From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 26 22:52:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74C1106566C; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from relay0.exonetric.net (relay0.exonetric.net [82.138.248.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B3D8FC16; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.29] (unknown [78.86.207.85]) by relay0.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5068957007; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:52:45 +0000 (GMT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Blackman In-Reply-To: <20120126224921.GA26109@lonesome.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:52:44 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201201260937.47448.jhb@freebsd.org> <6D5F6ECE-5966-4849-AFDC-7F385E2CE906@exonetric.com> <201201261322.29688.jhb@freebsd.org> <20120126224921.GA26109@lonesome.com> To: Mark Linimon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Adrian Chadd , Mark Saad , John Baldwin Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:52:50 -0000 On 26 Jan 2012, at 22:49, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:23:43PM +0000, Mark Blackman wrote: >> = http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-proc.ht= ml >>=20 >> "New releases of FreeBSD are released from the -STABLE branch at >> approximately four month intervals." >=20 > That was our intention at one point. Obviously we've not stuck to = that. > (IMHO doing releases quite that frequently is probably beyond what we = can > do with volunteer staffing, but I'm not on re@ so take it as you = will.) >=20 > In any case, various people within the project have now absorbed the > lesson that "10 months between releases is too long", and are trying = to > figure out what to do about it. Indeed, I was just reviewing the last couple of years of release and the = thing that struck me was the number of BETAs and RCs for each point release. I suspect poor old RE is putting too much work into BETAs and RCs for point releases.=20 - Mark=