From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 00:03:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6667D16A434 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79C143D46 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:03:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id l1so712160nzf for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:03:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mpAwvWEtL9jBTFqB3dGoaC0UVe6+2cRaNKlN4L7zKeV19aka3ai0FTjYL30WtqiDqa+ZsepOK8z/S+IAt75H0CYTMwgQIxZ3mITJmPpTNk4rQ87Swy/IKYY912XwuBaDXopQt6h1R94awBomMaixEdzPblb4PbsyDwnSgkBv4fo= Received: by 10.65.61.3 with SMTP id o3mr812653qbk; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.107.14 with HTTP; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260605131703q55a99762ka89b05ff02dba765@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:03:34 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Alex Johnson" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD in the DS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:03:35 -0000 On 14/05/06, Alex Johnson wrote: > > I am aware that FreeBSD's claim to fame is that it has been ported to > "anything with a processor". I think you may be thinking of NetBSD - www.netbsd.org. That being said, your question may be relevant to this list. What architecture, exactly, is = a "DS"? Jeff. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 00:05:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7C116A401 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72DF43D46 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:05:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from foo.antimatter.net (cpe-72-132-246-89.san.res.rr.com [72.132.246.89]) (authenticated bits=0) by cobalt.antimatter.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4E05JXL005992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 13 May 2006 17:05:32 -0700 X-MailKey: purple frogs are falling from the sky Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060513170345.050bec08@antimatter.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 17:05:09 -0700 To: "Alex Johnson" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD in the DS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:05:50 -0000 At 04:52 PM 5/13/2006, Alex Johnson wrote: >I am aware that FreeBSD's claim to fame is that it has been ported to >"anything with a processor". I think you're thinking of NetBSD, not FreeBSD. -Glenn >So, I am wondering if it'd be possible to >get my hands on a method for modding the DS's boot EPROM to load a >FreeBSD operating system, and with it a means for storing or >retrieving data along the lines of a GBA cart which runs to an ATAPI >ribbon cable or the like. I could easily see a touch-screen keyboard >interface, with most programs displayed on the other screen. If such a >thing is possible, please help me find one. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 00:06:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2452416A401; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:06:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8E643D45; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:06:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5BC290C20; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:06:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 48674-07; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:06:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-7-151-244.eastlink.ca [71.7.151.244]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0B7290C1F; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:06:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4A0985DA8D; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:06:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E755C6B0; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:06:12 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 21:06:12 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Garance A Drosihn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060513210114.U1279@ganymede.hub.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: fbsd@a1poweruser.com, ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:06:10 -0000 On Sat, 13 May 2006, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 2:28 PM -0400 5/13/06, fbsd wrote: >> To all question list readers; >> >> Now with 14576 ports in the collection where do you >> draw the line that its too large to be downloading >> the whole collection when you just use 10 or 20 of >> them? > > This is a good question. For all those people who want > to roll their eyes and ignore this question, please > answer it. Where *DO* you draw the line? Obviously it's > not at 10,000 ports. Will it be 20,000? 50,000? How > many programs exist? Will every single program known to > man eventually be in the ports collection? How hopeless > is that? And if not, then "Where do you draw the line?". Why draw a line? Why not just improve installing from ports so that you don't have to download the whole ports collection to do so? For those with 'always on' internet connections, this should be *too* difficult ... all you'd need to do is: download ports-base, which would have to include INDEX type: make fetch-postfix and let the make system be smart enough to know to pull down mail/postfix ... something like a 'fetch' of a postfix.tar.gz tarball from the closest ftp server, untar it in /usr/ports/mail/postfix, and that "seeds" your ports tree ... go into mail/postfix and type 'make install' ... have the make system smart enough that if a dependency isn't found, first thing it does is grabs down that dependency to make it, recursively ... Now, your /usr/ports will only contain those "ports" that you actually use ... a 'self-learning ports tree', of sources ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 00:15:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C453516A411 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from lon-mail-3.gradwell.net (lon-mail-3.gradwell.net [193.111.201.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1C343D79 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:15:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from 84-12-167-7.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk ([84.12.167.7] helo=[192.168.1.4] country=GB ident=bds$pop3&waywood*co$uk) by lon-mail-3.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.217) id 446676a7.117ac.27 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:15:35 +0100 (envelope-sender ) Message-ID: <44667689.1040504@waywood.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:15:05 +0100 From: Barnaby Scott User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44662536.4080700@waywood.co.uk> <20060513204032.GA51338@catflap.slightlystrange.org> <20060513172622.F3A7.GERARD@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20060513172622.F3A7.GERARD@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: very slow boot (newbie) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:15:46 -0000 Gerard Seibert wrote: > Daniel Bye wrote: > >> On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 07:28:06PM +0100, Barnaby Scott wrote: >>> It turns out it was sendmail causing the delay, so now my /etc/rc.comf >>> reads: >>> >>> sendmail_enable="NONE" >> This is fine, but according to rc.sendmail(8) `NONE' is deprecated and >> will be removed in a future release (but, to be honest, it's been going >> to be removed in a future release for quite some time now... ;-). It's >> more typing, but the preferred way to disable sendmail these days is >> this: >> >> sendmail_enable="NO" >> sendmail_submit_enable="NO" >> sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" >> sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" >> >> This prevents any of the various sendmail daemons from starting. > > In that case, what handles the delivery of mail locally? At the moment I have the slightly perverse, but workable, situation whereby we send internal mail via the internet - it all goes through my hosting company's SMTP servers. In these days of always-on conections it is not as stupid as it sounds, and they offer such a good service that before I get to grips with FreeBSD myself, it suits me very well. (BTW they use FreeBSD, and deserve any bigging-up going: www.gradwell.com) >>> ...it does not cure the problem for me if I decide that I do want >>> sendmail! I could cross that bridge when I come to it, but I would >>> prefer to gain some insight here if anyone can bear any more on this topic. >> I would suggest you look at ssmtp in the ports. It is a very simple >> mail forwarding daemon, that you configure with the IP address of another, >> full MTA to which ssmtp will send all your outgoing messages. Your ISP >> probably runs a suitable server for their customers' use. It means you >> won't have to worry about your IP address and DNS resolution and all the >> other things that go with running a full MTA, like sendmail, exim or >> postfix. >> >>> Adding >>> 127.0.0.1 frankbruno >>> to /etc/hosts did not cure the problem. Could that be because the lookup >>> that causes the delay is a reverse one? If so, it would be trying to >>> find a name for 192.168.0.4 (I think that's the one I have been getting >>> recently) which is still not in hosts. >> No, it wouldn't help at all - you should return that entry to localhost. >> >>> I would rather not mess with the IP allocation if possible - having it >>> automatic is much more useful and means I cannot create condradictory >>> records in different places. >> Fair enough. KDK's suggestion of using a wrapper script will certainly >> get you round this if you decide you need/want to use a more full- >> featured MTA. >> >> Dan >> >> -- >> Daniel Bye > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 00:17:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A9516A45A for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sixthflyingman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4E543D6E for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:17:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sixthflyingman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id e30so826834pya for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:17:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=F/wkgyVKUQaFkuvVlMVpmbVJ158r8KFyKQkR9IdRnsuGly9HqKetnOe3fcelj0lsKsSDVipP/aXqIxqqijpd+lS3gP2BVXbibFmZJ7O+Thvio/bHYC3VlQSXF18kdSdA00RfIX7tD2NxtmOv0L9BFCYgCzsh3IFjeudc6tvFYUg= Received: by 10.35.77.18 with SMTP id e18mr870007pyl; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.63.15 with HTTP; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 17:17:53 -0700 From: "Alex Johnson" To: "Jeff Rollin" In-Reply-To: <8a0028260605131703q55a99762ka89b05ff02dba765@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <8a0028260605131703q55a99762ka89b05ff02dba765@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD in the DS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:17:56 -0000 Aah, I may well be thinking of NetBSD. However, I'm not much in the way of hardware, so I do not know what architecture the DS is. But for someone with a little more experience than I I'm sure it will be easy to find out, the system itself is available used for only around $75.00 US. Any used game store just ask for a Nintendo DS - if someone on the list doesn't already own one, I don't really want to ask people to buy things they'd never use. On 5/13/06, Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 14/05/06, Alex Johnson wrote: > > > > I am aware that FreeBSD's claim to fame is that it has been ported to > > "anything with a processor". > > > I think you may be thinking of NetBSD - www.netbsd.org. That being said, > your question may be relevant to this list. What architecture, exactly, i= s > a > "DS"? > > Jeff. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 00:32:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB5616A408; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (core6.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FA443D46; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:32:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from vader ([212.135.219.179]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50002555710.msg; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:31:26 +0100 Message-ID: <002101c676ed$bd1f2720$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" , "Garance A Drosihn" References: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:31:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Sun, 14 May 2006 01:31:26 +0100 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.179 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Sun, 14 May 2006 01:31:26 +0100 Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:32:36 -0000 Garance A Drosihn wrote: > Unfortunately, this is the wrong solution. I'm sure > you will love this *IFF* (that means "if and ONLY if") > all of *YOUR* ports are in that category of important > ports. We have 15,000 ports because every single one > of those ports has some users who think that specific > port is important. While I'm sure that some ports > will be willing to be in the "second tier" category, > I suspect you'll still have thousands of ports with > hundreds of thousands of users who will be personally > insulted if refused to include their > favorite port in the "important" category. I doubt > you will find anyone who wants to volunteer for the > role of , because that is certainly the > only name which will be used to describe whoever > chooses which ports are in the special category. How about implement a system where by ports register their usage to a central server. This will give us some very useful stats about port usage and after some time this is examind and all ports whos usage falls under a given measure ( to be decided again by stats ) said port is moved to a secondary port group. We could also use this info to prune ports not getting any use at all. In addition to that a method of syncing ports indivitually might be an alternative way to go. That way instead of syncing the many thousands of ports to compile up the latest version of XXX you would only have to download the port you wanted and any dependencies. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 00:35:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B7916A4E7 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD1343D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:35:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 34so662368nzf for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:35:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AVaeZ1SQxvKzoYQS4VgSnHj/LrslHSEHSo4SrcGou7n1WiNS21oBcVcw5kGNfJjzn5rcuENxAX/MbxP968Z7xflyF9gg/rZajotVRnyoWMSb+RK5Ph6FzcZMYkyx3JnVc8x0JzCOJwkXp5E2tnHHoceqKkGf2HEQ45cg63zBBpA= Received: by 10.65.52.7 with SMTP id e7mr822224qbk; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.107.14 with HTTP; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260605131735x5080add8tfa2caaafb5e97b91@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:35:19 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Alex Johnson" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8a0028260605131703q55a99762ka89b05ff02dba765@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD in the DS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:35:21 -0000 > > $75.00 US. Any used game store just ask for a Nintendo DS - if someone > on the list doesn't already own one, I don't really want to ask people > to buy things they'd never use. Ah, a NINTENDO DS! I was thinking along the lines of an Alpha DS - from HP, via Compaq, via DEC, which FBSD might well have supported as Alpha (until very recently) was a supported architecture. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 00:38:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA54116A44D for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sixthflyingman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70ECB43D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:38:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sixthflyingman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id e30so828390pya for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:38:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OSvOf3EvMNkXfrBN7SqEDsV3KRI/L75MtNdU1YCDfk5bRKPC6edrtdwgV3p46EvJltW3jbTULVYeI0DequZML4DlnuyGyvx2wJANvAyha2gSMKPulwGVHSkcgM8S0shkCBxCHp/daCEBrUmeIcjJ6cF+AXs7eJPyFJS8n0ltwyA= Received: by 10.35.101.9 with SMTP id d9mr1419732pym; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.63.15 with HTTP; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 17:38:09 -0700 From: "Alex Johnson" To: "Jeff Rollin" In-Reply-To: <8a0028260605131735x5080add8tfa2caaafb5e97b91@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <8a0028260605131703q55a99762ka89b05ff02dba765@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605131735x5080add8tfa2caaafb5e97b91@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD in the DS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:38:11 -0000 Yes, the Nintendo kind. It seems more than capable, technologically, of supporting a REAL OS such as FreeBSD, something beyond its standard EPROM startup screen, to me. Is that a supported architecture? And if not, is NetBSD free or open source? On 5/13/06, Jeff Rollin wrote: > > > > $75.00 US. Any used game store just ask for a Nintendo DS - if someone > > on the list doesn't already own one, I don't really want to ask people > > to buy things they'd never use. > > > Ah, a NINTENDO DS! I was thinking along the lines of an Alpha DS - from H= P, > via Compaq, via DEC, which FBSD might well have supported as Alpha (until > very recently) was a supported architecture. