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Edit savedlabel.txt, switch and restore? (bsdlabel -R da0s1 savedlabel)
>>>>> Why not simply use bsdlabel -e da0s1?
>>>> Because I didnt know about that? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the hint.
>>>>
>>>> However I still have the same doubt. Since basically its the same
>>>> task, Is it safe do relabel this way?
>>> Hmmm.  Is there stuff written on the disk.  Is root stuff really written
>>> on da0s1d and /home stuff really written on da0s1a?   Does the system boot
>>> from it OK?
>>>
>>> Or is it just that the mounts are switched.
>>> The mount points are not written in to the label.   That comes after
>>> booting.   If it boots, I wonder if it really is switched on the
>>> partitions or if it is just that the partitions are mounted backwards
>>> (probably due to editing /etc/fstab incorrectly).
>>>
>>> ////jerry
>> Hello Patrick, thanks again. Yes, label is switched. Yes there really
>> are stuff on the partitions. No, I dont boot from da0s1d. It is a disk
>> for migration. But the one who partitioned was fooled by Sysinstall
>> which creates the first label on extra disks as 'd' and the last from
>> the allowed 7 as 'a'. Therefore this server is still booting on the
>> original disk (ad6s1a) and everything else is mounted in the new one
>> (da0s1), everything but root.
> 
> What sysinstall does is assume that the 'a' partition will be
> used for a root mount and the 'b' partition will be used for swap.
> Sinc 'c' is reserved, it starts with 'd'.   Then, if you later 
> add an 'a' it will end up being later (higher offset) than the 'd'.
> 
> I suppose it might confuse a person, but otherwise it is no problem
> and probably would be best to just leave it that way.   You really
> only need to use the mount point anyway most of the time.  So, if
> the mount point addresses the partition you want to with that name,
> then you should have no problem.
> 
> You could switch it around using bsdlabel, but I don't think the 
> risk would be worth the negligible gain.   But, do as you wish.
> 
> ////jerry     
> 
> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>> --
>>>>> punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe
>>>>> Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100
>>>>> info@punkt.de       http://www.punkt.de
>>>>> Gf: J���������������������������������������������������������������������������������rgen Egeling      AG Mannheim 108285

Hello,

Yes, you can do this change anytime you want, since (1) da0s1* are 
unmounted and (2) disk is clean. Therefore I suggest you are in single 
user mode. If you feel unsure, backup the current label scheme with

disklabel da0s1 -n > da0s1.disklabel.bk

You can restore anytime with the Rescue Disk.

Go ahead, no problem.

Sometimes you will really have problem booting from a disk if root is 
not on label 'a'. I believe it can be workarounded, but your will is 
safe, go ahead and switch the labels.

You can always remember the person who did this from sysinstall that 
sysinstall will label as 'a' if the mount point is root (/).

Therefore if someone wants to use sysinstall for labelling in 
production, and wont mount on / since / has the current root, one can 
always fool sysinstall, (C)reating the partition, using / as mpoint and 
mater redefining the (M)ount point to somewhere else, say, to /mnt.

I always relabel this way, never had a problem. TinyBSD sometimes 
relabels this way too, for some PC Engines Wrap boards. Go ahead.

-- 
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Message: 30
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:47:08 +0100
From: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>
Subject: HTTP proxy which prints HTTP in human readable form
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20090121154708.GA14011@rebelion.Sisis.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


Hello,

I've to debug the HTTP traffic between Firefox and some kind of file
management server to nail down a problem in the communication between
them, perhaps based on the content of the cookies or other HTTP data;

ofc, I could watch the connection with tcpdump, but maybe there is some better
HTTP-proxy-like tool in the /usr/ports which prints the HTTP in better human
readable form... any ideas? thx

	matthias
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Message: 31
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:58:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: Dave Feustel <dfeustel@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: HTTP proxy which prints HTTP in human readable form
To: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20090121155853.D5A0F8FC26@mx1.freebsd.org>

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 04:47:08PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I've to debug the HTTP traffic between Firefox and some kind of file
> management server to nail down a problem in the communication between
> them, perhaps based on the content of the cookies or other HTTP data;
> 
> ofc, I could watch the connection with tcpdump, but maybe there is some better
> HTTP-proxy-like tool in the /usr/ports which prints the HTTP in better human
> readable form... any ideas? thx
> 
> 	matthias

Try FireBug, a FireFox plugin documented in _Web Security Testing
Cookbook_ a book which I highly recommend. It converted me from
Konqueror to FireFox in about 30 seconds when I found out about
NoScript, another Firefox extension.


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Message: 32
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:21:29 -0500
From: Steven Kreuzer <skreuzer@exit2shell.com>
Subject: Re: HTTP proxy which prints HTTP in human readable form
To: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <9E235687-8BF4-417E-9CD4-52D317E5B3C9@exit2shell.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes


On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I've to debug the HTTP traffic between Firefox and some kind of file
> management server to nail down a problem in the communication between
> them, perhaps based on the content of the cookies or other HTTP data;
>
> ofc, I could watch the connection with tcpdump, but maybe there is  
> some better
> HTTP-proxy-like tool in the /usr/ports which prints the HTTP in  
> better human
> readable form... any ideas? thx


Take a look at HttpFox, which  monitors and analyzes all incoming and
outgoing HTTP traffic between the browser and the web servers.

Information available per request includes:
- Request and response headers
- Sent and received cookies
- Querystring parameters
- POST parameters
- Response body

Its in ports (www/xpi-httpfox) or you can grab it from
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6647

--
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http://www.exit2shell.com/~skreuzer



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:53:49 -1000
From: Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>
Subject: Re: Edit user groups
To: Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com>
Cc: questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20090121165348.GA13963@lava.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 09:23:32PM -0700, Tim Judd wrote:
> Clifton Royston wrote:
> >Good advice given so far (pw is a good tool, direct editing works) but
> >I'd also suggest you consider installing and using sudo; I always
> >install it on all of my systems and use it probably 10-20 times as
> >often as su.
> >  
...
> I think sudo is a false sense of security.  If a user trusts another, 
> and give sudo access, why not give the whole OS to them?
 
  Among other reasons, because it allows you to partition privileges
and give access for specific users (or groups of users) to specific
accounts only, or to execute only a specific set of commands as root or
another user.  When I was running a department of technical support
staff and another group of junior administrators, this ability to limit
and partition powers was a life-saver.

  I think you mistrust sudo because you do not yet understand it as
well as su (also essential, but a more blunt instrument.)

> Sudo's out there -- don't get me wrong, but you won't catch me dead with 
> a box with sudo installed.  I think it's a very misleading tool.  And 
> not to say they do -- but what if the devs put in a keygen...do you 
> monitor the sudo source code?

  Rarely, but it's freely available, and thousands if not tens of
thousands of other programmers and admins have access to it, and do
check it enough to find the occasional bug.  Same as the source to su,
or to the OS as a whole; has it never occurred to you there are trust
issues there as well?
 
> And if I remember correctly -- the way sudo gets it's work done is a 
> SUID bit to root. 

  Dude, how do you think su works?

  -- Clifton

-- 
    Clifton Royston  --  cliftonr@iandicomputing.com / cliftonr@lava.net
       President  - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/
 Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:57:39 +0200
From: Ghirai <ghirai@ghirai.com>
Subject: Re: Intel 5100 AGN WiFi
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Da Rock <rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au>
Message-ID: <200901211857.39310.ghirai@ghirai.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-15"

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 12:41:23 Da Rock wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:48 +0200, Ghirai wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > After a quick search it appears that Intel 5100 AGN wifi card is not
> > supported (at least not in RELEASE?).
> > If so, are there plans, dev. in progress, etc?
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> AFAIK this uses the iwn driver which a group of us is now working on.
> Backports (testing) exist for 7.1, and there are several references to
> them on this list. Use the latest, and post back here with your results
> which will help us further the task (/var/log/messages, dmesg, etc).
>
> Just to check that this is the driver you need, run a pciconf -lv and
> post the result back here.
>

I was shopping for a notebook that has this card, and wanted to make sure.
I'll post info if i buy it.

Thanks.


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:14:49 -1000
From: Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>
Subject: Re: Filesystem tunning
To: Matias Surdi <matiassurdi@gmail.com>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20090121171447.GB13963@lava.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:01:04PM +0100, Matias Surdi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there any way to avoid the system going to single user mode when a 
> secondary storage device cannot be mounted?.
> 
> I mean, if all system filesystems are OK, how can set up a device with a 
> custom mount point so that when it's tried to mount at boot time and 
> fails doesn't cause the system to be in single user mode?
> 
> I know that if in fstab I set the last parameter to "0" checking will 
> not be made at boot time, but instead what I want is the check to be 
> run, correct any automatically correctable error, and continue booting 
> anyway, despite the result of the check.Later a custom script will check 
> the filesystem and send a mail, for example.

