From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 18 08:12:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5981816A41C; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:12:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C258343D48; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:12:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j6I8Dab66526; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , "Ray Jenson" Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:12:12 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050717231403.GH25747@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:16:39 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, taob@risc.org Subject: RE: Demon license? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:12:14 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Greg 'groggy' >Lehey >Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 4:14 PM >To: Ray Jenson >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; taob@risc.org >Subject: Re: Demon license? > > > >> alongside other logos, such as Tux, the Red Hat logo, and >> Microsoft's Windows logo. We're in the process of testing our >> hardware configurations before offering BSD-powered machines to our >> clients, which should knock a significant amount off the >> price. These logos are not currently displayed, but I can send you a >> mock-up if you need it. > >The daemon is copyright of Kirk McKusick . You >should ask him for permission. In general he gives it if the usage is >BSD-related, as it appears to be in this case. Strictly speaking, the IMAGES of the daemon that are on the mckusick.com website are what is copyrighted. Nothing is stopping someone from drawing a 'devil' image and associating it with FreeBSD. Over the years there have been many representations of the BSD Daemon. Not all are copyrighted by Kirk, for example: http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/shirts/bsdunix.html http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/shirts/usenix.html Both the above are USENIX copyrights - per Kirk. However, to me the most classic "FreeBSD Daemon" image that has ever been done has been the 4.3BSD one: http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/gif/bsd4_3.gif That one, and similar variants, I think also are the most recognizable one as the "FreeBSD one". And that one and the variants are copyrighted by Kirk. Ted