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Date:      Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:29:30 +1000
From:      jesse reynolds <jesse@va.com.au>
To:        Alex Charalabidis <alex@wnm.net>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: can FreeBSD apply security updates without making world?
Message-ID:  <a0501041eb6edbc1f055d@[10.0.1.52]>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.32.0104012339390.53369-100000@earth.wnm.net>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.32.0104012339390.53369-100000@earth.wnm.net>

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At 23:47 -0500 1/4/2001, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
>On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, jesse reynolds wrote:
>
>>  Hi folx
>>
>>  I'm having trouble working out how to automatically install the
>>  latest security patched versions of server software (eg BIND).
>>
>>  I would have thought there'd be a way of getting the latest port, or
>>  the latest package if it's available, and installing it.
>>
>FreeBSD security advisories include links to replacement packages for the
>insecure components if it's feasible to simply replace them.

Right.

>  > However the problem with ports is that you virtually have to upgrade
>>  your OS to the very latest version in order for the latest port to
>>  actually build. (not always the case, but mostly).
>>
>Rarely the case, actually, though you might need an update package for the
>ports collection itself.

Sadly it's been mostly the case for me. I'll try an update package 
for ports, again, but last time I tried thereafter every port I tried 
to run said "sorry, your version of freebsd is not new enough, please 
install the latest freebsd" - or something to that effect.

>  > what about packages, is the way to go to download a package for the
>>  OS version you're running (eg FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE or 4.1-RELEASE) and
>>  install it over the top of what you've got?
>>
>For packages, you ought to remove the old package before installing the
>new one; for ports, after a successful 'make,' pkg_delete or 'make
>deinstall' the old version before your 'make install.'

okay, does package deletion remove config files as well?

>  > What about existing config files? Will installing new packages over
>>  the top of already installed ports "just work", or will it require
>>  backing up all data/configs and fiddling around with it afterwards?
>>
>Depends how old your previous installation is. If you're forced to upgrade
>from v1.1 to v2.2, of course you have to reckon with config changes. I'd
>back up anyway.
>

yep. rightyho. suck it and see.

So, case in point, i want to upgrade to the latest BIND, I currently 
have FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE on this box, and I believe I installed the 
BIND from the ports collection of that release, it's version 8.1.2. 
However there is no pkg_info for bind on this box... how easy will it 
be to upgrade it do you think?

Cheers

Jesse

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