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 00:50:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9FC16A404 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF3A43D46 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:50:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id l1so715528nzf for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:49:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rBBejhMlouD2PyiGV4iDJMfnjf3NuBAcHZYLXwyagN0SGTw1hh/pEusfXbsw2e260Ga6qLfP/fupLE3jnXddH1kZ3OSgJBFcruXFZOEDN7C3HiZ9g8qN/t5xwahGPq0LA57xixL4gDwKZd9iqLXE0TWdQ7SkkjbNu7+EwstgoHE= Received: by 10.65.61.3 with SMTP id o3mr823529qbk; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.107.14 with HTTP; Sat, 13 May 2006 17:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260605131749s33f5fc25k9ac310e2f2e733e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:49:58 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Alex Johnson" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8a0028260605131703q55a99762ka89b05ff02dba765@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605131735x5080add8tfa2caaafb5e97b91@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD in the DS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:50:05 -0000 On 14/05/06, Alex Johnson wrote: > > Yes, the Nintendo kind. It seems more than capable, technologically, > of supporting a REAL OS such as FreeBSD, something beyond its standard > EPROM startup screen, to me. Is that a supported architecture? And if > not, is NetBSD free or open source? There is (definitely) a port of Linux to the NDS, and possibly one of NetBSD. I don't think a port of FreeBSD to the platform is on the cards, though perhaps one of the devs can correct me on this? The Linux port appears to be at an early stage; I don't know the status of the NetBSD port. However, iirc the NDS is pretty new, so I wouldn't expect to be able to run Opera on it just yet. AFAIK, all BSDs (or at least all the ones you would probably be interested in) are open source software. A google search on "Linux Nintendo DS" or a question posted to the netbsd mailing lists (on the site I posted in my early email) will be more fruitfu= l than more questions on this list, I suspect. Good luck with it! Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 01:06:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB1E16A400 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sixthflyingman@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0AD43D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:06:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sixthflyingman@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 28so264370hug for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 18:06:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NRbC9aMMX2P0PB8wg2p3yM0IW6iCip4elq5cj+jiwqdTBFmNObcEdtn3BavbRvCI3b/gvkaTqLRijjM64UTfYtf/NwnvdnRy1PGWL5O6/Q9vWunMki6mkrIjKczsKO4F6u2TNs+lYqcvY8B9s69kJiAVFN5KwvGBU42KK1OlZa4= Received: by 10.35.29.6 with SMTP id g6mr822797pyj; Sat, 13 May 2006 18:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.63.15 with HTTP; Sat, 13 May 2006 18:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:00:05 -0700 From: "Alex Johnson" To: "Jeff Rollin" In-Reply-To: <8a0028260605131749s33f5fc25k9ac310e2f2e733e1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <8a0028260605131703q55a99762ka89b05ff02dba765@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605131735x5080add8tfa2caaafb5e97b91@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605131749s33f5fc25k9ac310e2f2e733e1@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD in the DS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:06:37 -0000 Alright. That's all I needed to know, thanks! On 5/13/06, Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 14/05/06, Alex Johnson wrote: > > > > Yes, the Nintendo kind. It seems more than capable, technologically, > > of supporting a REAL OS such as FreeBSD, something beyond its standard > > EPROM startup screen, to me. Is that a supported architecture? And if > > not, is NetBSD free or open source? > > > There is (definitely) a port of Linux to the NDS, and possibly one of > NetBSD. I don't think a port of FreeBSD to the platform is on the cards, > though perhaps one of the devs can correct me on this? > > The Linux port appears to be at an early stage; I don't know the status o= f > the NetBSD port. However, iirc the NDS is pretty new, so I wouldn't expec= t > to be able to run Opera on it just yet. > > AFAIK, all BSDs (or at least all the ones you would probably be intereste= d > in) are open source software. > > A google search on "Linux Nintendo DS" or a question posted to the netbsd > mailing lists (on the site I posted in my early email) will be more > fruitful > than more questions on this list, I suspect. > > Good luck with it! > > Jeff > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 01:34:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F4316A400 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from javier@skyhawk.kjsl.com) Received: from skyhawk.kjsl.com (skyhawk.kjsl.com [69.36.241.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810C043D48 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:34:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from javier@skyhawk.kjsl.com) Received: by skyhawk.kjsl.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 78F15B8AE1; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 21:34:16 -0400 From: Javier Henderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060514013416.GD13781@skyhawk.kjsl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: FreeBSD 6.x problems with IDE drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:34:16 -0000 Greetings, I've a motherboard and disk drive that have been running on older versions of FreeBSD for quite a while, reliably. Recently, I moved to FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE (and lately to 6.1-RELEASE, but it didn't help), and the system periodically shows: > ad4: FAILURE - device detached This is likely to happen under heavy I/O load (the machine serves a few dozen virtual websites, averaging 15 Mb/s sustained). Then the machine will eventually reboot. The motherboard is an MSI with an AMD 1.3 GHz CPU and 1.25GB of RAM, it has two IDE controllers, a VIA 8235, and a Promise (I can't access the machine right now to get the exact model number). The problem happens the same with either controller. I tried both UDMA100 and PIO4 modes, no difference. SMART reports a healthy drive, and as mentioned before, it didn't have problems with older versions of FreeBSD (5.4-RELEASE to be precise) and under similarly heavy load. The IDE cable was replaced, just in case, but again, no difference. Any ideas? -jav From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 02:13:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3319716A424 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DE643D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:13:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id e30so836524pya for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 19:13:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=owH5rWN61NVc4+ZwQkq5mebngykhITwzG4FamiS/qIyNe+Og7WicF3ASS4YVeJB6b8CeWg7eLD+7lFj0aWd2nKGqVa0c/oHejsGMKQ3s4qT0zLcvf3amI1eZXgnTchq/F4cEsAWQdCQ/GXtkM4wJ2gulzNGT6Iz7BzA766r+7D8= Received: by 10.35.84.12 with SMTP id m12mr1467892pyl; Sat, 13 May 2006 19:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.13.3 with HTTP; Sat, 13 May 2006 19:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:13:02 -0400 From: "David Stanford" To: "Aren Olvalde Tyr" In-Reply-To: <200605132330.08793.aren.tyr@gawab.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000301c676b3$9f398b90$6603a8c0@zeus> <200605132330.08793.aren.tyr@gawab.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cvsup verses Portsnap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 02:13:07 -0000 On 5/13/06, Aren Olvalde Tyr wrote: > > On Saturday 13 May 2006 18:35, Tom Moore wrote: > > Hi guys. > > Which program is best for retrieving and keeping the ports tree up to > date? > > What are some pros and cons of each approach? > > Is one method better than the other? > > Both systems are very efficient and work extremely well, so you won't go > too > far wrong with either. However, I believe Portsnap has the edge and uses > less > bandwidth. > > Keeping your Ports tree up to date with Portsnap is as simple as > > #portsnap fetch && portsnap update Or as of 6.0-RELEASE, just: # portsnap fetch update ;) Assuming, of course, you've already extracted the tree... Aren. -David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 10 15:09:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3848E16A422 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 15:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@owl.midgard.homeip.net) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8453243D4C for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 15:09:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erikt@owl.midgard.homeip.net) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (83.253.29.241) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.072.1) id 4460A1840005F0B9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 17:09:36 +0200 Received: (qmail 59056 invoked from network); 10 May 2006 17:09:35 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with SMTP; 10 May 2006 17:09:35 +0200 Received: (qmail 53304 invoked by uid 1001); 10 May 2006 17:09:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 17:09:35 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: fbsd Message-ID: <20060510150935.GA53121@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: fbsd , Jerry McAllister , Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <200605101324.k4ADOf5s015995@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 May 2006 02:23:57 +0000 Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Beech Rintoul , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 15:09:41 -0000 On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 09:59:59AM -0400, fbsd wrote: > The point being it was not announced on the questions list. Why should it be? This is not the place for announcments and never has been. This list is for asking questions about FreeBSD and answering those questions. Announcments can be expected to appear on the announce@freebsd.org list, which is exactly where the logo contest was announced. There are several other lists hosted at freebsd.org. If you think all important discussions happen on questions@ then you are not only badly mistaken, but will also miss most discussions. > The point being the logo affects all the users just not the core > committers. Only if they choose to let it do so. > > Quite trying to make a non-subject out of something that effects us > all. > The official logo represents all of us users to the world as a > whole. No, the logo is supposed to represent FreeBSD, not the users thereof. > > Cant you get that through your collectives heads. Can't you learn to spell correctly or to use correct punctuation? > > How dare you be little this subject. Very easily. It is not a subject of much importance. > > Maybe you are to close to the internal FreeBSD business to be able > to see > the turn meaning of what changing the logo means to the users. I suspect that the correct answer of what the logo means to most users is 'Very little'. The is how much the new logo (or the old image of Beastie for that matter) affects me anyway. > > Maybe now is the time to ask the list if that want to vote on > keeping the new logo? Or on if a new logo is wanted at all? What makes you think that this list (or any other public list for that matter) has a vote on the question? FreeBSD is not a democracy. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jerry > McAllister > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:25 AM > To: fbsd@a1poweruser.com > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Beech Rintoul; > Chad > Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo > > > > > > As a long time reader of this list I did not see any > > announcement of it here. Only after selection of the > > new logo was made was it talked about on this list. > > People were very up set with it them and the ground > > swell over this has only gotten bigger. > > It was clearly announced with dates and how to make submissions > and all and then the closure of the submissions was announced. > There was a lot of griping on the list about why bother and > such, but not much real objection until the robo-beastie - or > would it be space-beastie - was chosen. > > Though I am not fond of the new thing, it is not because the process > of acquiring it was not announced. I do think there was a failure > to get better input on the candidates after submissions were made. > The process, or lack thereof, of selecting was rather lame. > > > Loyal long time users are feeling insulted about being > > left out from the decision about the need for a new logo. > > They were not left out, except by their own choice of not making > any submission. > > > A post in the archive give some lame reasons for a new logo > > which many people disagreed with even then but still the > > new legal FreeBSD foundation went ahead any how putting it > > on the official website removing the "beastie" logo. > > > > I for one do not see any need to change the logo at all. > > It's just as professional as the "penguin". > > > > I would say special effort was made to keep this whole > > new logo thing a secret from the general user population. > > Nope, it was well publicized. > > > That also goes for the formation of the new legal FreeBSD > > foundation. > > Not a word of it happening on this list until it was a done deal. > > You can see from this thread just how big a stink this is making. > > Many words were posted. > > > Lets point the finger at the real reason for the new logo. > > As part of the new legal FreeBSD foundation, the people who > > set it up though it's better to own the complete legal rights > > to the logo. The "beastie" logo legal rights is owned by > > an individual. So being pressed for time they choose to keep it > > off the questions list and pushed it through selecting what > > ever logo they had just to meet the filing dead line for > > the new legal FreeBSD foundation formation. > > Maybe, who knows. > > > > > For those of you who think this subject is flame bait, > > YOU ARE WHY THIS NEW LOGO IDEA WAS EVEN ABLE TO GET OFF > > THE GROUND IN THE FIRST PLACE. > > > > Sham on you, shut your pie hole. > > That was unnecessary and adds nothing to the discussion. > > > I want to know the email addresses of the people in control of > > the new foundation and everyone on this list who does not like > > the new logo and/or the way in which it was forced upon us > > should email them to voice our dissatisfaction directly to them. > > Because its obvious posting on this list has no effect or value > > in determining what happens to the legal FreeBSD organization > > and thus the logo used to represent us. > > > If you want your voice in this matter to be effective you have > > to email those in legal control of the FreeBSD foundation. > > It's time they stop hiding and become accountable for > > their stupid collective actions. > > Use whatever logo you want. > Give up trash talking. > > > Its time the FreeBSD foundation offer an binding vote by the > general > > user population from all the FreeBSD lists to settle this question > > once and for all about the "beastie" logo being the > > official FreeBSD foundation logo. This even includes our brothers > > and sisters in other countries who have their own FreeBSD.org > > websites and don't even know about this logo problem yet. > > There never has been a binding vote on anything outside of possibly > the core group. Why would a dumb piece of graphics need it. > You are missing something. > > ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 10 14:11:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7FC16A408 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 14:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from riemer@palstra.com) Received: from palstra.com (palstra.com [82.201.5.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F62743D46 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 14:11:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from riemer@palstra.com) Received: from riemer by palstra.com with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FdpP8-000IFf-5y; Wed, 10 May 2006 16:11:06 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 16:11:06 +0200 From: Riemer Palstra To: fbsd Message-ID: <20060510141106.GA69421@rb1.palstra.com> References: <200605101324.k4ADOf5s015995@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 May 2006 02:28:51 +0000 Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Beech Rintoul , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:11:12 -0000 On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 09:59:59AM -0400, fbsd wrote: > The point being it was not announced on the questions list. Oh, where would an announcement go... like, the announcement mailinglist? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:26:38 +0900 From: Jun Kuriyama To: announce@FreeBSD.org Subject: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD logo design competition [ ... ] Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:47:00 +0900 From: Jun Kuriyama To: freebsd-announce@FreeBSD.org Subject: [FreeBSD-Announce] New Logo > Quite trying to make a non-subject out of something that effects us > all. Yes, it affects us al. And yes, we all had our chance of giving input while this was still open for discussion. -- Riemer Palstra Amsterdam, The Netherlands riemer@palstra.com http://www.palstra.