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Date:      Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:48:33 +0200
From:      Christer Solskogen <solskogen@carebears.mine.nu>
To:        "Conrad J. Sabatier" <conrads@cox.net>
Cc:        freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [Fwd: sound in CURRENT]
Message-ID:  <1093117713.619.2.camel@funshine.carebears.net>
In-Reply-To: <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net>
References:  <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net>

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On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 20:37, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 19:13:13 +0200
> Christer Solskogen <solskogen@carebears.mine.nu> wrote:
> 
> > -----Forwarded Message-----
> > > From: Christer Solskogen <solskogen@carebears.mine.nu>
> > > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: sound in CURRENT
> > > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:26:03 +0200
> > > 
> > > FreeBSD funshine.carebears.net 5.3-BETA1 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA1 #1: Sat
> > > Aug 21 15:51:04 CEST 2004    
> > > root@funshine.carebears.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FUNSHINE  amd64
> > > 
> > > I cant get sound working on my SB Live. 
> > > I have the following in kernel config:
> > > device          sound
> > > device          "snd_emu10k1"
> > > 
> > > It seems like I dont have any sound modules either in /boot/kernel
> > > (yeah, i know the modules are named snd_*)
> > > 
> > > (no need to CC: back to me. I`m subscribed)
> > 
> > Could this only be on amd64?
> 
> There are no sound modules on amd64 yet; sound *must* be compiled into
> the kernel.
> 
> I don't know about the SB Live; I thought it was supposed to be one of
> the better-supported cards.  Apparently not.  <sigh>  And to think I
> was on the verge of buying one recently in hopes of curing my own sound
> problems.
> 
> That being said, all I can add is that sound on amd64 appears to be
> seriously broken, with no fix in sight.  I've tried both the onboard
> sound (nVidia nForce3) and my old es1371 card (which works fine on my
> old i386 Athlon box), and both break down after a certain period of time
> with "pcm0:play:0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead", after which,
> sound is no longer useable until a reboot.
> 
> I've seen other reports from people who can't even get their sound
> chipsets to work at all.  And whoever is currently maintaining the sound
> code has been *awfully* quiet lately.  Feels like a waste of time
> reporting anything.
> 
> Frankly, I'm rather disgusted with FreeBSD's sound support in general. 
> Broken pcm devices, no MIDI; it's pathetic.  I'm really quite close to
> giving up on ever resolving the sound problems under amd64 and just
> installing a Linux distro, which actually, I may just do anyway,
> regardless, since it's highly doubtful we'll ever catch up to Linux on
> the sound front.
> 
> This is really a sad state of affairs, it truly is.  I can remember a
> time with the old Voxware drivers when I could play MIDI files on
> my old AWE 64 with soundfont support and everything, and it sounded
> fantastic.  What do we have now?  Timidity.  Bleah!
> 
> Drastic as it may sound, I would vote in favor of scrapping the current
> sound system altogether and porting the Linux stuff over to FreeBSD. 
> Let's face it; they're light-years ahead of us in the multimedia
> department, and we'll never catch up to them, not with the terrible base
> we're starting from.
> 
> I wanted to scream when Voxware was pulled years ago, but I held my
> peace (not like there was much choice in the matter).  But I never
> expected things would still be in such a shoddy, primitive state this
> many years later.
> 
> Not to mention the recent rash of buildworld/buildkernel breakages
> lately from hurried, poorly tested commits.  Does anyone even bother
> trying to compile their stuff anymore before committing?
> 
> Ah well, just ranting here. Don't mind me. I'm just seriously
> disgruntled.  I've only been using this OS for the last eight years, and
> never would have dreamed I'd reach a point where I'd seriously consider
> abandoning it, but it's starting to look like that time may have come.
> I really can't take much more of this.
> 
> Oh, that reminds me.  Time to pay a visit to FreeBSDMall and cancel my
> subscription.  Not gonna continue shelling out for broken software.
> 

Okay, i really dont want you to tell you this, but i do have to.
I forgot I changed my soundcard, as I dont have the SB Live anymore. I
was using something else. And when adding the RIGHT card into the
kernelconfig it worked.
My bad.

-- 
cso, jerk.

Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself.



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