Try this:

 Set to "noauto" in /etc/fstab, and add a custom script to run at the
end of the boot process to check and mount your special device if it's
OK, and do whatever additional processing you want if not.
  -- Clifton

-- 
    Clifton Royston  --  cliftonr@iandicomputing.com / cliftonr@lava.net
       President  - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/
 Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:20:07 -0800
From: "Peter Steele" <psteele@maxiscale.com>
Subject: Do I need to run netif stop/start if IP is changed?
To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Message-ID:
	<2ACA3DE8F9758A48B8BE2C7A847F91F247A4BB@polaris.maxiscale.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

We have systems that upon initial configuration have no IP addresses
assigned. Their rc.conf entries look like this:

 

ifconfig_nfe0="UP"

ifconfig_nfe1="UP"

cloned_interfaces="lagg0"

ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport nfe0 laggport nfe1"

defaultrouter="0.0.0.0"

 

The user later runs a tool and specifies the IP address to use for a
given system. This tool modifies ifconfig and default router lines, e.g.

 

ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport nfe0 laggport nfe1
192.168.17.49 netmask 255.255.240.0"

defaultrouter="192.168.16.1"

 

and also executes explicit ifconfig and route add commands that match
the entries in rc.conf. 

 

The question is, should we also execute a netif stop/start sequence when
this IP/router information is assigned? Are there other services that
should also be stopped/restarted when the IP is set? Ideally, we want to
avoid having to reboot the box to set the IP as we are doing.

 

 



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:33:00 +0100
From: Frank Staals <frankstaals@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: Do I need to run netif stop/start if IP is changed?
To: Peter Steele <psteele@maxiscale.com>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <49775C4C.2010305@gmx.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Peter Steele wrote:
> We have systems that upon initial configuration have no IP addresses
> assigned. Their rc.conf entries look like this:
>
>  
>
>   
<snip>
> and also executes explicit ifconfig and route add commands that match
> the entries in rc.conf. 
>
>  
>
> The question is, should we also execute a netif stop/start sequence when
> this IP/router information is assigned? Are there other services that
> should also be stopped/restarted when the IP is set? Ideally, we want to
> avoid having to reboot the box to set the IP as we are doing.
>
>   
As far as I know you do not have to, changing interface settings with 
ifconfig should be enough. I used to have a script to switch between LAN 
and WLAN on my laptop which used only ifconfig <ip>, route flush and 
route add default <routerip>.  Only thing that comes to mind that could 
go wrong if daemons are configured to listen on a specifc ip instead of  
(default) configs with :<port>.

Regards,

-- 

- Frank



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:43:58 +0100 (CET)
From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD7+KDE3, IPMI module, no mouse input
To: Pieter Donche <Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be>
Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <20090121184341.S26924@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

> IPMI module (=Remote server management through webbrowser (Java appl.))
>
> After installing Xorg and kde3, when connecting through the IPMI,
> the KDM login manager shows its login window. Keyboard input works, but mouse 
> input does not (the mouse pointer moves, but clicking on e.g.
> the 'Menu' button in KDM login window does nothing)
>
> (the IPMI console window shows in the bottom right corner a keyboard
> and mouse icon, indicating that both should be available)
>
> Also, after some time the screen gets black and reports 'No signal'
>
> I can still do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a FreeBSD ASCII console login:
> prompt.
>
> Another Ctrl-ALt-F9 gets me back to KDE3 login window (keyboard but
> no mouse input accepted)
>
> what can be wrong and how to remedy?

use normal unix tools for remote administration not IPMI


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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:25:02 +0100
From: Matias Surdi <matiassurdi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Filesystem tunning
To: Matias Surdi <matiassurdi@gmail.com>,
	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
	<720ff42b0901210925h13871dd4kae557680576741a2@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

This should work. I'll try it.

Thanks for the idea

2009/1/21 Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:01:04PM +0100, Matias Surdi wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there any way to avoid the system going to single user mode when a
>> secondary storage device cannot be mounted?.
>>
>> I mean, if all system filesystems are OK, how can set up a device with a
>> custom mount point so that when it's tried to mount at boot time and
>> fails doesn't cause the system to be in single user mode?
>>
>> I know that if in fstab I set the last parameter to "0" checking will
>> not be made at boot time, but instead what I want is the check to be
>> run, correct any automatically correctable error, and continue booting
>> anyway, despite the result of the check.Later a custom script will check
>> the filesystem and send a mail, for example.
>
> Try this:
>
>  Set to "noauto" in /etc/fstab, and add a custom script to run at the
> end of the boot process to check and mount your special device if it's
> OK, and do whatever additional processing you want if not.
>  -- Clifton
>
> --
>    Clifton Royston  --  cliftonr@iandicomputing.com / cliftonr@lava.net
>       President  - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/
>  Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services
>



-- 
Matias Emanuel Surdi.
http://lounicoquefaltaba.com.ar


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:01:43 -0700
From: Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.
To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <20090121180143.GA11062@kokopelli.hydra>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:50:55AM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
> 
> And, unfortunately, that doesn't help. I think the procedure described
> by George Davidovich is your best bet.

I haven't used Thunderbird in a very long time, but . . . can't you
import emails from OE to Thunderbird on the MS Windows system, then move
them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import them to
Thunderbird there?

-- 
Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: "It is a common failing of man not to take
account of tempests during fair weather."
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:37:20 -0800
From: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.
To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:50:55AM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
>>
>> And, unfortunately, that doesn't help. I think the procedure described
>> by George Davidovich is your best bet.
>
> I haven't used Thunderbird in a very long time, but . . . can't you
> import emails from OE to Thunderbird on the MS Windows system, then move
> them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import them to
> Thunderbird there?
>
> --
> Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
> Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: "It is a common failing of man not to take
> account of tempests during fair weather."

I don't know. I haven't used OE in over 10 years.

Kurt


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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:47:41 -0700
From: Steve Franks <bahamasfranks@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Flash for FreeBSD -> GNOME -> Firefox
To: Grant Peel <gpeel@thenetnow.com>
Cc: herbert langhans <herbert.raimund@gmx.net>,
	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
	<539c60b90901211047l7efceadeld7896ffcf0c83a4b@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM, herbert langhans
<herbert.raimund@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi Grant,
> here is a full description how to do that:
> http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl

The info on swfdec on this page appears to be outdated - the swfdec
homepage quotes a release on 12/21/08, and purportedly works with
youtube; I'm testing it now myself...

Steve


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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:51:45 -0800
From: pete wright <nomadlogic@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Edit user groups
To: Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com>
Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Akenner <SlackWareWolf@comcast.net>,
	Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>
Message-ID:
	<57d710000901211051u12ad4ca6ifc5b96046953c4dd@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

<sorry OT>
>>
>>
>
> and I recommend against sudo because it's very design is a man-in-the-middle
> type of scenario, and one typo by the sudo devs can possibly make a mess out
> of things.
>
> I think sudo makes a lazy admin -- too easy to just run in and hit
> something.
>
> I think sudo is a false sense of security.  If a user trusts another, and
> give sudo access, why not give the whole OS to them?
>
> Sudo's out there -- don't get me wrong, but you won't catch me dead with a
> box with sudo installed.  I think it's a very misleading tool.  And not to
> say they do -- but what if the devs put in a keygen...do you monitor the
> sudo source code?
>
> And if I remember correctly -- the way sudo gets it's work done is a SUID
> bit to root.  Those are the devil's eggs that hatch and just cause havoc.  A
> rogue CGI calling sudo to do something on the website, buffer overflow (with
> php!) and you've gotten rooted.
>
> No, no -- I hate sudo for it's own doing.  It's going to eat itself alive.
>
> </rant>  No flames please.

not a flame, but a point of order - you can grant sudo privs to a user
that does not automatically give them full root/wheel privs.  i recon
this is something that most admins have had to come across when
working in a multiuser environment.

what sudo also does provides you is:
1) an audit trail of who did what, when with said escalated privs
2) a way to give non-wheel users access to run specific commands that
may require escalted privs

so i'm not really sure why one would want to throw out the baby with
the bath water, it's just another layer on the onion - and much better
than giving everyone root access, or requiring the one or two trusted
users in wheel to executed any program that may require escalated
privs (rndc reload, apachectl reload come to mind immediately).

-p

-- 
~~o0OO0o~~
Pete Wright
www.nycbug.org
NYC's *BSD User Group


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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:20:20 -0800
From: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Firefox and Java?
To: FreeBSD Questions <questions@freebsd.org>
Message-ID:
	<a9f4a3860901211120v1c48e9f9kd282776751e3a128@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

More info:

grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep java
javavmwrapper-2.3.2 Wrapper script for various Java Virtual Machines
grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep jdk
diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_3 Java Development Kit 1.6.0_07.02

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can't seem to get this working - trying to use a java client for our
> SSL VPN appliance, and am getting told by the browser that Java isn't
> enabled.
>
> I see "/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so", so
> according to the googling I've been doing that's correct. Any thoughts
> on how to proceed?
>
> grimsqueaker-bsd# uname -a
> FreeBSD grimsqueaker-bsd.pigfarm.org 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #7:
> Sun Jan 11 21:12:44 PST 2009     root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> amd64
>
> grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep firefox
> firefox-3.0.5_1,1   Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla
>


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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:11:58 -0800
From: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
Subject: Firefox and Java?
To: FreeBSD Questions <questions@freebsd.org>
Message-ID:
	<a9f4a3860901211111r75279e74k1a103f8c8581a7e6@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Can't seem to get this working - trying to use a java client for our
SSL VPN appliance, and am getting told by the browser that Java isn't
enabled.

