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Date:      Fri, 01 Mar 2002 14:48:01 -0800
From:      Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com>
To:        Chris Landauer <cal@rushe.aero.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: thanx for dual boot help, problem not yet solved
Message-ID:  <3C800521.7090000@owt.com>
References:  <200203012210.g21MAwX15686@rushe.aero.org>

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Chris Landauer wrote:

> hihi -
> 
> thanx to all (especially kent) for your quick responses about dual booting -
> 
> and yes, i know, rtfm (and i did) - i started by assuming that the problem was
> on the w2k pro side, and was looking for successful experiences with
> dual-booting freebsd and w2k pro from different disks, since i did all the
> proper things on the freebsd 4.5 install side (i've been installing dual boot
> systems since freebsd 2.1.5 or 2.2.8 or something like that, and with windows
> 95, 98 and windows me, beos and several versions of suse and red hat linux
> distributions - this was the first one i tried with w2k pro)
> 
> the first problem was that none of the dos programs that come with the 4.5 cds
> would run on this windows system (includign fbsdboot.exe and all the others) -
> when i try to run them, the system complains about the program accessing the
> hard drive directly, and apparently the programs are not actually able to do
> so - so i couldn't rearrange the partitions the way i wanted to under windows
> (even with a dos boot disk) - that is why i separated the two disks, one for
> windows and one for freebsd - i wrote a new partition table on the freebsd
> disk (from the install program), and installed freebsd 4.5 with lotsa packages
> (as i usually do)


Are you aware that many DOS programs have a 2 GB limit. With lba, that 
may go to 8.4 GB but the access of large HDs, which is anything above 
2 GB, requires some additional parameters to be passed and the DOS 
libraries did not support that in the past.

I am writing a kern.flp to my 3.5" a-drive as I write this on my W2K 
Server. So, something else is going on. I have fdimage in my \pub 
directory and obtained the image from my cdrom\floppies. The report by 
fdimage shows

J:\floppies>fdimage -v kern.flp a:
Insert new diskette for drive A:
and press ENTER when ready

Formatting: cyl 79  hd 1
Writing: cyl 79  hd 1
Done


> 
> the original problem was that the freebsd install worked in the usual and
> expected way, but apparently did not write the appropriate boot information
> onto the disks (this is why i thought the problem was with windows)


There were other boot programs that you should be able to add. The 
only reason I suggested ntldr was because your system was already 
running it and I don't believe in breaking a working system.


> 
> after your messages, i looked, but i couldn't find anything about boot.ini in
> the freebsd handbook (i hadn't remembered that name from anything i read
> before in the handbook, and the search process doesn't seem to find that file
> name in the top 30 or 40 pages of search results from the freebsd site), so
> knowing about that name will be helpful for later


I would suspect the search because I know I have written a large 
number of emails on dual booting NT/W2K and FreeBSD.

Everyone that has used NT from the early days was told about boot.ini 
being on your active partition. It was not until XP that you could 
edit the file from the system applet. Before that you had to use a 
command prompt window and un-attrib the file, modify it, and re-attrib 
the file. If you use an editor that will insert <tab>s, you destroy 
the boot.ini and have to use the recovery console to rebuild it.


> 
> actually, i just checked and there doesn't seem to be any boot.ini file on my
> windows machine either, according to the search function - in any case, i
> always make all of my hidden files visible by default, but i didn't see an
> option not to search for hidden files, so i assume that if the file were
> there, then the windows search would have found it (the system is windows 2000
> professional, which is apparently some kind of nt-based system, even though it
> says that it has fat32 file systems on the disks, as i had requested from the
> manufacturer, dell) - i will start by assuming that there is some default
> behavior in case such a file is not there, and that putting one there will
> supersede that default
> 
> it sounds like its windows homework time 8-(


The boot.ini has always been required by ntldr.


> 
> well, if it turns out to be too hard or too annoying, i know i can just junk
> w2k entirely, and install one of my old w98 systems - the only reason i don't
> have w98 on this machine already as it came from dell is that there is 1GB of
> main memory and i was told that w98 can't use more than 512MB - oh, well
> 
> more later,
> cal

-- 
Kent Stewart
Richland, WA

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