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 00:50:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7C716A401; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: from ritamari.vonostingroup.com (ritamari.vonostingroup.com [216.144.193.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8091F43D45; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:50:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: from c-71-227-92-22.hsd1.mi.comcast.net ([71.227.92.22] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by ritamari.vonostingroup.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ff4oK-000CUl-Qm; Sat, 13 May 2006 20:50:16 -0400 Message-ID: <44667EAF.10802@vonostingroup.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 20:49:51 -0400 From: Frank Laszlo User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Hartland References: <002101c676ed$bd1f2720$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <002101c676ed$bd1f2720$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ritamari.vonostingroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - vonostingroup.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 May 2006 02:39:27 +0000 Cc: fbsd@a1poweruser.com, ports@freebsd.org, scrappy@hub.org, Garance A Drosihn , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:50:08 -0000 Steven Hartland wrote: > Garance A Drosihn wrote: >> Unfortunately, this is the wrong solution. I'm sure >> you will love this *IFF* (that means "if and ONLY if") >> all of *YOUR* ports are in that category of important >> ports. We have 15,000 ports because every single one >> of those ports has some users who think that specific >> port is important. While I'm sure that some ports >> will be willing to be in the "second tier" category, >> I suspect you'll still have thousands of ports with >> hundreds of thousands of users who will be personally >> insulted if refused to include their >> favorite port in the "important" category. I doubt >> you will find anyone who wants to volunteer for the >> role of , because that is certainly the >> only name which will be used to describe whoever >> chooses which ports are in the special category. > > How about implement a system where by ports register > their usage to a central server. This will give us > some very useful stats about port usage and after some > time this is examind and all ports whos usage falls > under a given measure ( to be decided again by stats ) > said port is moved to a secondary port group. Eww, sounds like a good definition of spyware, I could go without people knowing exactly what I install and when. > > We could also use this info to prune ports not getting > any use at all. Then when someone does need it, it wont be there, and will have to be re-ported. > > In addition to that a method of syncing ports indivitually > might be an alternative way to go. That way instead of > syncing the many thousands of ports to compile up the > latest version of XXX you would only have to download > the port you wanted and any dependencies. This is a neat idea that Marc brought up. Perhaps a dynamic ports tree is the answer. With an up to date INDEX, It probably wouldn't be hard to patch the ports system to download JUST the ports you need, and their dependencies. We would just have to decide on the method to do this. I suppose something like cvsup, or portsnap could be utilized to checkout single ports. But then again, after that, whats the point of even having sub directories for ports? Why not just have it download the framework, build the port, and delete everything. Now its starting to resemble debians apt-get. *shrug* -Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 03:32:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D4916A418 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 03:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@houston.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1E143D55 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 03:32:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@houston.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (cpe-24-160-85-249.houston.res.rr.com [24.160.85.249]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4E3WOoF019228 for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 22:32:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4466A4CF.5090202@houston.rr.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:32:31 -0500 From: "Steve P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: console image viewer - problems with zgv X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 03:32:27 -0000 On Sat, 13 May 2006, Steve P. wrote: > Anyone know of a decent jpg viewer for the console? > I don't want to install X. zgv in the ports/graphics. This works well as a stand-alone or as the non-X viewer for lynx, etc. -- Lars Eighner eigh... @io.com l... @larseighner.com http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questi... @freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr... @freebsd.org" zgv fails to build from ports, something about a security problem from vuxml.freebsd. A similar thing happens with pkg_add -r zgv, or file not found. man ports talks about DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES. Is this a way I can build it from the port? Could someone give an example how to do this? Alternatively, is there another jpg console viewer? Thanks in advance. steve. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 03:37:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED2B16A430 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 03:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkerian@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A08643D5D for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 03:37:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jkerian@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so179104nfa for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 20:37:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=L9swS7diUutVnmEPmzHxiKu44MbyaOOyHLsFIIt3P7rv8xRGA0qlTNf3IE3N/uM2LcS8Cd9KH7LNJit/O+iiqkgyp9dvxgFiZn8emBwX8B29Rzfvx/Atz1l9b5z3XvRFypoGdmN7wfmspC4+hNbGovBBI8xLClhWd6uWYH2ZpaE= Received: by 10.48.213.13 with SMTP id l13mr2320079nfg; Sat, 13 May 2006 20:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.42.2 with HTTP; Sat, 13 May 2006 20:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <282b2dd90605132037h2a062218y265ef68dd05f56b5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:37:01 -0500 From: "Joseph Kerian" To: "Frank Laszlo" In-Reply-To: <44667EAF.10802@vonostingroup.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <002101c676ed$bd1f2720$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> <44667EAF.10802@vonostingroup.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 May 2006 03:44:48 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: scrappy@hub.org, ports@freebsd.org, Steven Hartland , fbsd@a1poweruser.com, Garance A Drosihn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 03:37:12 -0000 On 5/13/06, Frank Laszlo wrote: > > We could also use this info to prune ports not getting > > any use at all. > Then when someone does need it, it wont be there, and will have to be > re-ported. > > > > In addition to that a method of syncing ports indivitually > > might be an alternative way to go. That way instead of > > syncing the many thousands of ports to compile up the > > latest version of XXX you would only have to download > > the port you wanted and any dependencies. > > This is a neat idea that Marc brought up. Perhaps a dynamic ports tree > is the answer. With an up to date INDEX, It probably wouldn't be hard to > patch the ports system to download JUST the ports you need, and their > dependencies. We would just have to decide on the method to do this. I > suppose something like cvsup, or portsnap could be utilized to checkout > single ports. But then again, after that, whats the point of even having > sub directories for ports? Why not just have it download the framework, > build the port, and delete everything. Now its starting to resemble > debians apt-get. *shrug* The resemblance is not, in and of itself, a bad thing. Is there anything preventing someone from making a portupgrade-like tool that uses only tmp, = a /ports dir on an ftp site and a bit of intelligence regarding dependency resolution? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not seeing any technical reasons this couldn't be done. (okay... so your equivelent of portversion might get a little more complicated or potentially wierd) I would submit, however, that it hasn't been done simply because it isn't needed. 210 mb is laughably insignificant on any system I would build ports= . Although you can say that the number of ports is increasing, disk size is doing the same; I'm unconvinced that the ports tree size is growing fast enough to outpace either the expansion of high speed networks or modern disks. This may change of course, but we would likely have some warning. :) Regards, Joe Kerian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 03:47:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E453016A402 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 03:47:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew.chace@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A9843D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 03:47:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrew.chace@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i11so418487nzi for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 20:47:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=oEC/2iQ5sXCVuPSqwuIYRBpsZ2SpzIzOXTYwNrlIPAC+W4sYJWxjOH7PD3+bInBPDlPG/ZGKlIYf1V0DrukDQOGtV34VK1YsePU1s4i8etXelDuUja9X8EOYxvuivQi2H9Ts7S8xPDyPtxIqvdkONh5EeGw5FuEhr/KU/5XWyOA= Received: by 10.36.252.70 with SMTP id z70mr206450nzh; Sat, 13 May 2006 20:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [71.38.163.167]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 22sm6026475nzn.2006.05.13.20.47.20; Sat, 13 May 2006 20:47:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:45:37 -0500 Message-Id: <1147578337.10075.12.camel@LatitudeFC5.network> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 (2.6.1-1.fc5.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: VM and jailed processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 03:47:22 -0000 Ok, I'm a bit fuzzy on some of the details, so take it easy. ;-) It's my understanding that if there is more than one instance of a specific application running, then portions of the code are shared in memory. I would assume that would apply to dynamically linked applications as well; i.e. if two different applications are linked against the same library, the given code exists in only one location in memory. Is this correct? The second portion of my question is, how does this apply to jailed processes? Looking through the architecture handbook, I did not see any references to VM, which leads me to believe that the standard rules apply to jails as well. So, for instance, if I was to provide a hosting service with numerous instances of Apache running in individual jails, could I assume that base memory usage (ie idle, not serving requests) would increase at a roughly linear rate? Lastly, if this is a question perhaps more appropriate for hackers@, please correct me. Thanks, -Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 03:48:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B9D16A421 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 03:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmc20@xxiii.com) Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23C643D58 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 03:48:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmc20@xxiii.com) Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.209.177.221]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060514034838.XVAL9063.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 23:48:38 -0400 Received: from wcox.bellsouth.net ([68.209.177.221]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060514034835.WQTI4378.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@wcox.bellsouth.net>; Sat, 13 May 2006 23:48:35 -0400 Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.2.20060513234344.02ebfd00@mailsvr.xxiii.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 23:48:47 -0400 To: "Tom Moore" , From: wc_fbsd@xxiii.com In-Reply-To: <000301c676b3$9f398b90$6603a8c0@zeus> References: <000301c676b3$9f398b90$6603a8c0@zeus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Cvsup verses Portsnap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 03:48:57 -0000 At 01:35 PM 5/13/2006, Tom Moore wrote: >Which program is best for retrieving and keeping the ports tree up >to date? What are some pros and cons of each approach? Is one method >better than the other? I just discovered portsnap a couple months ago after loading a couple new machines with 6.0. It is AWESOME (thanks, Colin! (the guy that developed it)). Do not even screw with cvsup for your ports. portsnap is faster, easier, and (I'm told) even lower bandwith and server overhead. About the only downside, is it has a directory in /var/db that was about 50MB with a bunch of little files last I looked, and I suspect it grows with time. But what's disk space these days? -Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 04:02:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1E916A422 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868F743D58 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:02:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id e30so847548pya for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:02:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=t7U2UkpqzrC7mYxCwPNbqFDzHhY0A0kg/i8c0hO9AlV8PfL8pq0eER4YAi1+4/yucQ2bEB9HyjKufNGRXH7bGFH4zTEix9ThfIkMnLPjsSc8WvRiLDrOKqU7VdxDsWkVQ3K8QzrfEmU81Gu8In0cjeP2+DkLK0aw+pL3r3tubhs= Received: by 10.35.90.20 with SMTP id s20mr1510888pyl; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.13.3 with HTTP; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:02:32 -0400 From: "David Stanford" To: "wc_fbsd@xxiii.com" In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20060513234344.02ebfd00@mailsvr.xxiii.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000301c676b3$9f398b90$6603a8c0@zeus> <6.2.3.4.2.20060513234344.02ebfd00@mailsvr.xxiii.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Tom Moore , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cvsup verses Portsnap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 04:02:46 -0000 Yea, Colin's the man. http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/ highlights all the beneifts. -David On 5/13/06, wc_fbsd@xxiii.com wrote: > > At 01:35 PM 5/13/2006, Tom Moore wrote: > >Which program is best for retrieving and keeping the ports tree up > >to date? What are some pros and cons of each approach? Is one method > >better than the other? > > I just discovered portsnap a couple months ago after loading a couple > new machines with 6.0. It is AWESOME (thanks, Colin! (the guy that > developed it)). > > Do not even screw with cvsup for your ports. portsnap is faster, > easier, and (I'm told) even lower bandwith and server > overhead. About the only downside, is it has a directory in /var/db > that was about 50MB with a bunch of little files last I looked, and I > suspect it grows with time. But what's disk space these days? > > -Wayne > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 04:39:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C70D16A402 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7021043D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:39:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k4E4cux92414; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:38:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Fabian Keil" Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 21:38:56 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 In-reply-to: <20060511120627.37cc5d31@localhost> Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: New FreeBSD Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 04:39:06 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Fabian Keil >Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:06 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo > > >"Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of >Axel S. Gruner >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:46 AM >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >Subject: RE: New FreeBSD Logo >> > >> > >> >Am Mittwoch, den 10.05.2006, 02:05 -0700 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: >> >> My guess is it will be a long, long time before you see CDROMs >> >> from anybody that have deleted Beastie and have the sex toy. >> > >> >At LinuxTag 2006 in Wiesbaden we had prepared a lot of CDs >with the new >> >Logo (what you call a "sex toy"?). We also used the new logo >as a flag >> >on our booth. >> >You will find a few pictures here: >> >http://www.encephalon.de/photo/bsd_bilder/lt2006/index.html >> > >> >So, the "long long time" was a really short time ;-). >> > >> >> I think you missed the part of the post where I said: >> >> "people have to pay for, to see if those last as a product," >> >> The context of the post made it pretty clear I was talking about >> commercial CD's that are sold, not given away. > >Issue 3/2006 of the German magazine freeX has the new logo on >its cover, on the included disc and it appears several times >in the articles. > >http://www.cul.de/images/freex32006cg.jpg > Actually this isn't the logo, the nipples on it aren't recessed, but in any case this is really a great example of why this logo does nothing to help the FreeBSD project. What about the logo makes you think of an operating system? And what about this cover is at all compelling to induce someone to pick up the magazine and buy it? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 04:52:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CDE16A400 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3096343D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:52:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k4E4qBx92487; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:52:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "David Stanford" Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 21:52:11 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Cc: reflex@rotten.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: New FreeBSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 04:52:19 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: David Stanford [mailto:dthomas53@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 8:11 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: reflex@rotten.com; questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo On 5/13/06, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>Your missing something - "they" didn't ask all us users if we wanted >>a new logo or not. >I wasn't aware they had to (?). I wasn't aware we had to praise and thank them for something we didn't want. >my statement meant that I hoped the Project isn't swayed out of >using the logo because of childish posts such as these. They put the new logo in over lots of objections so I doubt that childish posts will make any difference. > I would love to hear how this, > among your *many* other posts, has contributed to this list. Sure, as soon as you say how your post chastising the people that think the new logo looks like a sex toy has made a contribution to the list. >>The community doesen't want the new logo and the majority of the >>community >>prefers Beastie over the sex-toy. >You speak for the community? The community has already spoken, go back and look at all the posts on this and the other lists on the logo, the majority of them don't like it. You probably should have done this research before posting. >Agreed, and this will be my last post on the subject Good, we don't need more posting on this topic from people who haven't bothered to read the overwhelming posts against the new logo. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 04:57:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D1D16A406 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C98F43D6B for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:57:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k4E4v6x92513; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Henry Lenzi" , Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 21:57:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 In-reply-to: <8b4c81f0605130903m5dfb4805tc9abdfd60711f112@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: New FreeBSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 04:57:11 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Henry Lenzi >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:04 AM >To: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo > > I really hope the rationale wasn't something >like evangelical christians having problem with "the little red >devil." It was, I am sorry to say. The core developer that pushed for all this said he was tired of when presenting FreeBSD to have to field a bunch of questions by people hung up over the devil image, it distracted from the presentation of the operating system's features. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 05:19:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7970C16A400 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 05:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from mail07.powweb.com (mail07.powweb.com [66.152.97.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DB843D48 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 05:19:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (24-119-225-24.cpe.cableone.net [24.119.225.24]) by mail07.powweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6160114DB61; Sat, 13 May 2006 22:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:19:27 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Tom Norris Message-ID: <20060514001927.4b3b9188@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: <44666077.2040506@trancegeek.net> References: <44666077.2040506@trancegeek.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.0 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 05:19:22 -0000 On Sat, 13 May 2006 18:40:55 -0400 Tom Norris wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD system as > file server. He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's > RDP client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine > at his whim. Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP > connections? Since he wants RDP, I doubt it would go by, but you may want to check out xming. I use that for connecting to my FBSD workstation at work from my windows workstation when I do not have my FBSD laptop with me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 06:13:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E2516A400 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 06:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varuna@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E824B43D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 06:13:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from varuna@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 57717 invoked from network); 14 May 2006 06:13:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO akasha.akasha) (varuna@sbcglobal.net@69.107.2.187 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2006 06:13:14 -0000 From: Varuna To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 23:13:13 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200605132313.13500.varuna@sbcglobal.net> Cc: Henry Lenzi , questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 06:13:16 -0000 On Saturday 13 May 2006 21:57, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Henry Lenzi > >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:04 AM > >To: questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo > > > > > I really hope the rationale wasn't something > >like evangelical christians having problem with "the little red > >devil." > > It was, I am sorry to say. The core developer that pushed for all > this said he was tired of when presenting FreeBSD to have to field > a bunch of questions by people hung up over the devil image, it > distracted from the presentation of the operating system's features. > > Ted > _______________________________________________ That's ironic to me because what I perceive with the 3d glass look is that the devil image has been given a seriousness whereas Beastie said cute and mischievous. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 06:13:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA5F16A402 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 06:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varuna@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E83B443D46 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 06:13:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from varuna@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 57717 invoked from network); 14 May 2006 06:13:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO akasha.akasha) (varuna@sbcglobal.net@69.107.2.187 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2006 06:13:14 -0000 From: Varuna To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 23:13:13 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200605132313.13500.varuna@sbcglobal.net> Cc: Henry Lenzi , questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 06:13:16 -0000 On Saturday 13 May 2006 21:57, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Henry Lenzi > >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:04 AM > >To: questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo > > > > > I really hope the rationale wasn't something > >like evangelical christians having problem with "the little red > >devil." > > It was, I am sorry to say. The core developer that pushed for all > this said he was tired of when presenting FreeBSD to have to field > a bunch of questions by people hung up over the devil image, it > distracted from the presentation of the operating system's features. > > Ted > _______________________________________________ That's ironic to me because what I perceive with the 3d glass look is that the devil image has been given a seriousness whereas Beastie said cute and mischievous. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 07:01:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC4816A402; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713EA43D58; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:01:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767EA290C1F; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 98346-02; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-7-151-244.eastlink.ca [71.7.151.244]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A7C290C1E; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E9ED25D4A2; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D7E47F00; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:32 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:32 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Varuna In-Reply-To: <200605132313.13500.varuna@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20060514035929.O1279@ganymede.hub.org> References: <200605132313.13500.varuna@sbcglobal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Henry Lenzi , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:01:34 -0000 On Sat, 13 May 2006, Varuna wrote: > On Saturday 13 May 2006 21:57, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Henry Lenzi >>> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:04 AM >>> To: questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo >>> >> >>> I really hope the rationale wasn't something >>> like evangelical christians having problem with "the little red >>> devil." >> >> It was, I am sorry to say. The core developer that pushed for all >> this said he was tired of when presenting FreeBSD to have to field >> a bunch of questions by people hung up over the devil image, it >> distracted from the presentation of the operating system's features. >> >> Ted >> _______________________________________________ > > > That's ironic to me because what I perceive with the 3d glass look is that the > devil image has been given a seriousness whereas Beastie said cute and > mischievous. I have to admit, when I first saw the new logo, it kinda lost me as to why we were changing from something 'cute' to something 'sterile' :( To me, Beastie will always == FreeBSD, and even though there is a new "Official Logo", I'll stick with proudly displaying Beastie on my web site *shrug* Beastie will only ever die if ppl stop displaying him ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 07:01:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC4816A402; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713EA43D58; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:01:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767EA290C1F; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 98346-02; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-7-151-244.eastlink.ca [71.7.151.244]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A7C290C1E; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E9ED25D4A2; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D7E47F00; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:32 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 04:01:32 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Varuna In-Reply-To: <200605132313.13500.varuna@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20060514035929.O1279@ganymede.hub.org> References: <200605132313.13500.varuna@sbcglobal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Henry Lenzi , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:01:34 -0000 On Sat, 13 May 2006, Varuna wrote: > On Saturday 13 May 2006 21:57, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Henry Lenzi >>> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:04 AM >>> To: questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo >>> >> >>> I really hope the rationale wasn't something >>> like evangelical christians having problem with "the little red >>> devil." >> >> It was, I am sorry to say. The core developer that pushed for all >> this said he was tired of when presenting FreeBSD to have to field >> a bunch of questions by people hung up over the devil image, it >> distracted from the presentation of the operating system's features. >> >> Ted >> _______________________________________________ > > > That's ironic to me because what I perceive with the 3d glass look is that the > devil image has been given a seriousness whereas Beastie said cute and > mischievous. I have to admit, when I first saw the new logo, it kinda lost me as to why we were changing from something 'cute' to something 'sterile' :( To me, Beastie will always == FreeBSD, and even though there is a new "Official Logo", I'll stick with proudly displaying Beastie on my web site *shrug* Beastie will only ever die if ppl stop displaying him ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 07:10:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655CB16A40E for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from havoc.unixathome.org (havoc.unixathome.org [66.154.98.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9DC43D69 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:10:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4105649B for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from havoc.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (havoc.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8SnJmDlb8xGC for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3C691564BC; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20060514071002.3C691564BC@havoc.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2006-04-23 - 2006-05-13 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:10:10 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 07:30:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08ECD16A400 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (110.118.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch [83.78.118.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E2943D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:30:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4E7ft6m068246; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:41:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k4E7fsPh068245; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:41:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:41:54 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: Odhiambo WASHINGTON , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060514074154.GA63826@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo WASHINGTON , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060513133807.GA64786@saturn.pcs.ms> <20060513164929.GA65830@ns2.wananchi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060513164929.GA65830@ns2.wananchi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Cc: Subject: Re: /dev/console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:30:12 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Wash Am Sat, May 13, 2006 at 07:49:29PM +0300 Odhiambo WASHINGTON schrieb: > * On 13/05/06 15:38 +0200, Martin Schweizer wrote: > | Hello > |=20 > | After upgradeing to 5.4p14 I get this on the console: >=20 > tell us how you upgraded.. what steps? - cvsuped RELENG_5_4 - like described in the handbook in chapter 9.4 "The canonical way to updat= e=20 your system" --=20 Regards Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEZt9Cwa4WkdMP0jkRAng4AKDchxdq4S4byrdbZQ4/wep2Z8k8qgCfWSLP KSHAZGhDvuXFQgmH3UxbdYc= =Eu6I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 07:42:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4435D16A404 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:42:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA64D43D55 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:42:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id s19so548250wxc for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:42:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XE6wybzGVgvcRQDOyNLaN3zLuazzQ1K9f9mXByN7e9PMiPyC4G2SjDm18s2vMxY1mFl14Ud9JMR9eeNM4U7dTIxvMesy43Sch85o9SO2kKQ7XTIAHsGzC0AIhpN0pLZ3V3uRp2nxTN01BkdwSJ9odekGhu2FQFstdDr9F/9HgPI= Received: by 10.70.100.16 with SMTP id x16mr5132211wxb; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.94.16 with HTTP; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0605140042m1e89c38bw1f0c33ddb44569a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:42:22 +0200 From: "Maan Jee" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: PHP not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:42:23 -0000 Hello, I have installed Apache HTTP Server 2.20 and PHP 5. But when I want to open index.php file in the browser instead of getting the Output Html page, I ge= t SAVE "index.php" file popup. What is the wrong, I have added these lines in httpd.conf AddType application/x- httpd-php . php AddType application/x- httpd-php-source . phps Thanks vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 07:51:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE3816A401 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@greenmeadow.