I see "/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so", so
according to the googling I've been doing that's correct. Any thoughts
on how to proceed?

grimsqueaker-bsd# uname -a
FreeBSD grimsqueaker-bsd.pigfarm.org 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #7:
Sun Jan 11 21:12:44 PST 2009     root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
amd64

grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep firefox
firefox-3.0.5_1,1   Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla


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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:44:44 -0500
From: FreeBSD <freebsd@optiksecurite.com>
Subject: Re: Advice for dump/restore over SSH
To: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
Cc: Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>,	"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"
	<freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <49777B2C.70901@optiksecurite.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Odhiambo Washington a ������������������������������������������������������crit :
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl 
> <mailto:rsmith@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> 
>     On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 05:43:56PM -0500, Freebsd wrote:
>      >
>      > Sounds pretty interesting to me but i couldn't test right now. As nc
>      > is in /usr/bin how will i not face the same problem as with ssh? Can
>      > you point me to a freebsd live cd that has nc included?
> 
>     The 7.0-RELEASE livefs CD that I had lying around has nc on it. As does
>     the 6.1-RELEASE disc 1 that I also found. So I think all install/lifefs
>     images have nc. I suggest that you get e.g. 7.1-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso
>     or 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso (depending on your hardware
>     architecture) from your nearest ftp mirror.
> 
> 
> Hi Roland,
> 
> While still on this topic...
> Now that FreeBSD went DVD, does one still need the 
> X.Y-RELEASE-i386{amd64}-livefs.iso still, or the DVD had a complete 
> livefs functionality as well?

It worked perfectly with the DVD of 7.1-RELEASE for i386.

Thanks a lot Roland for your precises answers. You're saving me a lot of 
time.

Martin


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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:35:06 +0200
From: Valdis Ziedi?? <valdis.ziedins@gmail.com>
Subject: change root pasword
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID:
	<ad035300901211135l51ea8d71n20b139eca7eb5444@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

hi,
i'm new your product user! my first admin leave new server with freebsd!
someone change root pasword can you help me step by step change this
pasword! i'll be thankfull!

i'm now studing your product but if you can help me it would be nice!

best regart valdis


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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:03:04 -0500
From: APseudoUtopia <apseudoutopia@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: change root pasword
To: Valdis Ziedi?? <valdis.ziedins@gmail.com>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
	<27ade5280901211203g728fbfa9k74ebafb80a21887e@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Valdis Ziedi������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
<valdis.ziedins@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi,
> i'm new your product user! my first admin leave new server with freebsd!
> someone change root pasword can you help me step by step change this
> pasword! i'll be thankfull!
>
> i'm now studing your product but if you can help me it would be nice!
>
> best regart valdis
> _______________________________________________
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man passwd


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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:08:16 +0200
From: KES <kes-kes@yandex.ru>
Subject: 'top' shows wrong CPU usage
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <571280828.20090121220816@yandex.ru>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251

Hello, Freebsd-questions.

top shows often nonsense in CPU usage of a process, but totals are OK
and it seems that WCPU and CPU has no differences in results

top -S
last pid: 66182;  load averages:  2.51,  2.15,  2.03             up 10+23:40:14  22:05:41
798 processes: 6 running, 772 sleeping, 1 zombie, 18 waiting, 1 lock
CPU:  4.4% user,  0.0% nice, 14.8% system, 16.7% interrupt, 64.0% idle
Mem: 264M Active, 60M Inact, 147M Wired, 6968K Cache, 60M Buf, 9888K Free
Swap: 2048M Total, 1903M Used, 145M Free, 92% Inuse

  PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU COMMAND
   11 root          1 171 ki31     0K     8K RUN    104.1H 88.48% idle: cpu0
66178 firebird      1  49    0 23120K  5828K select   0:00  1.37% fb_inet_server
66159 firebird      1  48    0 23120K  5760K select   0:01  1.17% fb_inet_server
 5156 root          1  44    0  9024K   544K select  57:39  0.68% snmpd
66182 root          1  44    0  4556K  2608K RUN      0:00  0.68% top
66147 root          1   8    0  3124K   840K nanslp   0:00  0.59% monitord
66138 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5736K select   0:01  0.49% fb_inet_server
75745 www           1  44    0 24628K  9500K select   5:05  0.29% python2.5
66180 firebird      1  46    0 23120K  5852K select   0:00  0.10% fb_inet_server


#top -S -C
last pid: 66209;  load averages:  2.13,  2.10,  2.02             up 10+23:41:07  22:06:34
814 processes: 6 running, 788 sleeping, 1 zombie, 18 waiting, 1 lock
CPU:  9.3% user,  0.0% nice, 13.4% system, 12.8% interrupt, 64.5% idle
Mem: 269M Active, 56M Inact, 148M Wired, 12M Cache, 60M Buf, 3700K Free
Swap: 2048M Total, 1903M Used, 145M Free, 92% Inuse

  PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    TIME    CPU COMMAND
   11 root          1 171 ki31     0K     8K RUN    104.1H 92.29% idle: cpu0
66138 firebird      1  49    0 23120K  5556K select   0:01  1.46% fb_inet_server
66180 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5612K select   0:01  0.59% fb_inet_server
66209 root          1  44    0  4556K  2556K RUN      0:00  0.59% top
66179 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5624K select   0:01  0.49% fb_inet_server
 5156 root          1  44    0  9024K   544K select  57:39  0.39% snmpd
66147 root          1   8    0  3124K   840K nanslp   0:01  0.39% monitord
66178 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5584K select   0:01  0.20% fb_inet_server
   12 root          1 -44    -     0K     8K WAIT   126.8H  0.00% swi1: net
   42 root          1 -68    -     0K     8K -      219:53  0.00% dummynet

