From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 25 19:04:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA23348 for current-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23342 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA15628; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:03:19 -0700 (PDT) To: Nate Williams cc: Bruce Evans , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, nate@sri.MT.net Subject: Re: Building inside of /usr/src? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:54:58 MDT." <199606252254.QAA00779@rocky.mt.sri.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:03:19 -0700 Message-ID: <15626.835754599@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > You're removed some *useful* functionality from the obj system that both > Bruce and I both pointed out, and your arguements haven't even begun to > address the *real* issue. Instead, you've hid behind the smoke-screen > of 'this is how it was *supposed* to work'. I disagree. The folks at Well, hang on now. Just because I don't agree with you or Bruce doesn't mean I'm hiding behind any smoke screens - I still have yet to hear a *substantive* argument as to WHY the old behavior should be preserved. What I get instead is "well, if you really *wanted* to stand on your head and wiggle your left foot while whistling ``I can't get no satisfaction'' then you wouldn't be able to now and this is bad." Sorry, I just don't see it as at all useful, with or without asterisks, and to be honest I'm feeling a little annoyed that neither of you lifted a finger to address the problems with the old system but have no compunctions about tying me up in exchange after exchange concerning the new one. I suffered all manner of problems with the old system, complained about it bitterly for *years* and I never heard a single squeak from anyone about how they'd undertake to fix it. Fine, I figure nobody gives a god-damn and take it upon myself to fix it and now suddenly everyone's crawling out of the woodwork with their favorite wacky disaster scenarios.. :-( If someone can convince me that I've broken something *without* using obviously contrived examples (of which we could spin thousands and be locked in discussion until the sun goes dark) then I'm more than amenable to making further changes. Jordan