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B380A43D4C for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:51:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duane@greenmeadow.ca) Received: from ip01.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.5]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IZ800LNMWGRYFM0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:50:51 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-199-230.eastlink.ca (HELO [192.168.0.103]) ([24.224.199.230]) by ip01.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:51:38 -0300 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 04:50:50 -0300 From: Duane Whitty In-reply-to: <2cd0a0da0605140042m1e89c38bw1f0c33ddb44569a8@mail.gmail.com> To: Maan Jee Message-id: <4466E15A.2050303@greenmeadow.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <2cd0a0da0605140042m1e89c38bw1f0c33ddb44569a8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060503) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:51:38 -0000 Maan Jee wrote: > Hello, > > I have installed Apache HTTP Server 2.20 and PHP 5. But when I want to > open > index.php file in the browser instead of getting the Output Html page, > I get > SAVE "index.php" file popup. > > What is the wrong, I have added these lines in httpd.conf > AddType application/x- httpd-php . php > AddType application/x- httpd-php-source . phps > > Thanks > > vj > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Hi, You need to add index.php to the DirectoryIndex line in /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf It should look like DirectoryIndex index.html index.php Hope this helps. Sincerely, Duane Whitty -- duane@greenmeadow.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 07:55:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E22216A404 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@greenmeadow.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2FD43D5A for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:55:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duane@greenmeadow.ca) Received: from ip01.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.5]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IZ8008REWP7FUM0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:55:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-199-230.eastlink.ca (HELO [192.168.0.103]) ([24.224.199.230]) by ip01.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Sun, 14 May 2006 04:55:43 -0300 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 04:54:54 -0300 From: Duane Whitty In-reply-to: <2cd0a0da0605140042m1e89c38bw1f0c33ddb44569a8@mail.gmail.com> To: Maan Jee Message-id: <4466E24E.2010908@greenmeadow.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <2cd0a0da0605140042m1e89c38bw1f0c33ddb44569a8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060503) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:55:42 -0000 Maan Jee wrote: > Hello, > > I have installed Apache HTTP Server 2.20 and PHP 5. But when I want to > open > index.php file in the browser instead of getting the Output Html page, > I get > SAVE "index.php" file popup. > > What is the wrong, I have added these lines in httpd.conf > AddType application/x- httpd-php . php > AddType application/x- httpd-php-source . phps Also make sure there are no spaces in .php and .phps in the above lines --Duane > > Thanks > > vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 07:55:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E215E16A401 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C0143D4C for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:55:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k4E7tRx93173; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:55:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Tom Norris" , Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:55:27 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 In-reply-to: <44666077.2040506@trancegeek.net> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:55:49 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Tom Norris >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:41 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft >RDP connections? > > >Hello everyone, > >I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD >system as file >server. He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP >client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his >whim. Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections? > Hell-lo! Clue phone ringing! Your boss doesen't want you to use any other solution than Windows, get the picture? If such a thing as an RDP<->XWindows conversion daemon existed, your boss would find some other nit picky thing that he would hold up as a deal-breaker. Then if that was fixed he would find some other thing. And on and on and on. What you need to do is recognize that the place your working at is hopelessly borked as long as your boss is working there, and just keep your head down and look for a better job somewhere else. If you put the same effort looking for a better place to work as your putting into trying to convince your boss to do something he's simply afraid of doing, you would surely find one. People like your boss are only convinced by evolutionary changes. What will happen one of these days is a problem will come up that cannot be fixed by the old Microsoft standbys, and your boss will be fired for incompetence. Then when he goes to find another job everyone will be asking him if he has any Linux experience, and at that time he will suddenly start thinking it might be a good idea to start looking into this yoo-niks thing. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 08:00:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E1416A546 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) Received: from natipslore.rzone.de (natipslore.rzone.de [81.169.145.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666D143D5E for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:00:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) Received: from postit (p54B12A97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.177.42.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4E80W9J003431; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:00:33 +0200 (MEST) Received: from www.home.roberte.eu (localhost.home.roberte.eu [127.0.0.1]) by postit (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4E80Sl6093928; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:00:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) From: "Robert Eckardt" To: "Maan Jee" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:00:28 +0200 Message-Id: <20060514075912.M67257@Robert-Eckardt.de> In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0605140042m1e89c38bw1f0c33ddb44569a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cd0a0da0605140042m1e89c38bw1f0c33ddb44569a8@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.182.11 (roberte) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: PHP not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:00:53 -0000 On Sun, 14 May 2006 09:42:22 +0200, Maan Jee wrote > Hello, > > I have installed Apache HTTP Server 2.20 and PHP 5. But when I want > to open index.php file in the browser instead of getting the Output > Html page, I get SAVE "index.php" file popup. > > What is the wrong, I have added these lines in httpd.conf > AddType application/x- httpd-php . php > AddType application/x- httpd-php-source . phps There must not be a space in your application type .../x-httpd-... Robert -- Dr. Robert Eckardt --- Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 08:12:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6000A16A403 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09EE43D48 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:12:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.03/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k4E8CC7L016112 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:12:12 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.50] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.03/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k4E8C3iC010978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:12:10 -0700 Message-ID: <4466E656.20904@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:12:06 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:12:14 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Tom Norris >> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:41 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft >> RDP connections? >> >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD >> system as file >> server. He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP >> client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his >> whim. Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections? >> >> > > Hell-lo! Clue phone ringing! > > Your boss doesen't want you to use any other solution than Windows, > get the picture? If such a thing as an RDP<->XWindows conversion > daemon existed, your boss would find some other nit picky thing > that he would hold up as a deal-breaker. Then if that was fixed > he would find some other thing. And on and on and on. > > What you need to do is recognize that the place your working at > is hopelessly borked as long as your boss is working there, and > just keep your head down and look for a better job somewhere else. > > If you put the same effort looking for a better place to work > as your putting into trying to convince your boss to do something > he's simply afraid of doing, you would surely find one. > > People like your boss are only convinced by evolutionary changes. > What will happen one of these days is a problem will come up that > cannot be fixed by the old Microsoft standbys, and your boss will > be fired for incompetence. Then when he goes to find another job > everyone will be asking him if he has any Linux experience, and at > that time he will suddenly start thinking it might be a good idea > to start looking into this yoo-niks thing. > > Ted No solution for the RDP protocol exists on Unix as its a proprietary protocol that I think would be difficult to implement given X11's setup on Unix. However, there's also the NoMachine NX server/client protocol to look into, which is hailed as a Unix counterpart for RDP. See for a licensed version and for a GNU opensource version. So if you really want to sell your boss on remote access with FreeBSD, I would look into this solution. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 08:31:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D299C16A40B; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6188743D45; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:31:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k4E8VNx93373; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:31:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Varuna" , Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:31:23 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 In-Reply-To: <200605132313.13500.varuna@sbcglobal.net> Importance: Normal Cc: Henry Lenzi , questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: New FreeBSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:31:27 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Varuna >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:13 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Cc: Henry Lenzi; questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt >Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo > > > >That's ironic to me because what I perceive with the 3d glass >look is that the >devil image has been given a seriousness whereas Beastie said cute and >mischievous. > But to ignoramusus the new logo doesen't look like a devil image, it looks like a sex toy. Thus they don't view it as a serious devil, just a serious sex toy, and apparently these days sex toys are OK but if you make fun of The Prince of Darkness by making a cute little logo of him, your going to Hell. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 08:31:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D299C16A40B; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6188743D45; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:31:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k4E8VNx93373; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:31:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Varuna" , Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:31:23 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 In-Reply-To: <200605132313.13500.varuna@sbcglobal.net> Importance: Normal Cc: Henry Lenzi , questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: New FreeBSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:31:27 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Varuna >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:13 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Cc: Henry Lenzi; questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt >Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo > > > >That's ironic to me because what I perceive with the 3d glass >look is that the >devil image has been given a seriousness whereas Beastie said cute and >mischievous. > But to ignoramusus the new logo doesen't look like a devil image, it looks like a sex toy. Thus they don't view it as a serious devil, just a serious sex toy, and apparently these days sex toys are OK but if you make fun of The Prince of Darkness by making a cute little logo of him, your going to Hell. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 08:32:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E7616A413 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:32:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bidjan@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7184643D53 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:32:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bidjan@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id e30so868307pya for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:32:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JhoEvCOs9ZE3sEc6lQ/0GhIJ+hlljVhvkLkzmIKO3AbHcMgi7RYphbYGp9cGR3fwXWeCH8B90vrf/u1r7wQbV0SHsl/IqdSCN461kffaWpnf4xcF3UJLIHfp6/5bmDNuhw7pYsvgD6IY1WrtpM2Vl5sDzpg+ADius2CW0+FC8jA= Received: by 10.35.84.12 with SMTP id m12mr1613680pyl; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.43.16 with HTTP; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 04:32:40 -0400 From: "Pablo Mora" To: "Maan Jee" In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0605140042m1e89c38bw1f0c33ddb44569a8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <2cd0a0da0605140042m1e89c38bw1f0c33ddb44569a8@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:32:42 -0000 On 5/14/06, Maan Jee wrote: > Hello, > > I have installed Apache HTTP Server 2.20 and PHP 5. But when I want to op= en > index.php file in the browser instead of getting the Output Html page, I = get > SAVE "index.php" file popup. > > What is the wrong, I have added these lines in httpd.conf > AddType application/x- httpd-php . php > AddType application/x- httpd-php-source . phps > Once modified the httpd.conf file you must restart apache. As root: apachectl restart don't forget add enable_apache2=3D"YES" to /etc/rc.conf regards. --=20 Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love Unix ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 08:35:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFA916A423 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C092E43D80 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:35:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k4E8Z0x93392; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Garrett Cooper" , Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:35:00 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 In-Reply-To: <4466E656.20904@u.washington.edu> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:35:20 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Garrett Cooper >Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:12 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts >Microsoft RDP connections? > > > However, there's also the NoMachine NX server/client protocol >to look into, which is hailed as a Unix counterpart for RDP. See > for a licensed version and > for a GNU opensource version. So if you >really want to sell your boss on remote access with FreeBSD, I would >look into this solution. The point was that no matter what he tells his boss, he will get it shot down. But he can certainly try. Usually what happens with these kinds of discussions is someone will post something similar to what our original poster said, everyone will replay with lots of well-meaning suggestions, the OP will then get lit up and go back to his boss or whoever is being obstructive, and get shot down again. And most times we never hear from the OP again with a followup. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 08:39:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C657816A532 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A4243D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:39:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.03/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k4E8dm3T032511 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:39:48 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.50] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.03/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k4E8daxM011758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 01:39:46 -0700 Message-ID: <4466ECCB.1020200@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:39:39 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:39:49 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Garrett Cooper >> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:12 AM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts >> Microsoft RDP connections? >> >> >> However, there's also the NoMachine NX server/client protocol >> to look into, which is hailed as a Unix counterpart for RDP. See >> for a licensed version and >> for a GNU opensource version. So if you >> really want to sell your boss on remote access with FreeBSD, I would >> look into this solution. >> > > The point was that no matter what he tells his boss, he will get it > shot down. > > But he can certainly try. > > Usually what happens with these kinds of discussions is someone > will post something similar to what our original poster said, everyone > will replay with lots of well-meaning suggestions, the OP will then > get lit up and go back to his boss or whoever is being obstructive, > and get shot down again. And most times we never hear from the OP > again with a followup. > > Ted > True... I was just offering a suggestion, just in case. I figured that if the boss doesn't like Unix (which it seems he probably doesn't) though-like you said, so he won't support this. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 08:40:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108E916A419; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B718543D8F; Sun, 14 May 2006 08:40:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4E8eSva013034 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 14 May 2006 18:40:28 +1000 Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4E8eRYY009720; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:40:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4E8eRFi009719; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:40:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:40:27 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Joseph Kerian Message-ID: <20060514084027.GA8696@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Mail-Followup-To: Peter Jeremy , Joseph Kerian , ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <002101c676ed$bd1f2720$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> <44667EAF.10802@vonostingroup.com> <282b2dd90605132037h2a062218y265ef68dd05f56b5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <282b2dd90605132037h2a062218y265ef68dd05f56b5@mail.gmail.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:40:37 -0000 On Sat, 2006-May-13 22:37:01 -0500, Joseph Kerian wrote: >The resemblance is not, in and of itself, a bad thing. Is there anything >preventing someone from making a portupgrade-like tool that uses only tmp, a >/ports dir on an ftp site and a bit of intelligence regarding dependency >resolution? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not seeing any technical >reasons this couldn't be done. (okay... so your equivelent of portversion >might get a little more complicated or potentially wierd) The biggest problem I see is keeping just your local ports subset up-to-date (so when you do a 'make foo', you can be sure that all the dependencies - including ports/Mk are up to date). CVSup and CTM are not designed to do this (though CVS can mostly manage it) so the portupgrade-like tool would need to manage this itself. >I would submit, however, that it hasn't been done simply because it isn't >needed. 210 mb is laughably insignificant on any system I would build ports. As a CVS checkout (in a 16k/2k filesystem), my ports tree is nearly 500MB and 190,000 inodes. Without the CVS metadata, it's 327MB and just over 100K inodes. The size is fairly irrelevant (especially in the face of ports that need 2-4GB to build) but the 100K-200K inodes is non-trivial. -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 09:00:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD20D16A400 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axel.burwitz@arcor.de) Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3211443D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:00:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from axel.burwitz@arcor.de) Received: from mail-in-10-z2.arcor-so.net (mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.27]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0A5168221 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:00:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.47]) by mail-in-10-z2.arcor-so.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAFF33A82F for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:00:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dslb-084-058-032-212.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.58.32.212]) (Authenticated sender: axel.burwitz@arcor.de) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5586A168221 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:00:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4466F1A4.80700@arcor.de> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:00:20 +0200 From: Axel Burwitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060212) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: make for KDE 3.5.2 fails (6.1-Stable) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: axel.burwitz@arcor.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:00:28 -0000 Hi all, well something is always going wrong in a upgrdae proces... After I got sucessfully helped over the first hurdle and managed to upgrade my FreeBSD system from 6.1-Release to 6.1-Stable, I wanted to go from KDE 3.4.2 to KDE 3.5.2. But: the make fails with folowing message: "konq_popupmenu.cc:797: error: no matching function for call to `KDEDesktopMimeType::userDefinedServices(const QString, KSimpleConfig&, bool, KURL::List&)' /usr/local/include/kmimetype.h:561: note: candidates are: static QValueList KDEDesktopMimeType::userDefinedServices(const QString&, bool) /usr/local/include/kmimetype.h:568: note: static QValueList KDEDesktopMimeType::userDefinedServices(const QString&, KConfig&, bool) gmake[3]: *** [konq_popupmenu.lo] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2/libkonq' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2/libkonq' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2' gmake: *** [all] Error 2" Well, have no idea what to do now.... Has anybody a hint for me? Many thanks in advance, best regards Axel -- ********************************************* Axel Burwitz Phone +49 (0) 6021 570717 Mobile +49 (0) 151 15123177 ICQ 339978580 ********************************************* ********************************************* Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5 @ FreeBSD 6.1-PRE ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 09:12:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B9316A404 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bidjan@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237C843D5D for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:12:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bidjan@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id e30so871450pya for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:12:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OZjDRzi1Nhs2hyUcvMVyucS9U4SxH3SohvPNBNhkJjuojiH7v73cnzBagszOj8gRTi9SUiPMbLVg1BiqlBN/pLzWX2JXVeAyb0bPV2Gk4s1bAMVlN9hp/uzXy0TPoQLyUIxASYPKZ1NG5GyNxtsQcPHCL5qPtaLhslzignodlT0= Received: by 10.35.78.13 with SMTP id f13mr1673944pyl; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.43.16 with HTTP; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 05:12:12 -0400 From: "Pablo Mora" To: axel.burwitz@arcor.de In-Reply-To: <4466F1A4.80700@arcor.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4466F1A4.80700@arcor.de> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make for KDE 3.5.2 fails (6.1-Stable) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:12:20 -0000 On 5/14/06, Axel Burwitz wrote: > Hi all, > > well something is always going wrong in a upgrdae proces... > > > After I got sucessfully helped over the first hurdle and managed to > upgrade my FreeBSD system from 6.1-Release to 6.1-Stable, I wanted to go > from KDE 3.4.2 to KDE 3.5.2. > > But: the make fails with folowing message: > > "konq_popupmenu.cc:797: error: no matching function for call to > `KDEDesktopMimeType::userDefinedServices(const QString, KSimpleConfig&, > bool, KURL::List&)' > /usr/local/include/kmimetype.h:561: note: candidates are: static > QValueList > KDEDesktopMimeType::userDefinedServices(const QString&, bool) > /usr/local/include/kmimetype.h:568: note: static > QValueList > KDEDesktopMimeType::userDefinedServices(const QString&, KConfig&, bool) > gmake[3]: *** [konq_popupmenu.lo] Error 1 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2/libkonq' > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2/libkonq' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2" > > > Well, have no idea what to do now.... > > Has anybody a hint for me? > read /usr/ports/UPDATE for any entry to KDE. --=20 Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love Unix ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 09:15:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A2F16A406 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corl3ss@corl3ss.com) Received: from web0.as30781.net (web0.as30781.net [193.151.86.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C0F43D48 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:15:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corl3ss@corl3ss.com) Received: (qmail 3875 invoked from network); 14 May 2006 09:15:50 -0000 Received: from roo49-1-82-245-53-119.fbx.proxad.net (HELO ?82.245.53.119?) (82.245.53.119) by web0.as30781.net with SMTP; 14 May 2006 09:15:50 -0000 Message-ID: <4466F526.50507@corl3ss.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:15:18 +0200 From: corl3ss User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ATI radeon mobility x600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:15:32 -0000 Hi, I can't configure the ATI radeon mobility x600 of my laptop for Xorg... Startx crashes and returns to the console with this logs (pasted and the end). Any Ideas ? Thanks ! --------log---------- This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation CVS repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CvsPage for CVS access instructions. X Window System Version 6.8.99.903 (6.9.0 RC 3) Release Date: 03 December 2005 + cvs X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.99.903 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.1 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD xxxx.xxx 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:32:43 UTC 2006 root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 16 March 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun May 14 11:03:44 2006 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "My Monitor" (**) | |-->Device "** ATI Radeon (generic) [radeon]" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1" (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"). (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 X.Org Video Driver: 0.8 X.Org XInput driver : 0.5 X.Org Server Extension : 0.2 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on freebsd (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so (II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.99.903, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.so (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.99.903, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,2590 card 1179,ff00 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,2591 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1c:0: chip 8086,2660 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 81 (II) PCI: 00:1c:1: chip 8086,2662 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 81 (II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,2658 card 1179,ff00 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,2659 card 1179,ff00 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,265a card 1179,ff00 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:3: chip 8086,265b card 1179,ff00 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:7: chip 8086,265c card 1179,ff00 rev 03 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2448 card 0000,0000 rev d3 class 06,04,01 hdr 81 (II) PCI: 00:1e:2: chip 8086,266e card 1179,ff00 rev 03 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:3: chip 8086,266d card 1179,0001 rev 03 class 07,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,2641 card 1179,ff00 rev 03 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,266f card 1179,ff00 rev 03 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,2653 card 1179,ff00 rev 03 class 01,01,8f hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,266a card 1179,ff00 rev 03 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,5462 card 1179,ff06 rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 06:01:0: chip 10ec,8139 card 1179,ff00 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 06:02:0: chip 8086,4220 card 8086,2741 rev 05 class 02,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 06:04:0: chip 104c,8031 card fffc,ffff rev 00 class 06,07,00 hdr 82 (II) PCI: 06:04:2: chip 104c,8032 card 1179,ff00 rev 00 class 0c,00,10 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 06:04:3: chip 104c,8033 card 1179,ff05 rev 00 class 01,80,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 06:04:4: chip 104c,8034 card 1179,ff05 rev 00 class 08,05,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,7), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x000c (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 1 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00003400 - 0x000034ff (0x100) IX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00003800 - 0x000038ff (0x100) IX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00003c00 - 0x00003cff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xb8100000 - 0xb81fffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xc8000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:28:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0004 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 2 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00004000 - 0x000040ff (0x100) IX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00004400 - 0x000044ff (0x100) IX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00004800 - 0x000048ff (0x100) IX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00004c00 - 0x00004cff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xbc000000 - 0xbfffffff (0x4000000) MX[B] (II) Bus 2 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 3: bridge is at (0:28:1), (0,3,3), BCTRL: 0x0004 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 3 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00005000 - 0x000050ff (0x100) IX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00005400 - 0x000054ff (0x100) IX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00005800 - 0x000058ff (0x100) IX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00005c00 - 0x00005cff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Bus 3 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xc3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B] (II) Bus 3 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xd4000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B] (II) Subtractive PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 6: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,6,7), BCTRL: 0x0004 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 6 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00006000 - 0x000060ff (0x100) IX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00006400 - 0x000064ff (0x100) IX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00006800 - 0x000068ff (0x100) IX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00006c00 - 0x00006cff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Bus 6 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xc4000000 - 0xc40fffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) PCI-to-CardBus bridge: (II) Bus 7: bridge is at (6:4:0), (6,7,7), BCTRL: 0x0744 (VGA_EN is cleared) (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc unknown chipset (0x5462) rev 0, Mem @ 0xc8000000/27, 0xb8100000/16, I/O @ 0x3000/8 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xb8000000 from 0xbfffffff to 0xb80fffff (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xc4006400 - 0xc40067ff (0x400) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xc4009000 - 0xc4009fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xc4009400 - 0xc40097ff (0x400) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xc4004000 - 0xc4007fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xc4000000 - 0xc7ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xc4006800 - 0xc4006fff (0x800) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xc4007000 - 0xc4007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xc4006000 - 0xc4007fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xb8000c00 - 0xb8000fff (0x400) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xb8000400 - 0xb80007ff (0x400) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xb8000800 - 0xb8000fff (0x800) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xb8000000 - 0xb80fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E [12] -1 0 0xb8100000 - 0xb810ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xc8000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0x00006000 - 0x000060ff (0x100) IX[B]E [15] -1 0 0x000020a0 - 0x000020bf (0x20) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x000018f0 - 0x000018ff (0x10) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x000018e8 - 0x000018ef (0x8) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x00002080 - 0x000020ff (0x80) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x000018ec - 0x000018ef (0x4) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x00002088 - 0x0000208f (0x8) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018ff (0x80) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000187f (0x40) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x000018ff (0x100) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B](B) (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xc4009000 from 0xc4009fff to 0xc40093ff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xc4004000 from 0xc4007fff to 0xc4005fff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xc4000000 from 0xc7ffffff to 0xc4003fff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xc4006000 from 0xc4007fff to 0xc40063ff (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x000018e8 from 0x000018ef to 0x000018eb (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00002080 from 0x000020ff to 0x00002087 (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x000018c0 from 0x000018ff to 0x000018df (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00002000 from 0x000020ff to 0x0000207f (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xb8000800 from 0xb8000fff to 0xb8000bff (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00001880 from 0x000018ff to 0x000018bf (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xb8000000 from 0xb80fffff to 0xb80003ff (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00001840 from 0x0000187f to 0x0000185f (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00001800 from 0x000018ff to 0x0000181f (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xc4006400 - 0xc40067ff (0x400) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xc4009000 - 0xc40093ff (0x400) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xc4009400 - 0xc40097ff (0x400) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xc4004000 - 0xc4005fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xc4000000 - 0xc4003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xc4006800 - 0xc4006fff (0x800) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xc4007000 - 0xc4007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xc4006000 - 0xc40063ff (0x400) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xb8000c00 - 0xb8000fff (0x400) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xb8000400 - 0xb80007ff (0x400) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xb8000800 - 0xb8000bff (0x400) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xb8000000 - 0xb80003ff (0x400) MX[B]E [12] -1 0 0xb8100000 - 0xb810ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xc8000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0x00006000 - 0x000060ff (0x100) IX[B]E [15] -1 0 0x000020a0 - 0x000020bf (0x20) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x000018f0 - 0x000018ff (0x10) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x000018e8 - 0x000018eb (0x4) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x00002080 - 0x00002087 (0x8) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x000018ec - 0x000018ef (0x4) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x00002088 - 0x0000208f (0x8) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018df (0x20) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x0000207f (0x80) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B](B) (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xc4006400 - 0xc40067ff (0x400) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xc4009000 - 0xc40093ff (0x400) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xc4009400 - 0xc40097ff (0x400) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xc4004000 - 0xc4005fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xc4000000 - 0xc4003fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xc4006800 - 0xc4006fff (0x800) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xc4007000 - 0xc4007fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [12] -1 0 0xc4006000 - 0xc40063ff (0x400) MX[B]E [13] -1 0 0xb8000c00 - 0xb8000fff (0x400) MX[B]E [14] -1 0 0xb8000400 - 0xb80007ff (0x400) MX[B]E [15] -1 0 0xb8000800 - 0xb8000bff (0x400) MX[B]E [16] -1 0 0xb8000000 - 0xb80003ff (0x400) MX[B]E [17] -1 0 0xb8100000 - 0xb810ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) [18] -1 0 0xc8000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [19] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [20] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [21] -1 0 0x00006000 - 0x000060ff (0x100) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x000020a0 - 0x000020bf (0x20) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x000018f0 - 0x000018ff (0x10) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x000018e8 - 0x000018eb (0x4) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00002080 - 0x00002087 (0x8) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x000018ec - 0x000018ef (0x4) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x00002088 - 0x0000208f (0x8) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018df (0x20) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x0000207f (0x80) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [31] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E [32] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [33] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [34] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B]E [35] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [36] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[B]E [37] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B](B) (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.99.903, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.99.903, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.so (II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.99.903, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so (II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project" compiled for 6.8.99.903, module version = 2.1.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "radeon" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.99.903, module version = 4.0.2 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (II) LoadModule: "ati" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.99.903, module version = 6.5.7 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.99.903, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.5 (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.99.903, module version = 1.0.1 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.5 (II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.5.7) for chipsets: ati, ativga (II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets: ATI Rage 128 Mobility M3 LE (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Mobility M3 LF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility M4 MF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility M4 ML (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro GL PA (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro GL PB (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro GL PC (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro GL PD (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Pro GL PE (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro GL PF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PG (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PH (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PI (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PJ (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PK (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PL (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PM (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PN (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PO (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PP (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PQ (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PR (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PS (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PT (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PU (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PV (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PW (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro VR PX (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 GL RE (PCI), ATI Rage 128 GL RF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RG (AGP), ATI Rage 128 VR RK (PCI), ATI Rage 128 VR RL (AGP), ATI Rage 128 4X SE (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 4X SF (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 4X SG (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 4X SH (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 4X SK (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 4X SL (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 4X SM (AGP), ATI Rage 128 4X SN (PCI/AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TL (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TR (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TS (AGP?), ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TT (AGP?), ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TU (AGP?) (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP), ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI), ATI ES1000 515E (PCI), ATI ES1000 5969 (PCI), ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP), ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 M7 LX (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ (AGP), ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) 4136, ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336, ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137, ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337, ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237, ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437, ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP), ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BC (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP), ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835, ATI Radeon 9100 PRO IGP 7834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 IGP 7835, ATI Radeon 9200PRO 5960 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP), ATI FireMV 2200 (PCI), ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP), ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP), ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 NF (AGP), ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP), ATI FireGL RV360 AV (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP), ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M10) NT (AGP), ATI FireGL Mobility T2e (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon 9650, ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X600 (RV380) 3E50 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V3200 (RV380) 3E54 (PCIE), ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (M24) 3150 (PCIE), ATI FireGL M24 GL 3154 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X600 (RV370) 5B62 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V3100 (RV370) 5B64 (PCIE), ATI FireGL D1100 (RV370) 5B65 (PCIE), ATI Radeon Mobility M300 (M22) 5460 (PCIE), ATI FireGL M22 GL 5464 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A42 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A61 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5974 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5000 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 PRO (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 XT (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JH (AGP), ATI Radeon X800PRO (R420) JI (AGP), ATI Radeon X800SE (R420) JJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JK (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JL (AGP), ATI FireGL X3 (R420) JM (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9800 (M18) JN (AGP), ATI Radeon X800XT (R420) JP (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 SE (R420) (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R423) UH (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800PRO (R423) UI (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800LE (R423) UJ (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800SE (R423) UK (PCIE), ATI FireGL V7200 (R423) UQ (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5100 (R423) UR (PCIE), ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) UT (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800XT (R423) 5D57 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) (PCIE), ATI Mobility FireGL V5100 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X800 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X800 XT (M28) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XL (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 SE (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XTP (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 5D4C (PCIE), ATI Radeon FireGL (R480) GL 5D50 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (AGP) (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.X.Org for help. Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 09:20:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282B316A419 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bidjan@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDFE43D48 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:20:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bidjan@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id e30so872117pya for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:20:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iRrbz7JsECm01kCSWiUFDnWsUogje/kKI1FsoXXQs9/GiPg1b4o8SKZASwNB0G1qEHFWkqDWRF9pgcmXcl5bReU6ha3JC5bLo39jUbpYV67C5Sb3WsvJYzUQ6V22ThDB90DNgdBQbU9QzZGEcUXGWUG39/7mFlTKm1Khmc+gvho= Received: by 10.35.105.18 with SMTP id h18mr1087611pym; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.43.16 with HTTP; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 05:20:40 -0400 From: "Pablo Mora" To: axel.burwitz@arcor.de In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4466F1A4.80700@arcor.de> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make for KDE 3.5.2 fails (6.1-Stable) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:20:41 -0000 On 5/14/06, Pablo Mora wrote: > On 5/14/06, Axel Burwitz wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > well something is always going wrong in a upgrdae proces... > > > > > > After I got sucessfully helped over the first hurdle and managed to > > upgrade my FreeBSD system from 6.1-Release to 6.1-Stable, I wanted to g= o > > from KDE 3.4.2 to KDE 3.5.2. > > > > But: the make fails with folowing message: > > > > "konq_popupmenu.cc:797: error: no matching function for call to > > `KDEDesktopMimeType::userDefinedServices(const QString, KSimpleConfig&, > > bool, KURL::List&)' > > /usr/local/include/kmimetype.h:561: note: candidates are: static > > QValueList > > KDEDesktopMimeType::userDefinedServices(const QString&, bool) > > /usr/local/include/kmimetype.h:568: note: static > > QValueList > > KDEDesktopMimeType::userDefinedServices(const QString&, KConfig&, bool) > > gmake[3]: *** [konq_popupmenu.lo] Error 1 > > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2/libkonq' > > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2/libkonq' > > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2= ' > > gmake: *** [all] Error 2" > > > > > > Well, have no idea what to do now.... > > > > Has anybody a hint for me? > > > > read /usr/ports/UPDATE for any entry to KDE. sorry, /usr/ports/UPDATING. read 20060108 entry --=20 Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love Unix ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 10:00:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E31D16A402 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DDD43D46 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:00:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.03/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k4EA0AnY008478 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 03:00:10 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.50] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.03/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k4E9xxpw024273 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 03:00:08 -0700 Message-ID: <4466FFA3.2050906@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 03:00:03 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4466ECCB.1020200@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <4466ECCB.1020200@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Semi-technical discussion of Remote Access (was "Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:00:11 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Garrett Cooper >>> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:12 AM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts >>> Microsoft RDP connections? >>> >>> >>> However, there's also the NoMachine NX server/client protocol to >>> look into, which is hailed as a Unix counterpart for RDP. See >>> for a licensed version and >>> for a GNU opensource version. So if you >>> really want to sell your boss on remote access with FreeBSD, I would >>> look into this solution. >>> >> >> The point was that no matter what he tells his boss, he will get it >> shot down. >> >> But he can certainly try. >> >> Usually what happens with these kinds of discussions is someone >> will post something similar to what our original poster said, everyone >> will replay with lots of well-meaning suggestions, the OP will then >> get lit up and go back to his boss or whoever is being obstructive, >> and get shot down again. And most times we never hear from the OP >> again with a followup. >> >> Ted >> > True... I was just offering a suggestion, just in case. I figured that > if the boss doesn't like Unix (which it seems he probably doesn't) > though-like you said, so he won't support this. > -Garrett I didn't really look into the technical details behind NoMachineNX until now, but if anyone considers writing a plugin for RDP to work with NoMachineNX, they might as well write a separate server daemon for RDP since it would be more fruitful timewise to do that. Considering that the NoMachineNX protocol is so intertwined with X11 and SSH (I stress the later as opposed to the former), the minuses to writing a plugin to allow a Windows RDP client to connect to a plugin enabled NoMachineNX server are that maintaining a connection would require an SSH tunnel to be running with the proper port(s) being forwarded to the server, and that would lead to unnecessary encryption to between the client <-> server since Windows RDP has built in encryption to prevent data from being sent clear-text across a network (whereas straight VNC or non-forwarded-via-SSH X11 does not). Given the fact that an SSH connection would have to be open would eliminate the Windows crowd that "Just Likes Stuff to Work on Command With Minimal Effort", and the solution would be slower and more CPU intensive, which would make such a scheme less feasible in a corporate environment since the move from a Windows to a Unix solution is usually to make things run more stable and have the solution run much longer than it would in a Windows environment. Just a semi-technical discussion of the original topic for anyone else that may consider porting Windows RDP to NoMachineNX to convince others to choose an alternate path, just to save time. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 11:05:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94C116A402; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from fly.ebs.gr (fly.ebs.gr [83.171.239.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2565F43D45; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:05:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from ebs.gr (root@hal.ebs.gr [10.1.1.2]) by fly.ebs.gr (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k4EB54GP070687; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:05:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from [10.1.1.200] (pptp.ebs.gr [10.1.1.200]) by ebs.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k4EB4wvv036740; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:05:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from past@ebs.gr) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.392 [268.5.6/338]); Sun, 14 May 2006 14:04:55 +0300 Message-ID: <44670ED7.7050602@ebs.gr> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:04:55 +0300 From: Panagiotis Astithas Organization: EBS Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd@a1poweruser.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:05:26 -0000 fbsd wrote: > So people them use the packages. But the problem with the > packages is they are not updated every time changes are > made to the port they were created from. Also packages that > have dependants like php4/php5 or mysql4/mysql5 are not being > updated to use the newer versions of those dependants as they come > out. I believe that one solution to the scalability problem of creating and maintaining updated packages, would be to decentralize it more. Each time I submit an update for one of the ports I maintain, I've already build the relevant packages, as a QA measure. There should be no need to wait for the ports cluster to build the official version, instead of using my own, modulo perhaps the higher quality assurance you'd get from Kris's build infrastructure. This is what you usually get in the Windows/Mac/Linux world. Macromedia, for instance, provides their own packages for Flash, naturally. The Eclipse foundation provides binary packages for, say Linux, but Red Hat has chosen to provide its own rpm's from their repo. What if we taught pkg_add to use something like INDEX, instead of a global PACKAGESITE variable, to hold information about each port's remote site? What if this was the secondary site, while the freebsd.org one remained the primary? This way you'd try to get the "official" package first and if you failed to find it, you'd get the maintainer's copy. Many people (myself included) have been doing something similar for GNOME and KDE, by asking portupgrade to try the marcuscom and fruitsalad repositories first. Or how about we don't consume the cluster's capacity for building packages, but just for QA? Why not require me (the maintainer) to send-pr a URL to fetch the package's from and store them in the cluster (or straight to ftp-master)? Of course this would not work for people without the means to host the packages, or for unmaintained ports. We'd still have to use the ports cluster for them. For the security paranoid, add a big fat warning, that the contents of these packages are not verified or endorsed by the project. Maybe even, use two download locations: one for packages built by the cluster and another for packages submitted by the maintainers. IIUC, most Linux distributions have a similar arrangement. Bottom line, since the package building role is becoming unbearable (at least for a timely delivery) for the project, why not let the ones who are already creating packages on their own, share the burden? Regards, Panagiotis P.S.: it hasn't escaped me that using packages created from different systems could present dependency mismatches. But I would argue that this should be the maintainer's concern and moreover, it is something that is deemed acceptable in other systems. Furthermore, one could always use the ports system if he prefers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 11:07:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DBE16A4D9 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreas-ml@wideroe.net) Received: from malibu.wideroe.net (malibu.wideroe.net [193.71.196.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D9943D49 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:07:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas-ml@wideroe.net) Received: from hangloose.wideroe.net (53.80-202-144.nextgentel.com [80.202.144.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by malibu.wideroe.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k4EB7RxF045023 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:07:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas-ml@wideroe.net) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060514130208.0453c8d8@wideroe.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:07:21 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Andreas Wideroe Andersen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=7.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on malibu.wideroe.net Subject: Convert numbered JPG files to movie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:07:32 -0000 Hi, I have a surveillance camera uploading numbered=20 still JPG images to my FreeBSD (4.7 STABLE)=20 server. The number of still images grow really=20 fast and I'm looking for a tool or a script that=20 I can configure through cron (or similare) to=20 automatically once per day add these files to a=20 movie file (Ie. avi file or mpg file in PAL) and delete the JPG files. Does anyone know of a script or a program that I can use for this? Thanks! Andreas --- Norsk Smalfilm AS Andreas Wider=F8e Andersen http://www.smalfilm.no Filmshooting | Com - http://www.filmshooting.com Tel: (+47) 38 17 99 16 Fax: (+47) 38 02 33 84=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 11:17:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5065416A403 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: from mailgate.kv.ukrtel.net (mailgate.kv.ukrtel.net [213.179.244.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C38C43D49 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:17:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.kv.ukrtel.net [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id E5F1B1AF521 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:17:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost.my.domain (unknown [82.207.57.18]) by mailgate.kv.ukrtel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAP12446711C51584A for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:17:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4EBHQAD001943 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:17:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: (from elisej@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4EBHQvG001942 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:17:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: elisej set sender to a@zeos.net using -f Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:17:26 +0300 From: a@zeos.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060514111726.GA639@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r581 (FreeBSD) Subject: mpd4 does not want to work at all X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:17:33 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline I have istalled mpd4 Version 4.0b4 on FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. I have mpd.conf, mpd.link, mpd.secret. When I run a mpd4, the next is printed: Multi-link PPP for FreeBSD, by Archie L. Cobbs. Based on iij-ppp, by Toshiharu OHNO. mpd: pid 1773, version 4.0b4 (root@localhost 13:49 14-May-2006) [ukrtelecom] ppp node is "mpd1773-ukrtelecom" tcpmss node is "mpd1773-mss" [ukrtelecom] using interface ng0 Then there is neither prompt nor responce. Terminal is echoing input and nothing more. Only Control-C works properly. Configuration files is attached but they are not the problem. mpd4 works in the same manner when there is no mpd.conf at all. I am using MPD version 3.18 now with the same configuration files except for one line (set bundle authname - for mpd 3 instead of set auth authname - for mpd 4). But I have problems with PPPoE. Phys layer wants to be opened only if I have used ppp to establish PPPoE before. I didn't know what does it mean and decided to try mpd4. Elisej Babenko --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mpd.conf" # mpd.conf # # Elisej Babenko default: new ukrtelecom dsl set auth authname "kv_babenko@dsl.ukrtel.net" set iface route default --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mpd.links" # mpd.links # # Elisej Babenko dsl: set link type pppoe set pppoe iface rl0 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 11:36:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6564F16A405 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:36:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AD743D48 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:36:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4EBanFm096370; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:36:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k4EBansb096367; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:36:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:36:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Andreas Wideroe Andersen In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060514130208.0453c8d8@wideroe.net> Message-ID: <20060514133614.O96269@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060514130208.0453c8d8@wideroe.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Convert numbered JPG files to movie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:36:55 -0000 > Hi, > I have a surveillance camera uploading numbered still JPG images to my > FreeBSD (4.7 STABLE) server. The number of still images grow really fast and > I'm looking for a tool or a script that I can configure through cron (or > similare) to automatically once per day add these files to a movie file (Ie. > avi file or mpg file in PAL) and delete the JPG files. try netpbm package - ppmtompeg for example and djpeg may be ok > > Does anyone know of a script or a program that I can use for this? > > Thanks! > Andreas > > > --- > Norsk Smalfilm AS > Andreas Wider?e Andersen > http://www.smalfilm.no > > Filmshooting | Com - http://www.filmshooting.com > > Tel: (+47) 38 17 99 16 > Fax: (+47) 38 02 33 84 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 11:38:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD99F16A45F for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FE043D49 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:38:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4EBcY6W096498 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:38:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k4EBcYbx096495 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 13:38:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:38:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060514133732.C96269@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: JAIL setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:38:38 -0000 can anyone point me to howto about configuring jailed subserver? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 11:45:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F1716A401 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3637243D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:45:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883ED5D0D; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:45:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7E2vYun1+1BB; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-160-242-211.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.242.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605575C16; Sun, 14 May 2006 07:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44671864.2020001@mac.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:45:40 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew References: <1147578337.10075.12.camel@LatitudeFC5.network> In-Reply-To: <1147578337.10075.12.camel@LatitudeFC5.network> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VM and jailed processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:45:47 -0000 Andrew wrote: > It's my understanding that if there is more than one instance of a > specific application running, then portions of the code are shared in > memory. I would assume that would apply to dynamically linked > applications as well; i.e. if two different applications are linked > against the same library, the given code exists in only one location in > memory. Is this correct? Yes. The details are more complicated, but the portion of an executable which contains code and does not change can be shared between many processes from only one copy in physical RAM, and likewise for shared libraries loaded by dynamic or runtime linking. > The second portion of my question is, how does this apply to jailed > processes? Looking through the architecture handbook, I did not see any > references to VM, which leads me to believe that the standard rules > apply to jails as well. So, for instance, if I was to provide a hosting > service with numerous instances of Apache running in individual jails, > could I assume that base memory usage (ie idle, not serving requests) > would increase at a roughly linear rate. > The same thing applies to jails, and the static portions of apache/httpd will only appear once in RAM, however, you are going to see roughly linear increase in memory usage depending on the number of children running, because there's anywhere from 1MB to 25MB or so of dynamic memory being used per httpd which is specific to that process, depending on which modules you're using and whether you are loading perl or PHP scripts.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 12:09:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E10F16A405 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A78943D55 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:09:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so602209wra for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 05:09:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=uWx2u2CEi4oaBa2X/TRNY8w9DdxPYR1hvJFOq60vWID1W0IjSd6EaZwmJmAZRJYs23oW6aAvKXuIoiux8aIOWyIYRThIBVkpduxxYS3df29s8ARSOuwpEp0dOCaGXvSh8QiSUl3CUb2aw5QEgXpnpReWIi2uS1GqAb6lNKBtRF0= Received: by 10.54.78.19 with SMTP id a19mr4017272wrb; Sun, 14 May 2006 05:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.117.10 with HTTP; Sun, 14 May 2006 05:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:09:46 +0300 From: "Perttu Laine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: upgrade 5.4 -> 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:09:48 -0000 I'm running production servers with 5.4 now and wondering if this is all I need to do when upgrading to 6.1: 1. change RELENG_5_4 to 6_1 and cvsup sources. 2. make buildworld 3. make buildkernel KERNCONF=3D 4. make installkernel KERNCONF=3D 5. reboot to single user 6. mergemaster -p 7. make installworld 8. mergemaster 9. reboot Or is there something more to take care of in this upgrade? And not even sure yet if I'm going to upgrade to 6.1 or going with 5.5, but still asking before trying... :) --=20 kpn @ IRCnet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 12:30:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BA316A40D for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1FA43D5D for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:30:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IZ900IUS9EGO900@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Ma