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> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/ 
> portsnap
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>> Hi,
>>  I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I  
>> couldn't
>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a  
>> tool can do
>> this?
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> Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
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> Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen@punkt.de>, stable@freebsd.org,
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> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>  
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>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:36:34PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Patrick M. Hausen  
>>> <hausen@punkt.de> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:24:27PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>>> I have a certain disk where da0s1a and da0s1d are inverted. By  
>>>>> some
>>>>> reason someone labelled root as 'd' and home as 'a'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I just
>>>>>
>>>>> bsdlabel -n da0s1 > savedabel.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> Edit savedlabel.txt, switch and restore? (bsdlabel -R da0s1  
>>>>> savedlabel)
>>>>
>>>> Why not simply use bsdlabel -e da0s1?
>>>
>>> Because I didnt know about that? ;-)
>>>
>>> Thank you for the hint.
>>>
>>> However I still have the same doubt. Since basically its the same
>>> task, Is it safe do relabel this way?
>>
>> Hmmm.  Is there stuff written on the disk.  Is root stuff really  
>> written
>> on da0s1d and /home stuff really written on da0s1a?   Does the  
>> system boot
>> from it OK?
>>
>> Or is it just that the mounts are switched.
>> The mount points are not written in to the label.   That comes after
>> booting.   If it boots, I wonder if it really is switched on the
>> partitions or if it is just that the partitions are mounted backwards
>> (probably due to editing /etc/fstab incorrectly).
>>
>> ////jerry
>
> Hello Patrick, thanks again. Yes, label is switched. Yes there really
> are stuff on the partitions. No, I dont boot from da0s1d. It is a disk
> for migration. But the one who partitioned was fooled by Sysinstall
> which creates the first label on extra disks as 'd' and the last from
> the allowed 7 as 'a'. Therefore this server is still booting on the
> original disk (ad6s1a) and everything else is mounted in the new one
> (da0s1), everything but root.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Patrick
>>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:46:06 -0200
> From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: questions@freebsd.org,	"Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
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>   Hi.
>   I believe "YES", based on
>   [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.b   in/uname/ 
> uname.c?rev=1.14.28.1;content-type=text%2Fplain   .
>   See "NATIVE_SYSCTL2_GET(version, CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION)", on source
>   abov   I hope I've helped.
>   Trober
>   trober@trober.com
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> From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: questions@freebsd.org,	"Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
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>   Hi.
>   I believe "YES", based on [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.    
> cgi/src/usr.bin/uname/uname.c?rev=1.14.28.1;content-type=3
>   Dtext   See "   source above.
>   I hope I've helpe   Trober
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:58:44 -0500
> From: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Subject: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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>
>>   I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated
>>   to the latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9
>>   recently?
>
> 	This was discussed within the last 2-3 weeks, either here or on
> ports@.  Check the archives.
> 	If this is important, you can always volunteer to help the
> Perl-porting team.
>
>
> 				Robert Huff
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:00:50 -0200
> From: luizbcampos <luizbcampos@gmail.com>
> Subject: LPRng-3.8.A on FreeBSD-7.0amd64
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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>     Trying to compile the latest version of LPRng (3.8.A) compatible
> with all plataforms, I got an error:
>
>       $ sh STANDARD_configuration
>        #make clean all install
>        #make: don`t know how to make AM_CPPFLAGS. Stop
>
>
>     I`ve ever upgraded native FBSD-7.0amd64 gcc version-4.2  to the
> latest gcc-44 but the failure lingers on. Suggestions?
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:01:37 +0000
> From: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
> To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <49771CB1.3090106@unsane.co.uk>
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> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/ 
>> portsnap
>>
>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>  I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
>>> couldn't
>>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a tool
>>> can do
>>> this?
>>>
> There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the portsnap
> servers, but from the README with it.
>
> "this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as well.
> There
> is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
> but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while updating a
> single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
> mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
> official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org)  
> first."
>
>
>
> So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to upgrade,)
> go look in the cvs repository under projects.
>
>
> Vince
>
>>> Thanks.
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:06:50 -0500
> From: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <18807.7658.648830.399278@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
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>
> Trober <trober@trober.com>:
>
>>>  Am I correct in believing "uname" gets its information from the
>>>  kern.version sysctl?
>>
>>  I believe "YES", based on
>>  [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.bin/uname/uname.c
>>
>>  See "= NATIVE_SYSCTL2_GET(ver= sion, CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION)", on
>>  source above.
>>
>>  I hope I've helped.
>
> 	It does.
> 	Next question:
> 	Can someone explain this:
>
> huff@jerusalem>> sysctl kern.version
> kern.version: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 20 10:40:57 EST 2009
>    huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM
> huff@jerusalem>> uname -a
> FreeBSD jerusalem.litteratus.org 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0:  
> Tue Jan 20 10:40:57 EST 2009     huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/ 
> obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM  i386
>
>
> 				Robert huff
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:53:34 -0600
> From: Bobby <bobby@missionaccess.org>
> Subject: Re: kvm switch
> To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID: <200901201853.34513.bobby@missionaccess.org>
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> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 12:38:12 am Chad Perrin wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 08:16:28PM -0800, Kendall Shaw wrote:
>>> Do you have a kvm switch that does mouse and keyboard emulation  
>>> and know
>>> that it works with freebsd?
>>>
>>> I have an iogear kvm switch from around the last time I asked this
>>> question here years back, that has usually worked with linux,  
>>> netbsd,
>>> openbsd, macos and windows. Back then to work with freebsd, each  
>>> time I
>>> switched away and back I would login remotely and issue a command  
>>> to get
>>> freebsd to recognize the keyboard again.
>>>
>>> The newer version of my kvm switch says it has mouse and keyboard
>>> emulation, but I can't get a straight answer out of them if that  
>>> means
>>> the OS can tell that they keyboard has disconnected or not. Do you  
>>> know?
>>> Or do you know of a KVM switch, that does that and is suitable for  
>>> an
>>> impoverished person's home computing needs?
>>>
>>> Also, I read someone's comment on newegg that the mouse emulation  
>>> only
>>> emulates 2 buttons. Do you know if that is true?
>
> I am using a Trendnet TK-207 USB switch and it works very well with  
> my system.
> It switches between FreeBSD and Vista, and I use a zBoard keyboard  
> with my
> mouse plugged in through the keyboard.  I don't have any problems  
> with this
> KVM, it works greaat.
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:17 +0100 (CET)
> From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
> To: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <20090121141701.C26218@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> if portsnap could use proxies - it would be simple. but it cant
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
>
>> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/ 
>>> portsnap
>>>
>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>  I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
>>>> couldn't
>>>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a  
>>>> tool
>>>> can do
>>>> this?
>>>>
>> There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the  
>> portsnap
>> servers, but from the README with it.
>>
>> "this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as  
>> well.
>> There
>> is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
>> but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while updating a
>> single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
>> mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
>> official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org)  
>> first."
>>
>>
>>
>> So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to  
>> upgrade,)
>> go look in the cvs repository under projects.
>>
>>
>> Vince
>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>>
>>>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:23:57 -0200
> From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: "Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121132357.BA62C140A0@karpathos.uni5.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>
>      kern.version is small part only of output uname command   uname  
> command concatane KERN_OSTYPE, KERN_HOSTNAME,
>   KERN_OSRELEASE,&nb   output.
>   I hope I've he   Trober
>   trober@trober.com
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>   ----- Mensagem Original -----
>
>
>   Para: [2]Trober
>
>   Cc: [3]questions@freebsd.org
>
>   Data: Quarta, 21 De Janeiro De 2009
>   Assunto: Re: source of uname informa
>     Trober :
>>>  Am I cor     the
>>> &     >
>>  I believe "YES", ba     >   [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/s 
>>      rc/usr.bin/uname/uname.c
>>
>>  See "= NATIVE_SY     KERN_VERSION)", on
>>  sou     >
>>  I hope I've helped.
>     It do     Next question:
>     Can someone explain this:
>     huff@jerusalem&     kern.version: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0:       
> 2009
>        huff@jerusalem.litterat     us.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ 
> JERUSALEM
>     huff@jerusalem>> uname -a<     7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0- 
> CURRENT     2009     huff@jerusalem.     litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/ 
> src/sys/JERUSALEM  i386
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:34:04 -0500
> From: Jerry <gesbbb@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121083404.5ff1f70c@scorpio>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:58:44 -0500
> Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>>>   I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated
>>>   to the latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9
>>>   recently?
>>
>> 	This was discussed within the last 2-3 weeks, either here or on
>> ports@.  Check the archives.
>> 	If this is important, you can always volunteer to help the
>> Perl-porting team.
>
> I subscribe to the port@ list as well as this one obviously and I do
> not remember seeing that article. I will keep looking.
>
> -- 
> Jerry
> gesbbb@yahoo.com
>
> To stay young requires unceasing cultivation
> of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods.
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:37:22 -0000
> From: "Graeme Dargie" <arab@tangerine-army.co.uk>
> Subject: RE: Motherboard support
> To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
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> Well I spent a little more time having a look in the bios
>
> Here are the results from various settings and a potential solution.
>
> SATA controller in Native IDE mode
> All drives show as IDE at the POST summary screen on boot
>
> In FreeBSD
> SATA Ports 0-3 The disks show
> SATA Ports 4&5 No disks show
>
> Dmesg shows the following
>
> ad4: 476940MB <SAMSUNG HD502IJ 1AA01113> at ata2-master SATA300
> ad6: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata3-master  
> SATA300
> ad8: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata4-master  
> SATA300
> ad10: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata5-master  
> SATA300
>
> SATA Controller in AHCI Mode
> All drives show up on RAID Controller POST summary screen
>
> In FreeBSD
> SATA Ports 0-5 now show disks connected
>
> Dmesg shows the following
>
> ad4: 476940MB <SAMSUNG HD502IJ 1AA01113> at ata2-master SATA300
> ad6: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata3-master  
> SATA300
> ad8: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata4-master  
> SATA300
> ad10: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata5-master  
> SATA300
> ad12: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata6-master  
> SATA300
> ad14: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata7-master  
> SATA300
>
> I have read there have been problems with the realtek 8169/8111c NIC
> card on some systems with under FreeBSD, but I cant seem to find a
> solution to this.
>
> Regards
>
> Graeme
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Da Rock [mailto:rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au]
> Sent: 21 January 2009 10:36
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Motherboard support
>
> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 22:58 +0000, Graeme Dargie wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have built a machine with a Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2, running Freebsd
>> 7.1. For the most part it is fine but I do have two problems
>>
>>
>>
>> 1)       The NIC a realtek 8111C keeps giving watchdog timeout
> messages
>> and the link state changes from up to down and back to up again.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2)       The two hard disks that are attached to the sata raid
>> controller are not seen by Freebsd, the raid card is set to native  
>> ide
>> as I want to use ZFS rather than the onboard raid system and all the
>> drives are present at post. I understand this motherboard uses a
> AMD740
>> chipset and has 740 northbridge and a SB700 southbridge.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas tips pointers would be most welcome
>
> I'm not sure about the NIC, but I don't think the native ide or sata
> control matters in terms of zfs (I could be wrong, and please  
> correct me
> if so experts). The sata controller should recognize the disks with or
> without raid, which freebsd should recognize then install on. I use  
> sata
> in this mode on my systems, and freebsd works fine. Any software raid
> wouldn't care then as long as freebsd itself recognizes the drives.
>
> HTH
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:39:57 +0000
> From: RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121133957.4aec8fef@gumby.homeunix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:06:50 -0500
> Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>
>> 	Can someone explain this:
>>
>> huff@jerusalem>> sysctl kern.version
>> kern.version: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 20 10:40:57 EST 2009
>>    huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM
>> huff@jerusalem>> uname -a
>> FreeBSD jerusalem.litteratus.org 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0:
>>
>
> Do you have any UNAME_* variables set in the environment?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:55:59 +0000
> From: RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121135559.656e37e9@gumby.homeunix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:17 +0100 (CET)
> Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
>
>> if portsnap could use proxies - it would be simple. but it cant
>
>
> It's certainly supposed to, the man page says it does, fetch and
> phttpget are both supposed to support proxies, and there's support in
> the script for seeding the random selection of servers from the proxy
> name.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:57:37 -0500
> From: William Gordon Rutherdale <will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca>
> Subject: Re: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <497729D1.20508@utoronto.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> As a newcomer to freebsd and a long time Perl user, this was one of  
> the
> first things I noticed.  5.8.8 as distributed on freebsd 7.1 is
> extremely old.
>
> -Will
>
> Jerry wrote:
>> I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated to the
>> latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9 recently? It
>> appears that some ports are having problems with this odd version
>> update; i.e., "/news/inn" and possibly "/mail/mailscanner" as  
>> examples.
>>
>> With the latest version of Perl having been released over a year ago,
>> it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to waste the time to  
>> port
>> an older version.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:38:36 -0500 (EST)
> From: "William Bentley" <William@futurecis.com>
> Subject: pam_start error
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am currently running FreeBSD 7.1-Release and have run into a problem
> that I nor google can find a solution too. I get the following  
> errors upon
> boot:
>
> in openpam_load_module(): no /usr/local/lib/pam_ldap.so
> pam_start:system error
>
> I have reinstalled the ldap client and checked all config files. I  
> have
> also compared it to my other systems that are authenticating against  
> the
> ldap server and they are ok. I do not believe this is an ldap issue  
> though
> because I am not even able to login as root at the console. I have
> verified that the pam_ldap.so file is in place and all permissions and
> file sizes are correct.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:00:31 -0200
> From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: "Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121140032.B525F140B1@karpathos.uni5.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Wow! Good question!
>
> Sorry, I had not seen the difference between 7 and 8 in uname and  
> sysctl output. Sorry.
>
> What your /usr/obj/usr/src/include/vers.h file say in:
>
> SCCSSTR
> VERSTR
> RELSTR
> char ostype
> char osrelease
> int osreldate
> kern_ident
>
> Thanks.
>
> Trober
> trober@trober.com
> -
> -
> -
> -
> -
>
>
>
>
> ----- Mensagem Original -----
> De: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Para: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Data: Quarta, 21 De Janeiro De 2009 10:39
> Assunto: Re: source of uname information
>
>>
>> Trober writes:
>>
>>>   kern.version is small part only of output uname command.
>>>
>>>   uname command concatane KERN_OSTYPE, KERN_HOSTNAME,
>>>   KERN_OSRELEASE,&nb= sp;KERN_VERSION (not in this order) to show
>>>   output.
>>
>> 	The question is:
>> 	Why do the sysctls say one thing, and uname another?
>>
>>
>> 					Robert Huff
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:36:38 +0800
> From: Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
> To: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
> Cc: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>,
> 	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<910c4cb0901210636o717956afrbb1af2b2da6df9e@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Thank you. I have checked out the shell script for mirroring. I read  
> the
> notes in the script. My company may have a few user of portsnap. But  
> they
> usually complain about the portsnap mirror on the internet is so  
> slow. My
> company doesn't have a proxy, it seems to be using NAT. So if I  
> change the
> interval of running the mirror script to a few hours, it should not  
> consume
> lots of existing mirrors bandwidth?
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Vincent Hoffman  
> <vince@unsane.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/ 
>>> portsnap
>>>
>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>  I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
>>>> couldn't
>>>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a  
>>>> tool
>>>> can do
>>>> this?
>>>>
>> There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the  
>> portsnap
>> servers, but from the README with it.
>>
>> "this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as  
>> well.
>> There
>> is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
>> but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while updating a
>> single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
>> mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
>> official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org)  
>> first."
>>
>>
>>
>> So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to  
>> upgrade,)
>> go look in the cvs repository under projects.
>>
>>
>> Vince
>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:52:16 +0000
> From: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
> To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <497736A0.4060000@unsane.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> if portsnap could use proxies - it would be simple. but it cant
>>
> The manpage suggests you could,
> "If you wish to use portsnap to keep a large number of machines up to
> date, you may wish to set up a caching HTTP proxy.  Since portsnap
>         uses fetch(1) to download updates, setting the HTTP_PROXY
> environment
>         variable will direct it to fetch updates from the given proxy.
> This
>         is much more efficient than mirroring the files on the  
> portsnap
>         server, since the vast majority of files are not needed by  
> any par-
>         ticular client."
>
> I havent tried this though.
>
> Vince
>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>>> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror
>>>> /var/db/portsnap
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>  I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
>>>>> couldn't
>>>>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a  
>>>>> tool
>>>>> can do
>>>>> this?
>>>>>
>>> There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the  
>>> portsnap
>>> servers, but from the README with it.
>>>
>>> "this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as  
>>> well.
>>> There
>>> is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
>>> but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while  
>>> updating a
>>> single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
>>> mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
>>> official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org)
>>> first."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to  
>>> upgrade,)
>>> go look in the cvs repository under projects.
>>>
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:00:46 -0500
> From: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
> Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
> To: Eduardo Meyer <dudu.meyer@gmail.com>
> Cc: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>, "Patrick M. Hausen"
> 	<hausen@punkt.de>,	stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121150046.GA61468@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:45:28AM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>  
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:36:34PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Patrick M. Hausen  
>>>> <hausen@punkt.de> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:24:27PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>>>> I have a certain disk where da0s1a and da0s1d are inverted. By  
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> reason someone labelled root as 'd' and home as 'a'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I just
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bsdlabel -n da0s1 > savedabel.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Edit savedlabel.txt, switch and restore? (bsdlabel -R da0s1  
>>>>>> savedlabel)
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not simply use bsdlabel -e da0s1?
>>>>
>>>> Because I didnt know about that? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the hint.
>>>>
>>>> However I still have the same doubt. Since basically its the same
>>>> task, Is it safe do relabel this way?
>>>
>>> Hmmm.  Is there stuff written on the disk.  Is root stuff really  
>>> written
>>> on da0s1d and /home stuff really written on da0s1a?   Does the  
>>> system boot
>>> from it OK?
>>>
>>> Or is it just that the mounts are switched.
>>> The mount points are not written in to the label.   That comes after
>>> booting.   If it boots, I wonder if it really is switched on the
>>> partitions or if it is just that the partitions are mounted  
>>> backwards
>>> (probably due to editing /etc/fstab incorrectly).
>>>
>>> ////jerry
>>
>> Hello Patrick, thanks again. Yes, label is switched. Yes there really
>> are stuff on the partitions. No, I dont boot from da0s1d. It is a  
>> disk
>> for migration. But the one who partitioned was fooled by Sysinstall
>> which creates the first label on extra disks as 'd' and the last from
>> the allowed 7 as 'a'. Therefore this server is still booting on the
>> original disk (ad6s1a) and everything else is mounted in the new one
>> (da0s1), everything but root.
>
> What sysinstall does is assume that the 'a' partition will be
> used for a root mount and the 'b' partition will be used for swap.
> Sinc 'c' is reserved, it starts with 'd'.   Then, if you later
> add an 'a' it will end up being later (higher offset) than the 'd'.
>
> I suppose it might confuse a person, but otherwise it is no problem
> and probably would be best to just leave it that way.   You really
> only need to use the mount point anyway most of the time.  So, if
> the mount point addresses the partition you want to with that name,
> then you should have no problem.
>
> You could switch it around using bsdlabel, but I don't think the
> risk would be worth the negligible gain.   But, do as you wish.
>
> ////jerry
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>> --
>>>>> punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe
>>>>> Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100
>>>>> info@punkt.de       http://www.punkt.de
>>>>> Gf: J���������������������������������������������������������������������������������rgen Egeling      AG Mannheim 108285
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ===========
>>>> Eduardo Meyer
>>>> pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com
>>>> profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org 
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ===========
>> Eduardo Meyer
>> pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com
>> profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:11:37 +0100 (CET)
> From: Pieter Donche <Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be>
> Subject: FreeBSD7+KDE3, IPMI module, no mouse input
> To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.63.0901211559550.28548@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Installed FreeBSD7.0-amd on a Supermicro system that has an
> IPMI module (=Remote server management through webbrowser (Java  
> appl.))
>
> After installing Xorg and kde3, when connecting through the IPMI,
> the KDM login manager shows its login window. Keyboard input works,  
> but
> mouse input does not (the mouse pointer moves, but clicking on e.g.
> the 'Menu' button in KDM login window does nothing)
>
> (the IPMI console window shows in the bottom right corner a keyboard
> and mouse icon, indicating that both should be available)
>
> Also, after some time the screen gets black and reports 'No signal'
>
> I can still do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a FreeBSD ASCII console login:
> prompt.
>
> Another Ctrl-ALt-F9 gets me back to KDE3 login window (keyboard but
> no mouse input accepted)
>
> what can be wrong and how to remedy?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:55:51 +0200
> From: alex <alx333@gmail.com>
> Subject: ipfw + bridge + pppoe
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<b010ef770901210655k3c05fdbdh95eca7b8b5469907@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi guys!
> Just wondering if any of you know how to filter traffic  
> (PPPOE,TCP,IP) by
> the means of ipfw, on bridge with FreeBSD 7.x installed, in the case  
> when
> all traffic passing through the bridge is encapsulated in PPPOE.
> Thanks.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:27:50 +0100 (CET)
> From: Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de>
> Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG,
> 	jerrymc@msu.edu,	Eduardo Meyer <dudu.meyer@gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <200901211527.n0LFRoGp031740@lurza.secnetix.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
>> What sysinstall does is assume that the 'a' partition will be
>> used for a root mount and the 'b' partition will be used for swap.
>> Sinc 'c' is reserved, it starts with 'd'.   Then, if you later
>> add an 'a' it will end up being later (higher offset) than the 'd'.
>>
>> I suppose it might confuse a person, but otherwise it is no problem
>> and probably would be best to just leave it that way.
>
> The boot process assumes (by default) that the root file
> system is on the "a" partition.  If it isn't, you won't
> be able to boot from that disk, unless you enter the real
> root partition at the boot0 prompt.
>
> So it is really a good idea to switch the partitions in
> the label before putting that disk into production.
>
> Best regards
>   Oliver
>
> -- 
> Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing  
> b. M.
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> chen, HRB 125758,  Gesch���������������������������������������������������������������������������������ftsf���������������������������������������������������������������������������������hrer: Maik Bachmann,  
> Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart
>
> FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr:  http://www.secnetix.de/bsd
>
> "I learned Java 3 years before Python.  It was my language of
> choice.  It took me two weekends with Python before I was more
> productive with it than with Java." -- Anthony Roberts
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:35:35 -0500
> From: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Cc: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <18807.16583.372061.713345@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Trober writes:
>
>> What your /usr/obj/usr/src/include/vers.h file say in:
>
> 	No such file.
>
> 					Robert Huff
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:13:31 -0200
> From: Patrick Tracanelli <eksffa@freebsdbrasil.com.br>
> Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
> To: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Eduardo Meyer <dudu.meyer@gmail.com>,
> 	questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <49773B9B.4060402@freebsdbrasil.com.br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Jerry McAllister escreveu:
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:45:28AM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jerry McAllister  
>>> <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:36:34PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Patrick M. Hausen <hausen@punkt.de 
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:24:27PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a certain disk where da0s1a and da0s1d are inverted. By  
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> reason someone labelled root as 'd' and home as 'a'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I just
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bsdlabel -n da0s1 > savedabel.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Edit savedlabel.txt, switch and restore? (bsdlabel -R da0s1  
>>>>>>> savedlabel)
>>>>>> Why not simply use bsdlabel -e da0s1?
>>>>> Because I didnt know about that? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the hint.
>>>>>
>>>>> However I still have the same doubt. Since basically its the same
>>>>> task, Is it safe do relabel this way?
>>>> Hmmm.  Is there stuff written on the disk.  Is root stuff really  
>>>> written
>>>> on da0s1d and /home stuff really written on da0s1a?   Does the  
>>>> system boot
>>>> from it OK?
>>>>
>>>> Or is it just that the mounts are switched.
>>>> The mount points are not written in to the label.   That comes  
>>>> after
>>>> booting.   If it boots, I wonder if it really is switched on the
>>>> partitions or if it is just that the partitions are mounted  
>>>> backwards
>>>> (probably due to editing /etc/fstab incorrectly).
>>>>
>>>> ////jerry
>>> Hello Patrick, thanks again. Yes, label is switched. Yes there  
>>> really
>>> are stuff on the partitions. No, I dont boot from da0s1d. It is a  
>>> disk
>>> for migration. But the one who partitioned was fooled by Sysinstall
>>> which creates the first label on extra disks as 'd' and the last  
>>> from
>>> the allowed 7 as 'a'. Therefore this server is still booting on the
>>> original disk (ad6s1a) and everything else is mounted in the new one
>>> (da0s1), everything but root.
>>
>> What sysinstall does is assume that the 'a' partition will be
>> used for a root mount and the 'b' partition will be used for swap.
>> Sinc 'c' is reserved, it starts with 'd'.   Then, if you later
>> add an 'a' it will end up being later (higher offset) than the 'd'.
>>
>> I suppose it might confuse a person, but otherwise it is no problem
>> and probably would be best to just leave it that way.   You really
>> only need to use the mount point anyway most of the time.  So, if
>> the mount point addresses the partition you want to with that name,
>> then you should have no problem.
>>
>> You could switch it around using bsdlabel, but I don't think the
>> risk would be worth the negligible gain.   But, do as you wish.
>>
>> ////jerry
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe
>>>>>> Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100
>>>>>> info@punkt.de       http://www.punkt.de
>>>>>> Gf: J���������������������������������������������������������������������������������rgen Egeling      AG Mannheim 108285
>
> Hello,
>
> Yes, you can do this change anytime you want, since (1) da0s1* are
> unmounted and (2) disk is clean. Therefore I suggest you are in single
> user mode. If you feel unsure, backup the current label scheme with
>
> disklabel da0s1 -n > da0s1.disklabel.bk
>
> You can restore anytime with the Rescue Disk.
>
> Go ahead, no problem.
>
> Sometimes you will really have problem booting from a disk if root is
> not on label 'a'. I believe it can be workarounded, but your will is
> safe, go ahead and switch the labels.
>
> You can always remember the person who did this from sysinstall that
> sysinstall will label as 'a' if the mount point is root (/).
>
> Therefore if someone wants to use sysinstall for labelling in
> production, and wont mount on / since / has the current root, one can
> always fool sysinstall, (C)reating the partition, using / as mpoint  
> and
> mater redefining the (M)ount point to somewhere else, say, to /mnt.
>
> I always relabel this way, never had a problem. TinyBSD sometimes
> relabels this way too, for some PC Engines Wrap boards. Go ahead.
>
> -- 
> Patrick Tracanelli
>
> Tel.: (31) 3516-0800
> 316601@sip.freebsdbrasil.com.br
> http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br
> "Long live Hanin Elias, Kim Deal!"
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:47:08 +0100
> From: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>
> Subject: HTTP proxy which prints HTTP in human readable form
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121154708.GA14011@rebelion.Sisis.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I've to debug the HTTP traffic between Firefox and some kind of file
> management server to nail down a problem in the communication between
> them, perhaps based on the content of the cookies or other HTTP data;
>
> ofc, I could watch the connection with tcpdump, but maybe there is  
> some better
> HTTP-proxy-like tool in the /usr/ports which prints the HTTP in  
> better human
> readable form... any ideas? thx
>
> 	matthias
> -- 
> Matthias Apitz
> Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH
> Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany
> t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211
> e <matthias.apitz@oclc.org> - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/
> b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/
>
> SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen
>> From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion <GabrielleKelley@grungecafe.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 31
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:58:53 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Dave Feustel <dfeustel@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: HTTP proxy which prints HTTP in human readable form
> To: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121155853.D5A0F8FC26@mx1.freebsd.org>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 04:47:08PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've to debug the HTTP traffic between Firefox and some kind of file
>> management server to nail down a problem in the communication between
>> them, perhaps based on the content of the cookies or other HTTP data;
>>
>> ofc, I could watch the connection with tcpdump, but maybe there is  
>> some better
>> HTTP-proxy-like tool in the /usr/ports which prints the HTTP in  
>> better human
>> readable form... any ideas? thx
>>
>> 	matthias
>
> Try FireBug, a FireFox plugin documented in _Web Security Testing
> Cookbook_ a book which I highly recommend. It converted me from
> Konqueror to FireFox in about 30 seconds when I found out about
> NoScript, another Firefox extension.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 32
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:21:29 -0500
> From: Steven Kreuzer <skreuzer@exit2shell.com>
> Subject: Re: HTTP proxy which prints HTTP in human readable form
> To: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <9E235687-8BF4-417E-9CD4-52D317E5B3C9@exit2shell.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've to debug the HTTP traffic between Firefox and some kind of file
>> management server to nail down a problem in the communication between
>> them, perhaps based on the content of the cookies or other HTTP data;
>>
>> ofc, I could watch the connection with tcpdump, but maybe there is
>> some better
>> HTTP-proxy-like tool in the /usr/ports which prints the HTTP in
>> better human
>> readable form... any ideas? thx
>
>
> Take a look at HttpFox, which  monitors and analyzes all incoming and
> outgoing HTTP traffic between the browser and the web servers.
>
> Information available per request includes:
> - Request and response headers
> - Sent and received cookies
> - Querystring parameters
> - POST parameters
> - Response body
>
> Its in ports (www/xpi-httpfox) or you can grab it from
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6647
>
> --
> Steven Kreuzer
> http://www.exit2shell.com/~skreuzer
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:53:49 -1000
> From: Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>
> Subject: Re: Edit user groups
> To: Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com>
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121165348.GA13963@lava.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 09:23:32PM -0700, Tim Judd wrote:
>> Clifton Royston wrote:
>>> Good advice given so far (pw is a good tool, direct editing works)  
>>> but
>>> I'd also suggest you consider installing and using sudo; I always
>>> install it on all of my systems and use it probably 10-20 times as
>>> often as su.
>>>
> ...
>> I think sudo is a false sense of security.  If a user trusts another,
>> and give sudo access, why not give the whole OS to them?
>
>  Among other reasons, because it allows you to partition privileges
> and give access for specific users (or groups of users) to specific
> accounts only, or to execute only a specific set of commands as root  
> or
> another user.  When I was running a department of technical support
> staff and another group of junior administrators, this ability to  
> limit
> and partition powers was a life-saver.
>
>  I think you mistrust sudo because you do not yet understand it as
> well as su (also essential, but a more blunt instrument.)
>
>> Sudo's out there -- don't get me wrong, but you won't catch me dead  
>> with
>> a box with sudo installed.  I think it's a very misleading tool.  And
>> not to say they do -- but what if the devs put in a keygen...do you
>> monitor the sudo source code?
>
>  Rarely, but it's freely available, and thousands if not tens of
> thousands of other programmers and admins have access to it, and do
> check it enough to find the occasional bug.  Same as the source to su,
> or to the OS as a whole; has it never occurred to you there are trust
> issues there as well?
>
>> And if I remember correctly -- the way sudo gets it's work done is a
>> SUID bit to root.
>
>  Dude, how do you think su works?
>
>  -- Clifton
>
> -- 
>    Clifton Royston  --  cliftonr@iandicomputing.com /  
> cliftonr@lava.net
>       President  - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/
> Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting  
> services
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:57:39 +0200
> From: Ghirai <ghirai@ghirai.com>
> Subject: Re: Intel 5100 AGN WiFi
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: Da Rock <rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au>
> Message-ID: <200901211857.39310.ghirai@ghirai.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-15"
>
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 12:41:23 Da Rock wrote:
>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:48 +0200, Ghirai wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> After a quick search it appears that Intel 5100 AGN wifi card is not
>>> supported (at least not in RELEASE?).
>>> If so, are there plans, dev. in progress, etc?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> AFAIK this uses the iwn driver which a group of us is now working on.
>> Backports (testing) exist for 7.1, and there are several references  
>> to
>> them on this list. Use the latest, and post back here with your  
>> results
>> which will help us further the task (/var/log/messages, dmesg, etc).
>>
>> Just to check that this is the driver you need, run a pciconf -lv and
>> post the result back here.
>>
>
> I was shopping for a notebook that has this card, and wanted to make  
> sure.
> I'll post info if i buy it.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:14:49 -1000
> From: Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>
> Subject: Re: Filesystem tunning
> To: Matias Surdi <matiassurdi@gmail.com>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121171447.GB13963@lava.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:01:04PM +0100, Matias Surdi wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there any way to avoid the system going to single user mode when a
>> secondary storage device cannot be mounted?.
>>
>> I mean, if all system filesystems are OK, how can set up a device  
>> with a
>> custom mount point so that when it's tried to mount at boot time and
>> fails doesn't cause the system to be in single user mode?
>>
>> I know that if in fstab I set the last parameter to "0" checking will
>> not be made at boot time, but instead what I want is the check to be
>> run, correct any automatically correctable error, and continue  
>> booting
>> anyway, despite the result of the check.Later a custom script will  
>> check
>> the filesystem and send a mail, for example.
>
> Try this:
>
> Set to "noauto" in /etc/fstab, and add a custom script to run at the
> end of the boot process to check and mount your special device if it's
> OK, and do whatever additional processing you want if not.
>  -- Clifton
>
> -- 
>    Clifton Royston  --  cliftonr@iandicomputing.com /  
> cliftonr@lava.net
>       President  - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/
> Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting  
> services
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:20:07 -0800
> From: "Peter Steele" <psteele@maxiscale.com>
> Subject: Do I need to run netif stop/start if IP is changed?
> To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<2ACA3DE8F9758A48B8BE2C7A847F91F247A4BB@polaris.maxiscale.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> We have systems that upon initial configuration have no IP addresses
> assigned. Their rc.conf entries look like this:
>
>
>
> ifconfig_nfe0="UP"
>
> ifconfig_nfe1="UP"
>
> cloned_interfaces="lagg0"
>
> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport nfe0 laggport nfe1"
>
> defaultrouter="0.0.0.0"
>
>
>
> The user later runs a tool and specifies the IP address to use for a
> given system. This tool modifies ifconfig and default router lines,  
> e.g.
>
>
>
> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport nfe0 laggport nfe1
> 192.168.17.49 netmask 255.255.240.0"
>
> defaultrouter="192.168.16.1"
>
>
>
> and also executes explicit ifconfig and route add commands that match
> the entries in rc.conf.
>
>
>
> The question is, should we also execute a netif stop/start sequence  
> when
> this IP/router information is assigned? Are there other services that
> should also be stopped/restarted when the IP is set? Ideally, we  
> want to
> avoid having to reboot the box to set the IP as we are doing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:33:00 +0100
> From: Frank Staals <frankstaals@gmx.net>
> Subject: Re: Do I need to run netif stop/start if IP is changed?
> To: Peter Steele <psteele@maxiscale.com>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <49775C4C.2010305@gmx.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Peter Steele wrote:
>> We have systems that upon initial configuration have no IP addresses
>> assigned. Their rc.conf entries look like this:
>>
>>
>>
>>
> <snip>
>> and also executes explicit ifconfig and route add commands that match
>> the entries in rc.conf.
>>
>>
>>
>> The question is, should we also execute a netif stop/start sequence  
>> when
>> this IP/router information is assigned? Are there other services that
>> should also be stopped/restarted when the IP is set? Ideally, we  
>> want to
>> avoid having to reboot the box to set the IP as we are doing.
>>
>>
> As far as I know you do not have to, changing interface settings with
> ifconfig should be enough. I used to have a script to switch between  
> LAN
> and WLAN on my laptop which used only ifconfig <ip>, route flush and
> route add default <routerip>.  Only thing that comes to mind that  
> could
> go wrong if daemons are configured to listen on a specifc ip instead  
> of
> (default) configs with :<port>.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- 
>
> - Frank
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:43:58 +0100 (CET)
> From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD7+KDE3, IPMI module, no mouse input
> To: Pieter Donche <Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be>
> Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID: <20090121184341.S26924@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>> IPMI module (=Remote server management through webbrowser (Java  
>> appl.))
>>
>> After installing Xorg and kde3, when connecting through the IPMI,
>> the KDM login manager shows its login window. Keyboard input works,  
>> but mouse
>> input does not (the mouse pointer moves, but clicking on e.g.
>> the 'Menu' button in KDM login window does nothing)
>>
>> (the IPMI console window shows in the bottom right corner a keyboard
>> and mouse icon, indicating that both should be available)
>>
>> Also, after some time the screen gets black and reports 'No signal'
>>
>> I can still do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a FreeBSD ASCII console login:
>> prompt.
>>
>> Another Ctrl-ALt-F9 gets me back to KDE3 login window (keyboard but
>> no mouse input accepted)
>>
>> what can be wrong and how to remedy?
>
> use normal unix tools for remote administration not IPMI
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:25:02 +0100
> From: Matias Surdi <matiassurdi@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Filesystem tunning
> To: Matias Surdi <matiassurdi@gmail.com>,
> 	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<720ff42b0901210925h13871dd4kae557680576741a2@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> This should work. I'll try it.
>
> Thanks for the idea
>
> 2009/1/21 Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>:
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:01:04PM +0100, Matias Surdi wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there any way to avoid the system going to single user mode  
>>> when a
>>> secondary storage device cannot be mounted?.
>>>
>>> I mean, if all system filesystems are OK, how can set up a device  
>>> with a
>>> custom mount point so that when it's tried to mount at boot time and
>>> fails doesn't cause the system to be in single user mode?
>>>
>>> I know that if in fstab I set the last parameter to "0" checking  
>>> will
>>> not be made at boot time, but instead what I want is the check to be
>>> run, correct any automatically correctable error, and continue  
>>> booting
>>> anyway, despite the result of the check.Later a custom script will  
>>> check
>>> the filesystem and send a mail, for example.
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> Set to "noauto" in /etc/fstab, and add a custom script to run at the
>> end of the boot process to check and mount your special device if  
>> it's
>> OK, and do whatever additional processing you want if not.
>> -- Clifton
>>
>> --
>>   Clifton Royston  --  cliftonr@iandicomputing.com /  
>> cliftonr@lava.net
>>      President  - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/
>> Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting  
>> services
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Matias Emanuel Surdi.
> http://lounicoquefaltaba.com.ar
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:01:43 -0700
> From: Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.
> To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID: <20090121180143.GA11062@kokopelli.hydra>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:50:55AM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
>>
>> And, unfortunately, that doesn't help. I think the procedure  
>> described
>> by George Davidovich is your best bet.
>
> I haven't used Thunderbird in a very long time, but . . . can't you
> import emails from OE to Thunderbird on the MS Windows system, then  
> move
> them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import  
> them to
> Thunderbird there?
>
> -- 
> Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
> Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: "It is a common failing of man not to take
> account of tempests during fair weather."
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>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:37:20 -0800
> From: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.
> To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<a9f4a3860901211037n1e75a19fl85187aa7ead9656@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>  
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:50:55AM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
>>>
>>> And, unfortunately, that doesn't help. I think the procedure  
>>> described
>>> by George Davidovich is your best bet.
>>
>> I haven't used Thunderbird in a very long time, but . . . can't you
>> import emails from OE to Thunderbird on the MS Windows system, then  
>> move
>> them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import  
>> them to
>> Thunderbird there?
>>
>> --
>> Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
>> Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: "It is a common failing of man not to take
>> account of tempests during fair weather."
>
> I don't know. I haven't used OE in over 10 years.
>
> Kurt
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:47:41 -0700
> From: Steve Franks <bahamasfranks@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Flash for FreeBSD -> GNOME -> Firefox
> To: Grant Peel <gpeel@thenetnow.com>
> Cc: herbert langhans <herbert.raimund@gmx.net>,
> 	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<539c60b90901211047l7efceadeld7896ffcf0c83a4b@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM, herbert langhans
> <herbert.raimund@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Hi Grant,
>> here is a full description how to do that:
>> http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl
>
> The info on swfdec on this page appears to be outdated - the swfdec
> homepage quotes a release on 12/21/08, and purportedly works with
> youtube; I'm testing it now myself...
>
> Steve
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:51:45 -0800
> From: pete wright <nomadlogic@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Edit user groups
> To: Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com>
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Akenner <SlackWareWolf@comcast.net>,
> 	Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>
> Message-ID:
> 	<57d710000901211051u12ad4ca6ifc5b96046953c4dd@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> <sorry OT>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> and I recommend against sudo because it's very design is a man-in- 
>> the-middle
>> type of scenario, and one typo by the sudo devs can possibly make a  
>> mess out
>> of things.
>>
>> I think sudo makes a lazy admin -- too easy to just run in and hit
>> something.
>>
>> I think sudo is a false sense of security.  If a user trusts  
>> another, and
>> give sudo access, why not give the whole OS to them?
>>
>> Sudo's out there -- don't get me wrong, but you won't catch me dead  
>> with a
>> box with sudo installed.  I think it's a very misleading tool.  And  
>> not to
>> say they do -- but what if the devs put in a keygen...do you  
>> monitor the
>> sudo source code?
>>
>> And if I remember correctly -- the way sudo gets it's work done is  
>> a SUID
>> bit to root.  Those are the devil's eggs that hatch and just cause  
>> havoc.  A
>> rogue CGI calling sudo to do something on the website, buffer  
>> overflow (with
>> php!) and you've gotten rooted.
>>
>> No, no -- I hate sudo for it's own doing.  It's going to eat itself  
>> alive.
>>
>> </rant>  No flames please.
>
> not a flame, but a point of order - you can grant sudo privs to a user
> that does not automatically give them full root/wheel privs.  i recon
> this is something that most admins have had to come across when
> working in a multiuser environment.
>
> what sudo also does provides you is:
> 1) an audit trail of who did what, when with said escalated privs
> 2) a way to give non-wheel users access to run specific commands that
> may require escalted privs
>
> so i'm not really sure why one would want to throw out the baby with
> the bath water, it's just another layer on the onion - and much better
> than giving everyone root access, or requiring the one or two trusted
> users in wheel to executed any program that may require escalated
> privs (rndc reload, apachectl reload come to mind immediately).
>
> -p
>
> -- 
> ~~o0OO0o~~
> Pete Wright
> www.nycbug.org
> NYC's *BSD User Group
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:20:20 -0800
> From: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Firefox and Java?
> To: FreeBSD Questions <questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<a9f4a3860901211120v1c48e9f9kd282776751e3a128@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> More info:
>
> grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep java
> javavmwrapper-2.3.2 Wrapper script for various Java Virtual Machines
> grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep jdk
> diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_3 Java Development Kit 1.6.0_07.02
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Can't seem to get this working - trying to use a java client for our
>> SSL VPN appliance, and am getting told by the browser that Java isn't
>> enabled.
>>
>> I see "/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so", so
>> according to the googling I've been doing that's correct. Any  
>> thoughts
>> on how to proceed?
>>
>> grimsqueaker-bsd# uname -a
>> FreeBSD grimsqueaker-bsd.pigfarm.org 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE  
>> #7:
>> Sun Jan 11 21:12:44 PST 2009     root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>> amd64
>>
>> grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep firefox
>> firefox-3.0.5_1,1   Web browser based on the browser portion of  
>> Mozilla
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:11:58 -0800
> From: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
> Subject: Firefox and Java?
> To: FreeBSD Questions <questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<a9f4a3860901211111r75279e74k1a103f8c8581a7e6@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Can't seem to get this working - trying to use a java client for our
> SSL VPN appliance, and am getting told by the browser that Java isn't
> enabled.
>
> I see "/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so", so
> according to the googling I've been doing that's correct. Any thoughts
> on how to proceed?
>
> grimsqueaker-bsd# uname -a
> FreeBSD grimsqueaker-bsd.pigfarm.org 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #7:
> Sun Jan 11 21:12:44 PST 2009     root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> amd64
>
> grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep firefox
> firefox-3.0.5_1,1   Web browser based on the browser portion of  
> Mozilla
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:44:44 -0500
> From: FreeBSD <freebsd@optiksecurite.com>
> Subject: Re: Advice for dump/restore over SSH
> To: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
> Cc: Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>,	"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"
> 	<freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID: <49777B2C.70901@optiksecurite.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Odhiambo Washington a ������������������������������������������������������crit :
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl
>> <mailto:rsmith@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>
>>    On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 05:43:56PM -0500, Freebsd wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds pretty interesting to me but i couldn't test right now. As nc
>>> is in /usr/bin how will i not face the same problem as with ssh? Can
>>> you point me to a freebsd live cd that has nc included?
>>
>>    The 7.0-RELEASE livefs CD that I had lying around has nc on it.  
>> As does
>>    the 6.1-RELEASE disc 1 that I also found. So I think all install/ 
>> lifefs
>>    images have nc. I suggest that you get e.g. 7.1-RELEASE-i386- 
>> livefs.iso
>>    or 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso (depending on your hardware
>>    architecture) from your nearest ftp mirror.
>>
>>
>> Hi Roland,
>>
>> While still on this topic...
>> Now that FreeBSD went DVD, does one still need the
>> X.Y-RELEASE-i386{amd64}-livefs.iso still, or the DVD had a complete
>> livefs functionality as well?
>
> It worked perfectly with the DVD of 7.1-RELEASE for i386.
>
> Thanks a lot Roland for your precises answers. You're saving me a  
> lot of
> time.
>
> Martin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:35:06 +0200
> From: Valdis Ziedi?? <valdis.ziedins@gmail.com>
> Subject: change root pasword
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
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> hi,
> i'm new your product user! my first admin leave new server with  
> freebsd!
> someone change root pasword can you help me step by step change this
> pasword! i'll be thankfull!
>
> i'm now studing your product but if you can help me it would be nice!
>
> best regart valdis
>
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:03:04 -0500
> From: APseudoUtopia <apseudoutopia@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: change root pasword
> To: Valdis Ziedi?? <valdis.ziedins@gmail.com>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Valdis Ziedi������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
> <valdis.ziedins@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi,
>> i'm new your product user! my first admin leave new server with  
>> freebsd!
>> someone change root pasword can you help me step by step change this
>> pasword! i'll be thankfull!
>>
>> i'm now studing your product but if you can help me it would be nice!
>>
>> best regart valdis
>> _______________________________________________
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>
> man passwd
>
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:08:16 +0200
> From: KES <kes-kes@yandex.ru>
> Subject: 'top' shows wrong CPU usage
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <571280828.20090121220816@yandex.ru>
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> Hello, Freebsd-questions.
>
> top shows often nonsense in CPU usage of a process, but totals are OK
> and it seems that WCPU and CPU has no differences in results
>
> top -S
> last pid: 66182;  load averages:  2.51,  2.15,  2.03             up  
> 10+23:40:14  22:05:41
> 798 processes: 6 running, 772 sleeping, 1 zombie, 18 waiting, 1 lock
> CPU:  4.4% user,  0.0% nice, 14.8% system, 16.7% interrupt, 64.0% idle
> Mem: 264M Active, 60M Inact, 147M Wired, 6968K Cache, 60M Buf, 9888K  
> Free
> Swap: 2048M Total, 1903M Used, 145M Free, 92% Inuse
>
>  PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU  
> COMMAND
>   11 root          1 171 ki31     0K     8K RUN    104.1H 88.48%  
> idle: cpu0
> 66178 firebird      1  49    0 23120K  5828K select   0:00  1.37%  
> fb_inet_server
> 66159 firebird      1  48    0 23120K  5760K select   0:01  1.17%  
> fb_inet_server
> 5156 root          1  44    0  9024K   544K select  57:39  0.68% snmpd
> 66182 root          1  44    0  4556K  2608K RUN      0:00  0.68% top
> 66147 root          1   8    0  3124K   840K nanslp   0:00  0.59%  
> monitord
> 66138 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5736K select   0:01  0.49%  
> fb_inet_server
> 75745 www           1  44    0 24628K  9500K select   5:05  0.29%  
> python2.5
> 66180 firebird      1  46    0 23120K  5852K select   0:00  0.10%  
> fb_inet_server
>
>
> #top -S -C
> last pid: 66209;  load averages:  2.13,  2.10,  2.02             up  
> 10+23:41:07  22:06:34
> 814 processes: 6 running, 788 sleeping, 1 zombie, 18 waiting, 1 lock
> CPU:  9.3% user,  0.0% nice, 13.4% system, 12.8% interrupt, 64.5% idle
> Mem: 269M Active, 56M Inact, 148M Wired, 12M Cache, 60M Buf, 3700K  
> Free
> Swap: 2048M Total, 1903M Used, 145M Free, 92% Inuse
>
>  PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    TIME    CPU  
> COMMAND
>   11 root          1 171 ki31     0K     8K RUN    104.1H 92.29%  
> idle: cpu0
> 66138 firebird      1  49    0 23120K  5556K select   0:01  1.46%  
> fb_inet_server
> 66180 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5612K select   0:01  0.59%  
> fb_inet_server
> 66209 root          1  44    0  4556K  2556K RUN      0:00  0.59% top
> 66179 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5624K select   0:01  0.49%  
> fb_inet_server
> 5156 root          1  44    0  9024K   544K select  57:39  0.39% snmpd
> 66147 root          1   8    0  3124K   840K nanslp   0:01  0.39%  
> monitord
> 66178 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5584K select   0:01  0.20%  
> fb_inet_server
>   12 root          1 -44    -     0K     8K WAIT   126.8H  0.00%  
> swi1: net
>   42 root          1 -68    -     0K     8K -      219:53  0.00%  
> dummynet
>
> -- 
> KES                          mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru
>
>
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